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R8RFAN 03-19-2011 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 7500807)
30%? Ba-hahahaha, you can do better than that.

http://www.whatsalltheracquet.com/ar...aine-thumb.jpg

If that man can show me those places I will stfu and admit he was smarter than I am .....

Bernie Madoff didn't even guarantee that much :spock:

luv 03-19-2011 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7500775)
Weren't you the same guy who swore you payed off all your credit cards ever month and then posted that you had a previous balance of 2500 from the last month?

For every excuse you justify yourself carrying debt I am going to tell you why you are wrong just as you try to tell me I am wrong on most of my views....

The guys who admit they are in debt and want out are the ones I am trying to help here, the trolls the wall street tycoons you can't say anything to anyway....

Instead of the whining and complaining, why don't people just avoid the thread?

It's paid, not payed. I guess you make up for in financial prowess what you lack in grammar skills?
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R8RFAN 03-19-2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 7500983)
It's paid, not payed. I guess you make up for in financial prowess what you lack in grammar skills?
Posted via Mobile Device

Thanks Luv...

luv 03-19-2011 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7500992)
Thanks Luv...

I do have to treat you like a troll from time to time. Plus, no one back talks DaFace. :p
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R8RFAN 03-19-2011 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 7501024)
I do have to treat you like a troll from time to time. Plus, no one back talks DaFace. :p
Posted via Mobile Device

I don't disrespect the kid as a mod, he does a good job, but I will not kiss his ass or anybody else's if I think they are wrong on other subjects.


I know I made a grammar error there somewhere so find it for me and fix it.:thumb:

mikeyis4dcats. 03-19-2011 01:53 PM

audiophile?

hmmm...word filter...that explains.

T-post Tom 03-19-2011 05:28 PM

I'm so broke I had to sell my cockroaches.

007 03-19-2011 05:29 PM

I do everything on my credit card for the points and I pay my balance in full every single month. The B word isn't even in my vocabulary because it will never happen barring some extremely bad medical condition.

RaiderH8r 03-19-2011 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7500673)
You are a dreamer, you are no where near smart enough to got a 30% ROI on anything and if it were easy enough for someone of your financial intelligence to do so, everybody in the country would be doing the same thing...

Dream in one hand son and crap in the other and lets see which one gets full first.

P.S Point me to that bank paying 10% on a Money Market account

So that's the source of your cult like devotion to your philosophy; you can't do it so there must be no way to get it done. It makes perfect sense and my money market is pulling double digits routinely. Do your own f'ing homework you financial whiz.

RaiderH8r 03-19-2011 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7500841)
If that man can show me those places I will stfu and admit he was smarter than I am .....

Bernie Madoff didn't even guarantee that much :spock:

I was clear slapnuts, "over the life of the loan". How long are typical student loans shithead? Again, do your own f'ing legwork. I wasn't guaranteeing 30% annual ROI you illiterate hack. You're suggesting slaying the hog to pay the bank today and I'm telling you to fatten the f'er and get paid a more later.

kstater 03-19-2011 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 7499695)
The thread is fine. You being an asshole and calling someone a audiophile, rapist, mother and sister ****er is a bit past the line of human decency and civility.

But you are an idiot Raiders fan compounded by being a dumbass UNC fan.

You've been banned before, I sense another ban hammer in your future.

A post you made referencing me 6 months ago:


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Originally Posted by Ari
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you, Mr. Kstater are a audiophile and pay toothless prostitutes to give you coffee enemas.


KurtCobain 03-19-2011 06:47 PM

I'm so broke I couldn't afford to **** my sister, she's a high dollar ho.

SPchief 03-19-2011 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 7501999)
I'm so broke I couldn't afford to **** my sister, she's a high dollar ho.

You could probably afford R8ers' wife though

WebGem 03-19-2011 06:51 PM

Thread of the year

DaFace 03-19-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 7502005)
You could probably afford R8ers' wife though

Or daughter.

(I keed, I keed. Please don't call me a pedo or I might leave forever.)

KurtCobain 03-19-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 7502005)
You could probably afford R8ers' wife though

I did find a coupon in the thrifty nickel...

KurtCobain 03-19-2011 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7502012)
Or daughter.

