I agree. 80% of both of their defenses will be playing on Sunday the next 4 years.



Both of these teams would get whacked by some of the past participants that had defense and QB's. It is a down year for college football overall.

The BCS's job is to put the best 2 teams in football in the game.


Who else even comes close to Bama and LSU?

How is that the right thing?

Which team other than LSU is better than them?

If OSU wins tonight, I want to see LSU-Oklahoma State

You think OSU is better than Alabama?

This.

OSU needs to win big tonight

It's a down year for football in general. The NFL has been shit too.

Should OSU win tonight, they'll have beaten double the ranked teams than Alabama(4-2)

We've allready seen LSU and Alabama play

Alabama had a shot at LSU and had it at home. They don't deserve another.

I don't know about that, but would like to see it. Alabama already lost to LSU at home.

Yep.


But GB disagrees. :D

And lost to infinitely more unranked teams than Alabama.

And they'll have infinitely less losses to LSU than Alabama.

And infinitely more losses to Iowa State than Alabama.

Alabama beat 4 ranked teams at the time they played.

They're still the 2nd best team in the nation. And they lost 9-6. Hardly a definitive win for LSU.

In overtime.

If you want to count 6 loss Florida and 5 loss Auburn as ranked teams, that's your prerogative.

This would all be much more simple if there were a playoff. :)

Just sayin'.

Nonsense

If they rematch and Alabama wins, who do you vote for for national champion? Do they play a 3rd game?

If its close I'd still vote for LSU, with a road win being more impressive than a neutral site win.

That would be just dumb. Lets let two teams that have allready played each other play again.

Was there a winner? :shrug:

You were counting 5 loss Missouri or 5 loss Texas and 6 loss A&M.

They're also ranked, unlike Florida and Auburn(and soon to be Texas which I didn't include). And I didn't include A&M.

I agree, it's turrible (/Charles Barkley) to have teams settle this debate on the field and not in a cubicle at a computer.

As was the OSU loss, and the OSU one was on a road

I would add that it was also after other members in the athletic department there were killed in a plane crash, though I'm certain that couldn't have any effect on the pshyche of college kids.

Rumor is Crowell is transferring from Georgia.

The OSU loss was also to an unranked, 0.500 team. Hardly comparable to losing to the consensus #1 team in the country.

OSU also played very close games with KSU and A&M. Bama annihilated every other opponent.

The only reasoning behind the stupidity that is the BCS is we're in a real life Saw movie and this guy is behind the computer...

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DaKC:
You keep beating your drum, at least you're consistent. I think you're a ****ing douche with a very tired schtick, but I HAVE to give you credit for consistency.

I'm really interested in what you do here. I think OU beats OSU tonight so all the rematch debate will be moot, but what happens if in the rematch Alabama beats LSU by 3 or less? Who do the voters award the national championship to? I'd still vote for LSU for winning on the road and for the extra game (today vs Georgia.)

Man, these SEC fans are good. The hate email came in before the column was even finished.
Hey Reilly:
I hope you get gangrene on your nose. Your so-called "article" ridiculing an LSU-Alabama rematch for the national championship was stupid. Just because you thought the first one was "boring" does not mean these are not the two best teams. Go back to your spider hole. --Jimmy Tomjack, Birmingham, Ala.

The first LSU-Alabama game was more boring than Tim Tebow's porn stash. To play another one will be like remaking "J. Edgar" or attending a goiter convention.
But that's not why there should be no Dullapalooza II on Jan. 9 in the Superdome. There shouldn't be one because it makes the BCS honchos liars. This is their Twitter handle: @EveryGameCounts. But how can every game count if it doesn't matter who won the first one?
If you remember, LSU won the first game -- which resembled hippos taking a mud bath -- 9-6 (in OT, no less), in Tuscaloosa. Didn't hurt the Tide any. They're going to get a mulligan if we don't stop it. You have to figure, too, that, if Alabama had won, then LSU would only have one loss and the Tigers would get the redo. This is because, apparently, no conference can really play football in this country except the SEC, which invented the sport in 2006.
Meanwhile, four one-loss teams that didn't get two shots at the title will be playing in the Black Friday Pepper Spray Bowl. Afterward, they'll tweet about it at @EveryGameCountsUnlessAnSECTeamLoses.


