I don't see the Pats giving up what it going to take to get him. They like building through tue draft and picking up scraps.

Here's hoping.

Dude, I've said this since October that New England is the most logical landing spot for Fitz because they have two firsts, two seconds, two thirds and two fourths.

They could give up four picks and still have their first four picks.

I think fitz has a opt out clause in his contract so he would be a free agent.

But they're a good team, they know how to build a good team, and they aren't ****ing reeruned like we are so they won't...

dude a Larry Fitzgerald trade is a no risk trade...

he is the ultimate team player with loads and loads of talent

he is made for new england, unfortunately

NE buys low and sells high.

Randy Moss, for example.

They milked that man for all he was worth and knew once he hit worthless.

And still got some for him...

Randy Moss was a known team cancer...

Fitzgerald is not...

he's the ultimate Patriot in their eyes...I guarantee it...

they bought Welker for a 2nd and a 7th before Welker was Welker...

if they want Fitzgerald they'll pay for him...I know that for sure

BECAUSE THEY ****ING BUY LOW AND SELL HIGH.

People who want crack bad enough will sell their kids for it.

NE won't.

It's not that he wouldn't be perfect, it's not that he wouldn't love to go there, it's that THEY DON'T NEED HIM as much as any other team.

So, other teams will be willing to pay/trade more.

if Fitzgerald finds his way on the trade market...

I would bet the farm New England would end up with him...

he's a perfect fit for that organization and they have more available assets than any NFL team

Fitzgerald is one of VERY FEW NFL players I'd give 2+ 1st round picks for...

New England could trade a 1, 1 and 3 for Fitz and their fan base would be ecstatic and their team would be exponentially better...

Fitz and Brady?

Fitz the ultimate route runner and team player on a Belichick team?

Frankly, that's downright FRIGHTENING...and I pray to God that doesn't happen.

I'd rather have my favorite football player (Fitzy) on the Broncos or Raiders than on the Patriots.

I think trading for a Fitz is pretty unnecessary for the Patriots and a move I can't see them making.

They value their draft picks above all else. They have a passing offense that is lights out right now with Welker, Branch and Tate. They went back to the Patriots heyday where you have a bunch of multi-dimensional receivers that individually don't overwhelm you, but collectively they are unstoppable.

I'd give a #1 and a #4 for Fitz and never think twice about it again. This offense needs someone to take the heat off Bowe and with Fitz's Haley connections, his relationship with Bowe and his work ethic, it's a natural fit.

The real Jamaal Charles numbers

Posted by Mike Florio on December 14, 2010, 11:14 AM EST
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As we predicted on Sunday, the contract given by the Chiefs to running back Jamaal Charles wasn’t as good as initially advertised.

We were confident in making the prediction because no contract ever ends up being as good as initially advertised.

Per a league source, the reported guarantee of $13 million is actually $8 million, in the form of a roster bonus paid upon (or not long after) execution of the deal. There’s another $2 million in injury guarantees only.

Also, the reported value of $32.5 million over five years (an average of $6.5 million) is the maximum package, with all incentives reached. The base package has an annual value closer to $5.5 million.

Though the drop isn’t as dramatic as the gap between the initial ESPN report and the subsequent ESPN report regarding Donovan McNabb’s deal with the Redskins, we hope that those of us who report the initial numbers eventually will acknowledge the fact that there’s a disconnect between those numbers and the real numbers.

Dammit Carl!!!!!!! :cuss: :cuss:

Wait Wut ..............

I believe, though I might well be wrong, that his contract goes through 2012, and that opt out is after the '11 season.

LMAO some of you are still talking about Fitz playing in KC with Cassel? LMAO

the opt out for Fitz and the Cards is AFTER the '11 season.

So if you Chiefs fans want him bad enough for next season and can't wait another year, Pioli would have to sell farm for him most likely on draft day to have a chance at him a year earlier than when he can actually opt out.

Fitz has a no-trade clause.

Which he can waive if he so chooses.

And he would...to go to a SB contender with a top-tier QB who will allow him to regain the level of play he had when Kurt was throwing to him. Or so says the local talk radio here.

So you have some radio taking head speculating what it might take to get Fitz to waive.

There's been speculation that he would like to play for Haley, and whether you recognize it or not, the Chiefs are on the upswing.

I think the best chance for the Chiefs to get him would be to trade for him before he can opt to walk on the open market. If he walks after the '11 season then yes there will be much better teams after his services that the Chiefs would need to compete with.

And the Patriots are not afraid to throw money around, just because the MO of the Patriots Way is to buy low and sell high, doesn't mean they havent given 30 year old guys like Corey Dillion and Adalius Thomas 30 million contracts without thinking twice. The Pats have done it, they just dont do it often thats all.

Cassel.

What don't you understand about a no-trade clause?

Or to play for the coach he said he'd go to Canada to play for?