I think this comment just pushed me over the edge. This is bullshit modding at it's worst. Not only am I not leaving forever, but I'm also filing a lawsuit.

kstater 03-19-2011 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 7502018)
I think this comment just pushed me over the edge.

You should probably grab a shotgun then.

KurtCobain 03-19-2011 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7502020)
You should probably grab a shotgun then.

I'm too broke to afford the shells.

SPchief 03-19-2011 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7502012)
Or daughter.

(I keed, I keed. Please don't call me a pedo or I might leave forever.)

I didn't think he could afford the daughter because of her porn background

Saul Good 03-19-2011 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiderH8r (Post 7501943)
So that's the source of your cult like devotion to your philosophy; you can't do it so there must be no way to get it done. It makes perfect sense and my money market is pulling double digits routinely. Do your own f'ing homework you financial whiz.

No offense, but I will bet my life that you aren't, and have never, made double digit returns from a money market. Here's betting that you are confusing a money market account with a mutual fund.

The highest interest rate currently being paid in the country (as far as I can find) is 1.1%, and it's by a pretty shady firm.

http://www.moolanomy.com/1333/how-to...duct=33&sort=2

The average money market rate in the US today is 0.29%. If you are getting 2%, let me know where, and I'll film you making pornographic videos with R8ers's underage daughter.

patteeu 03-20-2011 12:59 AM

Wow, there appears to be a lot of jealousy of the guy who has no debt in this thread.

Slainte 03-20-2011 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7503124)
Wow, there appears to be a lot of jealousy of the guy who has no debt in this thread.

exactly.

Bugeater 03-20-2011 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7503124)
Wow, there appears to be a lot of jealousy of the guy who has no debt in this thread.

No, it's more about people being annoyed by him constantly patting himself on the back for it. I could give a **** less about anyone's financial situation around here, and I don't expect anyone to give a **** about mine.

KurtCobain 03-20-2011 01:37 AM

I'm so broke I'm charging the mice rent.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-20-2011 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7503124)
Wow, there appears to be a lot of jealousy of the guy who has no debt in this thread.

Nah. Just tired of his 1543rd post on the subject. It's cool for me though. I've harvested his personal information and have 7 credit cards coming to me in his name. Party, bitches!!!

Frazod 03-20-2011 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7503124)
Wow, there appears to be a lot of jealousy of the guy who has no debt in this thread.

Are you ****ing kidding me?

I've heard that you're a lawyer. You must be a criminal defense lawyer, because defending scumbags and overlooking the shitty things they do seems to come naturally to you. Or perhaps it's his mindless extremism that appeals to you.

Is getting out of/reducing debt a good thing? Of course. It's not the message - it's the messenger. If some asshole calls me 10 times a day saying "DID YOU BRUSH YOUR TEETH? YOU SUCK IF YOU DON'T BRUSH YOUR TEETH! YOU RAPE LITTLE GIRLS IF YOU DON'T BRUSH YOUR TEETH!" my thinking he's an annoying idiot won't have anything to do with brushing my teeth.

R8RFAN 03-20-2011 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7503360)
Are you ****ing kidding me?

I've heard that you're a lawyer. You must be a criminal defense lawyer, because defending scumbags and overlooking the shitty things they do seems to come naturally to you. Or perhaps it's his mindless extremism that appeals to you.

Is getting out of/reducing debt a good thing? Of course. It's not the message - it's the messenger. If some asshole calls me 10 times a day saying "DID YOU BRUSH YOUR TEETH? YOU SUCK IF YOU DON'T BRUSH YOUR TEETH! YOU RAPE LITTLE GIRLS IF YOU DON'T BRUSH YOUR TEETH!" my thinking he's an annoying idiot won't have anything to do with brushing my teeth.

Wow what a child...

Hows my little fat girlfriend at your house doing this morning?

Al Bundy 03-20-2011 07:30 AM

R8ers is nothing less than annoying. I describe him as a skidmark on the underwear of life.

Frazod 03-20-2011 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7503370)
Wow what a child...

Hows my little fat girlfriend at your house doing this morning?

This statement pretty much speaks for itself.