A team that didn't even make its conference title game will be playing in the national title game? It's like Rick Perry withdrawing from the primaries and then going up against President Barack Obama.



Dear Communist:
You have the brains of half a worm. It's true that Alabama didn't qualify for their own conference title game, but they're still the second-best team in the country by a country mile. Go drink a can of Raid.
--Jacktom Jimmy, Tuscaloosa, Ala.

Sorry. Alabama playing in the title game is bonkers. A team that didn't even make its conference title game will be playing in the national title game? It's like Rick Perry withdrawing from the primaries and then going up against President Obama.
But imagine how idiotic this system is through LSU's binoculars. While the Bayou Bengals are beating their brains out against Georgia in the conference title game this Saturday at the Georgia Dome -- aka, the crime scene -- Alabama will be enjoying chicken wings and "Tosh.0" reruns and resting up. "I won't lie to you," Alabama linebacker Dont'a Hightower told The Associated Press. "It's going to be good to get a week off. A lot of guys are banged up."
Welcome to BCS logic.

Of course, if Alabama wins Walking Dead II, the Tide will be … what? National champions? How? They'll have one loss, same as all the other contenders. They'll have split the home-and-home series with LSU. They won't even have won their SEC division, much less their conference. Yet they could wind up petting the crystal football.
Wouldn't that be special?

Yo, jackwagon:

You rail against a rematch, but who would you rather have play LSU? There's nobody else. Even No. 3 Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy said this week that he wouldn't vote his team No. 2. Go pound tumbleweeds. --Tommy Jim, Jackson, Ala. Whom would I rather see? Any team that hasn't already blown its chance.

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Or what about Stanford-LSU? Like the Houndstooths, the Cardinal only have one loss, theirs to an Oregon team faster than 4G. You don't think a Stanford team led by Heisman Trophy shoo-in QB Andrew Luck wouldn't make any SEC defense wonder whether to scream or go bowling?

What about LSU-Virginia Tech? The Hokies' only loss was to Clemson, which they could avenge Saturday in the ACC title game.
Or LSU vs. one-loss Boise State? The Broncos fell to TCU by just one point. You SEC fans remember Boise State, right? It went down south in Week 1 and beat Georgia? Georgia, the team that's one win from claiming your most holy and exalted SEC title?
With all these deserving teams, you still think Alabama should get another chance? You want Kris Humphries and Kim Kardashian to remarry, too?

This SEC bias has to stop. The world of college football doesn't end at the Louisiana border.
The Rematch should make you want to Regurgitate. Two-thirds of the rankings are based on humans. Voters, be fair. We played this one already, and Alabama lost.

What, your TiVo broke?
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If OU beats OSU tonight, then **** it, let's have a rematch. Someone shoot me in the face if that happens.

The AP can go their own way, but the voters for polls affiliated with the BCS are contractually obligated to vote the BCSNCG winner #1.

If I'm not mistaken, the rules in place say the Coaches are mandated to vote for the winner of the BCS Championship game. If I am, I'm certain someone will correct me shortly.

:banghead: Which is why there shouldn't be a rematch. The winner of the title game wins the title. The AP could award their version of the Championship to someone else though.

I think it's hard to make the case that LSU and Alabama aren't the two best teams.

But these things are all subjective. You can definitely say Oklahoma State's loss was worse, and it was... but if you look at precedent, that hasn't always mattered. Michigan's only loss a couple years ago was to #1 and it didn't matter. It definitely would be fun to see Oklahoma State's offense go up against LSU's D. I would love to see LSU's defense and secondary against a really good college QB like Weeden or Luck or Griffin.