Whatever you like to think. Certainly stranger things have happened, and Fitz is a very inward-looking dude (seriously).

He probably had a lot of time to think back when he was traveling the world with Jared Allen and Boomer Grigsby.

I took out the non-SB contender part because who knows what will happen in the next 2 years?
LMAO at the world-traveling comment.

You can read his direct quotes straight from the horses mouth.

In case you missed it, Fitz seems to think that Cassel is a good QB, and his performance against the Cards did nothing to alter Fitz's thinking there.

You've convinced me Milk, I'm sold. Fitz to KC.

LMAO Okay that was funny.

I'm not selling anything.

I'm just pointing out that speculation is just that.

Larry Fitzgerald is the only one who really knows what Larry Fitzgerald is thinking.

100% agreed. Only reason I even stick my nose in is because I hear a lot of talk about Fitz in a non-Chiefs capacity. What you say is true though, you don't hear much of that talk from Fitz.

What was funny? There's nothing that forces Larry Fitzgerald to gush about Todd Haley the way he does.

If the Chiefs meet the Cardinals asking price, I highly doubt Fitzgerald is going to block such a move.

Oh, I thought you were referring to me when you said "horse". I thought that was a pretty good one.

As to your belief that Fitz gushes man love about Haley to the point where he would want to come to a non-contender with a limp QB certainly you are entitled to your opinion.

So it's not your opinion the Chiefs are an ascending team with an improving QB?

If he's a limp QB, wouldn't someone like Fitz, who is a master at intermediate route running be a perfect fit?

And he's going to excerise that when the Cards come to him and say, "Hey, Larry - we've got an offer from the Chiefs, but if you don't want to go there, you can stay here and catch passes from John Skelton and help us win 4 games next year."

LMAO

My opinion is that Fitz has X amount of years left in his career and if a team like the Patriots comes calling he is more likely to go that route.
My opinion is formed in part by what I hear/read in the local market where Fitz currently plays that says Fitz has had his fill of limp QBs and wants to get back to what he had with Kurt. By no means do I think any of what I say is fact, it is only my opinion.

If Fitz opens up to trades there will be a hell of a lot more teams than KC come calling. Been around for long?

And I'm of the opinion that the Patriots won't try to sign a huge money WR when they've gone back to a model that won them 3 titles with lesser WRs that fit their system.

Yeah, they have tons of picks to work with. They also need to replace some old lineman, get a dynamic RB, find a pass rusher to put at OLB and add cornerback depth.

All of those issues have to come way way before even thinking about trading for Fitzgerald.

Sorry, I was only using the Patriots as an example. I should have said 'a current (not up and coming) SB contender with a top-tier QB". Pittsburgh, Philly, NE, etc.

We have differing opinions, neither of us will know shit until Fitz is a FA or until someone trades for him.

Bank on this next season.

Don't Crucify me, I'm a little rusty.
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...9/Fitz11KC.jpg

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My photoshop skills are rusty. That is a Chiefs Uni he's wearing.

he must have purchased it from one of those Chinese ripoff sites

i like it...


even if those other pricks don't

Oh, got it. Thanks. All I could see was the red x.
We'll see. Certainly stranger things have happened than a ProBowl WR choosing to go to a non-SB contender with a noodle-armed QB.

Oh snap.

It looks like we are going to be seeing a bitter side of vailpass, now that the Broncos are totally in the shitter.

Howdy Ed, how's your holiday seson so far?

I'm not bitter at all regarding Fitzgerald, just a little amused.

I know for a fact that Fitzgerald doesn't see Cassel as a noodle arm or as KC as a team that's not on the rise.

I think what you're doing is underestimating the immense amount of praise that Fitz has for Haley as a coach. I know people who know Fitz and they all say that it's just not media speak, that he actually considers Haley to be the most influential coach he's ever had.

Look, if the money is right, we could pick up Fitz easily. He'd like to work with Haley, has a rapport with Bowe, and I'm sure he'd be fine with Cassel. If it can be done, I'm sure it will be.

You know that for a fact huh? When's the last time you spoke with Fitz? Don't you think you are going a little overboard here?

well at least we're not the talentless Broncos led by Tim Tebow

Good one Hootie.

I'm the rubber and your the glue
It bounces off me and sticks to you!!!

TIM TIM TEBOW

have fun with your 10 wins in the next 3 years...

it's really fun, I know from experience

Yes, for a fact. I haven't talked to Fitz directly, but I'm pretty close to people who have and I have no reason to believe they would lie to me about things I never even asked them to inquire about.

LMAO

I really don't have dick to prove to you so you can chose to believe what you want. Your BS assertions that Fitz wouldn't play for a) a QB like Cassel because of a "noodle arm" even though Fitz isn't a deep threat, and B) this Chiefs team would not be a contender with Fitz are really the only laughable statements in this thread.