Keep digging, delivery boy.

luv 03-20-2011 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 7503212)
I'm so broke I'm charging the mice rent.

I was waiting for statements like this. I couldn't think of anything creative.

I'm so broke.......

HonestChieffan 03-20-2011 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 7503394)
I was waiting for statements like this. I couldn't think of anything creative.

I'm so broke.......

Too broke to pay attention

ShortRoundChief 03-20-2011 08:31 AM

Full time college student. Single father of 2 children at home. Exwife who had the financial responsibility of our government.

I win.
Even though I don't.

Mr. Plow 03-20-2011 08:47 AM

Shit. I forgot to brush my teeth this morning.

GloryDayz 03-20-2011 08:58 AM

If the Mayans are right, who F'n cares? Run that debt up!!

loochy 03-20-2011 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 7501296)
audiophile?

hmmm...word filter...that explains.

Lol this. After yesterday's goings on, I was puzzled to why it was so bad to be an audiophile. I even went to urban dictionary to make sure I wasn't missing something. :doh!:

patteeu 03-20-2011 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7503360)
Are you ****ing kidding me?

I've heard that you're a lawyer. You must be a criminal defense lawyer, because defending scumbags and overlooking the shitty things they do seems to come naturally to you. Or perhaps it's his mindless extremism that appeals to you.

Is getting out of/reducing debt a good thing? Of course. It's not the message - it's the messenger. If some asshole calls me 10 times a day saying "DID YOU BRUSH YOUR TEETH? YOU SUCK IF YOU DON'T BRUSH YOUR TEETH! YOU RAPE LITTLE GIRLS IF YOU DON'T BRUSH YOUR TEETH!" my thinking he's an annoying idiot won't have anything to do with brushing my teeth.

First of all, you heard wrong.

Second, I know the secret to avoiding the kind of irritation that you describe, but it takes a bit of self awareness and self control. For example, when R8ers started this thread, I read the first dozen or so posts and decided (a) I wasn't interested in answering his question and (b) I wasn't very interested in hearing a discussion of the pros and cons of debt free living. I left the thread and didn't come back until it was necessary to see why Dane left.

It seems like a massive over-reaction to some run-of-the-mill name calling to me. I can only assume that you turned on your ex-friend R8ers, after he gently encouraged you to stay out of it, out of a strange need to stay on Dane's good side, groupie-style.

Al Bundy 03-20-2011 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7503584)
First of all, you heard wrong.

Second, I know the secret to avoiding the kind of irritation that you describe, but it takes a bit of self awareness and self control. For example, when R8ers started this thread, I read the first dozen or so posts and decided (a) I wasn't interested in answering his question and (b) I wasn't very interested in hearing a discussion of the pros and cons of debt free living. I left the thread and didn't come back until it was necessary to see why Dane left.

It seems like a massive over-reaction to some run-of-the-mill name calling to me. I can only assume that you turned on your ex-friend R8ers, after he gently encouraged you to stay out of it, out of a strange need to stay on Dane's good side, groupie-style.

Or because R8ers was stepping outside the normal lines of basic insults?

patteeu 03-20-2011 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight (Post 7503594)
Or because R8ers was stepping outside the normal lines of basic insults?

No, my investigation conclusively ruled that out. There are numerous instances of insincere accusations of child molestation in ChiefsPlanet history. It's a standard arrow in the ChiefsPlanet verbal abuse quiver.

Slainte 03-20-2011 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight (Post 7503594)
Or because R8ers was stepping outside the normal lines of basic insults?

Do you mean the normal lines of basic insults on this board?

Al Bundy 03-20-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7503600)
No, my investigation conclusively ruled that out. There are numerous instances of insincere accusations of child molestation in ChiefsPlanet history. It's a standard arrow in the ChiefsPlanet verbal abuse quiver.

I guess I need to look around more.

RaiderH8r 03-20-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7502506)
No offense, but I will bet my life that you aren't, and have never, made double digit returns from a money market. Here's betting that you are confusing a money market account with a mutual fund.

The highest interest rate currently being paid in the country (as far as I can find) is 1.1%, and it's by a pretty shady firm.

http://www.moolanomy.com/1333/how-to...duct=33&sort=2

The average money market rate in the US today is 0.29%. If you are getting 2%, let me know where, and I'll film you making pornographic videos with R8ers's underage daughter.