He loses all credibility talking about Bama not winning their conference (when the reason why is the team they'd be playing won the conference) and then suggests Stanford WHO DIDN'T WIN THEIR CONFERENCE.

This is annoying but a good point. LSU should have let Alabama win last time, if they were just going to play it again regardless of what happened, may as well lose the first one and not have to play an extra game against Georgia. Alabama comes out way ahead by virtue of losing. BCS!

In that scenario (Michigan-osu), Florida didn't lose to an unranked 0.500 team. They lost to (at the time) #11 Auburn, who finished the bowl season ranked #9.

OSU is underated heavily by SEC knuckleheads, but they have no defense. I think that they could compete, but ultimately fold.

Yeah, but does that really matter? You can't have a better loss than a loss to #1. Everything after that is going for 2nd place.

I'm sure one more game is really going to matter 5 weeks from now.

I think we've seen enough movies about high-flying offenses going up against SEC teams in championship games to know how they all end.

Spoiler alert: Oklahoma got worked by LSU and Florida while Oregon got whipped by Auburn.

I'm shocked, SHOCKED at Saul_Good's position on this.

That year Florida played the #1 schedule in the country, scored more ppg than Michigan, allowed less ppg than Michigan, beat more ranked teams than Michigan (highest being the #5 ranked team), and won their conference championship (giving them a better record than Michigan).

Michigan/OSU was the last game of the season, and that's all that mattered. Michigan fell to #3, just like Alabama... but Alabama had plenty of time to sit and wait for OSU to lose.

Whipped, really? Wasn't it a last second FG to win it?
I may be misremembering.

So, basically, all the arguments(except the points allowed) that Reilly just mentioned in his article?

I'd rather see OSU play LSU, but I'm not blind. It's been done.

Oklahoma state won't have a better record than Bama nor will they allow less ppg than Bama, so no.

No, LSU Alabama has been done. OSU/LSU hasn't.

Oregon got whipped by Auburn? Wasn't that a 7 point game?

Auburn kicked a fg to win by 3 at the end.

I stand corrected it was a 3 pt game.

Whipped was too strong of a word, but Auburn controlled that game and could have punched in a TD at the end. Auburn also had almost 200 more yards rushing IIRC.

Oregon also had a MUCH better defense than OSU has.

Didn't that game winning FG come after a fluke play where the RB rolled over a defender and everyone thought he was down and he gained like 40 more yards?

Also Oregon put 449 yards on that SEC defense.

I get the Alabama is the next best team argument, but I also don't think they should get another chance. Hell they lost to LSU at home.

The national champ. game is in New Orleans. What makes anyone think they could beat LSU basically as the home team?

Don't remind us what REALLY happened!

You're right. They got "whipped."

If you can't win your conference you have no business in the NC game. Period.

Absolutes are a great way to determine things.

BOOMER

Look if you want to see OK State get raped, fine. I'll be laughing the whole time. And Auburn's defense was horrible, hence the close game. Yall can live in that dreamworld that any team from another conference has any chance at beating LSU. It's adorable and sickening at the same time.

So if OU wins tonight and Clemson beats VT you'd have Boise St. in the BCSNCG?

:spock:

The argument is about the #2 team.

I don't think anyone is beating LSU. Their defense is amazing. I don't think Alabama's going to beat them either.

That's like saying if you can't win your division you have no business in a BCS game.

Landry Jones sails easy throws when his timing gets thrown off.

No flag?

I have always said that he is Matt Cassel part 2.

I want OU to win, but I can't bring myself to root for them.

The 28 year old QB completes his first pass.

"If you lose to Iowa State, you have no business playing in the NC game" is a better absolute.

Eh, I'm sure Big Game Bob will **** us here.

Why should any team get an opportunity at a NC if they cannot even win their own conference? Bama had their shot and lost. Simple as that.

I don't give a shit who the other team is as long as it isn't Bama.

They didn't touch him

He makes throws that MC could only imagine. He has a lot more talent than Cassel, but he may not be a better QB.