You're right, I did confuse the two. I'm referring to mutual fund/commodities/stock type investments.

Frazod 03-20-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7503584)
First of all, you heard wrong.

Second, I know the secret to avoiding the kind of irritation that you describe, but it takes a bit of self awareness and self control. For example, when R8ers started this thread, I read the first dozen or so posts and decided (a) I wasn't interested in answering his question and (b) I wasn't very interested in hearing a discussion of the pros and cons of debt free living. I left the thread and didn't come back until it was necessary to see why Dane left.

It seems like a massive over-reaction to some run-of-the-mill name calling to me. I can only assume that you turned on your ex-friend R8ers, after he gently encouraged you to stay out of it, out of a strange need to stay on Dane's good side, groupie-style.

Um, Dane has never needed me or anybody else to fight his battles. The times I mentioned him were generally to point out the idiocy of a some noxious hick truck driver attempting to tell someone who is very wealthy how to manage his money. As for R8ers, I just got sick of his debt crusade shilling. He's been on this kick for a while now, it's way past old, and this wasn't the first time I suggested he give it a rest. He then got all chippy with me and proceeded to lie about what I said. The guy's a giant douche, and that has nothing to do with Dane or me.

patteeu 03-20-2011 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7503776)
Um, Dane has never needed me or anybody else to fight his battles. The times I mentioned him were generally to point out the idiocy of a some noxious hick truck driver attempting to tell someone who is very wealthy how to manage his money. As for R8ers, I just got sick of his debt crusade shilling. He's been on this kick for a while now, it's way past old, and this wasn't the first time I suggested he give it a rest. He then got all chippy with me and proceeded to lie about what I said. The guy's a giant douche, and that has nothing to do with Dane or me.

Oh, I didn't mean to suggest that Dane needed you. I meant to suggest that you were acting like the message board equivalent of a starfucker, kissing up to the board pseuedo-celebrity. Maybe I just misinterpreted your posts, but it sure seemed like you went from being a fan of R8ers to being one of his harshest critics overnight when Dane took offense.

stevieray 03-20-2011 11:34 AM

I've been a broke dick dog since last July.


doesn't define me in any way, shape or form.

shit happens. I'm still treading water, but I'm not drowning. I can see the lifeboat in the distance.

Frazod 03-20-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7503808)
Oh, I didn't mean to suggest that Dane needed you. I meant to suggest that you were acting like the message board equivalent of a starfucker, kissing up to the board pseuedo-celebrity. Maybe I just misinterpreted your posts, but it sure seemed like you went from being a fan of R8ers to being one of his harshest critics overnight when Dane took offense.

Oh kiss my ass. Star****er? I found Dane's inside information to be interesting. It's not like I was sending him PMs asking to go across the street and get me Michelle Forbes' autograph. :rolleyes: R8ers' idiotic attempt to label The Bad Guy as a wife beater was just as stupid. Do you think that means I have a candlelit shrine to him in closet?

I've said over and over why I tired of this clown's crap. Do I need to use smaller words so you can figure it out?

R8RFAN 03-20-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7503823)
Oh kiss my ass. Star****er? I found Dane's inside information to be interesting. It's not like I was sending him PMs asking to go across the street and get me Michelle Forbes' autograph. :rolleyes: R8ers' idiotic attempt to label The Bad Guy as a wife beater was just as stupid. Do you think that means I have a candlelit shrine to him in closet?

I've said over and over why I tired of this clown's crap. Do I need to use smaller words so you can figure it out?

I never said the man was a wife beater, I asked him if he was because he has a hot head, .... very similar to you...

No accusations girly man just questions

P.S. How do you get your fat ego in that little ford focus you drive?

Slainte 03-20-2011 11:55 AM

Have an eight-ball instead!

:drool:

Slainte 03-20-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 7502018)
This message has been deleted by Kurt Cobain.

http://207.199.174.56/img/wpfZFOyVdf...id-there-4.jpg

KurtCobain 03-20-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Slainte (Post 7503856)

ssshhhh, I'm trying to be a mod for a day. No bad rep.

boogblaster 03-20-2011 12:04 PM

Still hangin' .. kids grown but havin' troubles .. they usually get my extra monies sumhow .. grind on people .....

Frazod 03-20-2011 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7503835)
I never said the man was a wife beater, I asked him if he was because he has a hot head, .... very similar to you...

No accusations girly man just questions

P.S. How do you get your fat ego in that little ford focus you drive?

I don't know. How'd you get your sister to marry you?

R8RFAN 03-20-2011 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7503869)
I don't know. How'd you get your sister to marry you?

Good comeback.... You win Champ :thumb:

Slainte 03-20-2011 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 7503861)
ssshhhh, I'm trying to be a mod for a day. No bad rep.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tvsquad.c...eboyfriend.jpg

And you wanted to be my mod?!?

Mosbonian 03-20-2011 12:15 PM

Anyone posting copies of any personal financial information on here to satisfy R8ers fascination with being debt-free should be banned for being just plain stupid.

R8RFAN 03-20-2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dsnyfn (Post 7503897)
Anyone posting copies of any personal financial information on here to satisfy R8ers fascination with being debt-free should be banned for being just plain stupid.

How do you know I am debt free? I could be lying with 60k dollars worth of credit card debt and an underwater mortgage.

Mosbonian 03-20-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7503910)
How do you know I am debt free? I could be lying with 60k dollars worth of credit card debt and an underwater mortgage.

I actually stated such a scenario before with you.....I'd be willing to be that some of the people who say they are debt-free are not in actuality. But who cares?

Each person lives their life to the best of their capabilities....some have circumstances they cannot avoid which do not allow them to be debt-free. (You disagreed with me on this in another thread)

If you are debt-free, congratulations I am happy for you. But to exhibit an almost "prick-like" attitude towards others who are not serves no purpose. Berating people and then resorting to a campaign of slurs only makes you look less the man.

R8RFAN 03-20-2011 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dsnyfn (Post 7503930)
I actually stated such a scenario before with you.....I'd be willing to be that some of the people who say they are debt-free are not in actuality. But who cares?

Each person lives their life to the best of their capabilities....some have circumstances they cannot avoid which do not allow them to be debt-free. (You disagreed with me on this in another thread)

If you are debt-free, congratulations I am happy for you. But to exhibit an almost "prick-like" attitude towards others who are not serves no purpose. Berating people and then resorting to a campaign of slurs only makes you look less the man.

If I could change the thread title to, "I am not debt free but if I were I would do it like this" would that attract slurs?

Mr. Flopnuts 03-20-2011 12:52 PM

I'm ****ing tapped. Being an audiophile, I spent all my money on sweet new "equipment".

Jack 03-21-2011 12:04 PM

Ages and ages hence, anthropologist' will read threads such as this and label present times the kindergarten of man's evolution. . .

Then ages and ages hence of that conclusion, it will be determined it was incorrect to place mankind that far ahead.

Bowser 03-21-2011 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7503910)
How do you know I am debt free? I could be lying with 60k dollars worth of credit card debt and an underwater mortgage.

It's amzing to me that you would even let the thought that someone around here would give the tiniest shit enter your brain.

Or not.

Bowser 03-21-2011 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack (Post 7506499)
Ages and ages hence, anthropologist' will read threads such as this and label present times the kindergarten of man's evolution. . .

Then ages and ages hence of that conclusion, it will be determined it was incorrect to place mankind that far ahead.

True story.

Los Pollos Hermanos 03-21-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7503910)
How do you know I am debt free? I could be lying with 60k dollars worth of credit card debt and an underwater mortgage.

Dave Ramsey called, he wants his schtick back.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-03-2011 02:17 AM

Okay,

1) When did this Faider **** decide that just because his team blew it's wad fighting the AFC West and could not do jack-shit against pathetic teams, that he could now walk about like his suck ass franchise is a source of empowerment?

And,

2) Why the **** would Dane "Leave Forever" at the incredibly weak ramblings of a gutless, self-absorbed pussy?

phisherman 07-03-2011 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7503835)
I never said the man was a wife beater, I asked him if he was because he has a hot head, .... very similar to you...

No accusations girly man just questions

P.S. How do you get your fat ego in that little ford focus you drive?

what you did right there was even worse. why would YOU even ask that question unless that's what you were insinuating?

passive aggressive behavior is not very becoming of you.

RobBlake 06-14-2016 05:23 PM

lmao.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-14-2016 11:49 PM

You in debt yet Freighters?

One of my fav digs fron this era..."Penis free and proud" ROFL

rico 06-15-2016 06:36 AM

I'm on my way to a meeting with a bankruptcy attorney at 9:30 this morning. Yeah, I'm not doing well financially at the moment.

Going to college was the ****ing worst decision I've ever ****ing made. I should have gone to a trade school of some sort. When you are (well, when many of us are) 18 years old, you don't realize how important these things are without an elaborate future plan previously mapped out. Back then, my focus was more geared towards chicks and wrestling. I figured merely attaining a BA would automatically result in being "fine." And if I got into a financial pickle, "future rico" would be able to handle it.. Well, "future rico" is now "present rico" and "present rico" would give anything to be given the chance to go back and smack "past rico" upside the head. Problem is...even if that were possible, "present rico" doesn't have anything to give.

Stupid...stupid....STUPID!!!!

stumppy 06-15-2016 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 12276388)
I'm on my way to a meeting with a bankruptcy attorney at 9:30 this morning. Yeah, I'm not doing well financially at the moment.

Going to college was the ****ing worst decision I've ever ****ing made. I should have gone to a trade school of some sort. When you are (well, when many of us are) 18 years old, you don't realize how important these things are without an elaborate future plan previously mapped out. Back then, my focus was more geared towards chicks and wrestling. I figured merely attaining a BA would automatically result in being "fine." And if I got into a financial pickle, "future rico" would be able to handle it.. Well, "future rico" is now "present rico" and "present rico" would give anything to be given the chance to go back and smack "past rico" upside the head. Problem is...even if that were possible, "present rico" doesn't have anything to give.

Stupid...stupid...
.STUPID!!!!

Theres a lot of us in that club.

loochy 06-15-2016 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 12276388)
I'm on my way to a meeting with a bankruptcy attorney at 9:30 this morning. Yeah, I'm not doing well financially at the moment.

Going to college was the ****ing worst decision I've ever ****ing made. I should have gone to a trade school of some sort. When you are (well, when many of us are) 18 years old, you don't realize how important these things are without an elaborate future plan previously mapped out. Back then, my focus was more geared towards chicks and wrestling. I figured merely attaining a BA would automatically result in being "fine." And if I got into a financial pickle, "future rico" would be able to handle it.. Well, "future rico" is now "present rico" and "present rico" would give anything to be given the chance to go back and smack "past rico" upside the head. Problem is...even if that were possible, "present rico" doesn't have anything to give.

Stupid...stupid....STUPID!!!!

So remember this when talking to your kids.

HELP them lay out a plan. Don't just throw them into the wild at 18. 18 year olds are generally NOT capable of making sound life altering decisions.

rico 06-15-2016 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 12276410)
So remember this when talking to your kids.

HELP them lay out a plan. Don't just throw them into the wild at 18. 18 year olds are generally NOT capable of making sound life altering decisions.

THIS...THIS...THIS. They are going to be so annoyed with me in terms of how involved I am with their future planning, for I will be crazy about it. I don't care though...it'll be for their own good.

Amnorix 06-15-2016 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 12276388)
I'm on my way to a meeting with a bankruptcy attorney at 9:30 this morning. Yeah, I'm not doing well financially at the moment.

Going to college was the ****ing worst decision I've ever ****ing made. I should have gone to a trade school of some sort. When you are (well, when many of us are) 18 years old, you don't realize how important these things are without an elaborate future plan previously mapped out. Back then, my focus was more geared towards chicks and wrestling. I figured merely attaining a BA would automatically result in being "fine." And if I got into a financial pickle, "future rico" would be able to handle it.. Well, "future rico" is now "present rico" and "present rico" would give anything to be given the chance to go back and smack "past rico" upside the head. Problem is...even if that were possible, "present rico" doesn't have anything to give.

Stupid...stupid....STUPID!!!!


I'm really, really sorry to hear that.

Don't get me started on the economics of college. I will rant on forever.

Not quite the same thing, of course, but I have personally dissuaded three people I know from going to law school, and couldn't be more proud of it. People think "law degree = big bucks" but they are VERY, VERY wrong.

The American middle class obsession with obtaining a college education is ****ing over generations of young people.

MIAdragon 06-15-2016 08:20 AM

Good luck Rico

Amnorix 06-15-2016 08:26 AM

Unfortunately, one of the things his bankruptcy attorney will tell him is that it is very, very hard to discharge student loans in bankruptcy. Not impossible, but not easy and certainly not guaranteed.

DaFace 06-15-2016 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12276503)
I'm really, really sorry to hear that.

Don't get me started on the economics of college. I will rant on forever.

Not quite the same thing, of course, but I have personally dissuaded three people I know from going to law school, and couldn't be more proud of it. People think "law degree = big bucks" but they are VERY, VERY wrong.

The American middle class obsession with obtaining a college education is ****ing over generations of young people.

The problem is that we seem to operate on a 25ish year window for knowledge and collective wisdom. 25 years ago, going to college was relatively inexpensive, and having a college degree was just about a guarantee that you could find a job that paid a reasonable wage.

Now, the cost of college has skyrocketed, and I know people with Ph.D.'s who are working for $30k/year. It's criminal.

Amnorix 06-15-2016 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12276515)
The problem is that we seem to operate on a 25ish year window for knowledge and collective wisdom. 25 years ago, going to college was relatively inexpensive, and having a college degree was just about a guarantee that you could find a job that paid a reasonable wage.

Now, the cost of college has skyrocketed, and I know people with Ph.D.'s who are working for $30k/year. It's criminal.


What has happened, in part, is that the value of college degrees has significantly lessened due to a vast, vast, increase in supply. Second, the costs of a college education have exploded due to:

1. federal grants/loans

2. demand for a college education due to changing societal norms. No longer is it geared to get you a job or profession, but now it's basically a minimum reqiurement for "polite society".

3. absolutely NO risk by colleges or banks in giving loans to students to go.


There is no longer any rational relationship between the cost of a college education, and the degree you get.

WHY THE **** IS THE U.S. GOVERNMENT LOANING ANY ****ING FOOL WHO WANTS ONE THE MONEY TO GO GET A GODDAMN ENGLISH OR HISTORY DEGREE?

Why the **** is the cost of an English degree the same as the cost of an engineering degree?

The cost of college has outpaced EVERYTHING else over the last 30 years. Even ****ing healthcare. The system is entirely broken and needs a complete overhaul.

DJ's left nut 06-15-2016 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12276513)
Unfortunately, one of the things his bankruptcy attorney will tell him is that it is very, very hard to discharge student loans in bankruptcy. Not impossible, but not easy and certainly not guaranteed.

Damn near nothing's impossible in law, but it's easier to get out of a murder rap than it is to discharge student loan debt.

And yeah, the bubble burst on law school about 6-7 years ago.

Honestly, I'm not sure what I'll tell my kid in 15 years. As you've noted, college degrees are expensive as hell for no good reason but if you want to get into the work force, you damn near have to have one. And as for find a steady route to a lucrative career....there just damn near isn't one anymore. Medicine? Yeah, engineering if you manage to get your foot in the door.

The future economy is just so far beyond my understanding that I wouldn't know where to start. It wouldn't surprise me at all if 20 years from now we're approaching an era where more people are freelancing than aren't. The idea of a stable, long-term employer seems to be less and less doable.

I'm just hopeful that the workforce finds a way to deal with changing technologies in the future and when it does, it stabilizes. Right now you're just in such a prisoner's dilemma with college and the employment market that I wouldn't know where to start.

Amnorix 06-15-2016 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12276543)
Damn near nothing's impossible in law, but it's easier to get out of a murder rap than it is to discharge student loan debt.

And yeah, the bubble burst on law school about 6-7 years ago.

Honestly, I'm not sure what I'll tell my kid in 15 years. As you've noted, college degrees are expensive as hell for no good reason but if you want to get into the work force, you damn near have to have one. And as for find a steady route to a lucrative career....there just damn near isn't one anymore. Medicine? Yeah, engineering if you manage to get your foot in the door.

The future economy is just so far beyond my understanding that I wouldn't know where to start. It wouldn't surprise me at all if 20 years from now we're approaching an era where more people are freelancing than aren't. The idea of a stable, long-term employer seems to be less and less doable.

I'm just hopeful that the workforce finds a way to deal with changing technologies in the future and when it does, it stabilizes. Right now you're just in such a prisoner's dilemma with college and the employment market that I wouldn't know where to start.


Agreed. It's a problem.

I just heard about a fascinating program that a friend's niece is going to do. It's a college that started out as a culinary school but has now expanded and is obviously much more "market-oriented" in terms of providing degrees with real life skills.

They are currently starting a new program for a degree in -- basically -- computer security. All about how to protect networks from hacks and all that stuff.

NOW THAT IS A ****ING CAREER PATH FOR THE NEW MILLENIA.

It's a small college in Rhode Island that I never heard of, but it was honestly the best plan for a career path I've heard in a long while from someone of HS or college age.

Amnorix 06-15-2016 08:52 AM

This is it. Johnson and Wales Unviersity. Sounds like a hand cream, but whatever.

Cyber Threat Intelligence and Defense program.



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Cyber Threat Intelligence & Defense - BS

The Cyber Threat Intelligence & Defense bachelor’s degree program is designed to fill a critical and growing need for cyber threat intelligence and defense personnel in the public and private sector. Students completing this curriculum should have the understanding of incident response techniques that detect, scope, and respond to internal and external intelligence. This intelligence is used to enable network and system defenders to establish protocols that decrease the cyber attacker’s likelihood of success with each ensuing intrusion attempt.

Upon completion of the program, graduates are expected to demonstrate the ability to:

Operate and communicate effectively in working with stakeholders at all levels.
Function effectively on teams to accomplish a common goal.
Synthesize aspects of professional, ethical, legal, security and social issues and responsibilities in the area of cyber operations.
Apply current techniques, skills, and tools necessary for computer and cyber practices.
Measure the performance of security systems within an enterprise level information system infrastructure.
Analyze the local and global impact of computing on individuals, organizations, and society.
Analyze a problem, identify possible threats, and define the computing requirements appropriate to solve cyber operations issues.
The focus of this new program, Cyber Threat Intelligence & Defense, is to educate and train the new wave of cyber specialist that can track, analyze, and counter digital security threats. This form of intelligence is a blend of physical reconnaissance and defense with modern information technology techniques. Proactive cyber defense is the direction of the future, the gathering of information about trends and behaviors of adversaries in anticipation to opposing an attack against computers and networks, is critical to mitigating operational risk.

An experiential educational experience is also offered. There are a variety of options available for students to complete the require 9 credit experience. Student may elect to add an additional 4.5 credits based upon advising and prior planning.

Upon graduations students may be employed in cyber –related jobs ranging from manufacturing, defense, public administration, healthcare and retail trade industries.

An important component of the program’s educational experience is the general studies courses taught by the School of Arts & Science. Graduates are expected to show competencies in higher order thinking, communications, ethics, global diversity, responsible citizenship, and leadership.

Cyber Threat, Intelligence & Defense

A four year program leading to the bachelor of science degree
http://catalog.jwu.edu/programsofstu...ce-defense-bs/

Donger 06-15-2016 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 12276388)
I'm on my way to a meeting with a bankruptcy attorney at 9:30 this morning. Yeah, I'm not doing well financially at the moment.

Going to college was the ****ing worst decision I've ever ****ing made. I should have gone to a trade school of some sort. When you are (well, when many of us are) 18 years old, you don't realize how important these things are without an elaborate future plan previously mapped out. Back then, my focus was more geared towards chicks and wrestling. I figured merely attaining a BA would automatically result in being "fine." And if I got into a financial pickle, "future rico" would be able to handle it.. Well, "future rico" is now "present rico" and "present rico" would give anything to be given the chance to go back and smack "past rico" upside the head. Problem is...even if that were possible, "present rico" doesn't have anything to give.

Stupid...stupid....STUPID!!!!

I'm sorry to hear that, rico. Best of luck.


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