Anyone made it to the first FA or Draft yet? I want to know how those look.

There are no double teams in Madden pass blocking.

Only a select few runnings plays actually have a double team, then the blocker tries to peel to second leve. As far as true double teams.. not in Madden.

This has been a problem of the line blocking AI for the past several years.

Picked it up lastnight. Have not Played madden since 08 on ps2. I really enjoy this game. I think its way more fun than ncaa. The off season mode is awesome. They actuslly talk about prospects for the draft during the season, I thought that was awesome. I traded Casshole, and traded up to the number 5 spot to try and draft a Qb who was supposed to go 6th. To my suprise, the guy who was supposed to go 1st overall slid to the number 5 slot, so I drafted an awesome qb. To me, that showed it doesnt always draft the bpa for every team. All teams ahead of me had good qb's, and didnt need one. I assumed if he was projected to go number one overall, he would. But he didnt so I thought that was cool.

In my first season Tamba had 1 sack? I had no idea why, but im using him as a user player now to try and beef those stats up. Overall though I really like the game.

How are the draft prospects turning out? I'm interested to see how they are....since you can't import a draft class.

well whatever, all i know is that whenever i put Powe, Toribio, and Poe as my defensive lineman, my linebackers were in the backfield on almost every single play and the lineman were even breakin through to get after the qb.

I will def try it online tonight. I can't get sh1t for a passrush with tamba, t-jack, dorsey and poe.

So, ….
Should I bite the bullet and trade in NCAA for Madden?

I’ve been playing NCAA dynasty as a D-coordinator for Bowling Green.
Recruiting is improved, but still seems a bit tedious.

I don't think anyone should trade anything in... ever. Such a ripoff.

I find madden or fun than ncaa so far.

Pretty iffy.. There were 3 QB's in my draft class that were projected top 15 picks.. the #1 guy ended up being a 74 overall and the #15 guy was an 82.. I also drafted a MLB in the 5th round that was an 81. A lot of it is luck... Unless you have 10K you want to throw down on an individual to see what range their overall rating is..

That's one thing I haven't quite figured out yet. It seems like every week you get a random amount of Scout Points given to you? Is there any way to increase that amount?

Also, I'm glad to see they got rid of that dumbass A,B,C,D,F potential rating horseshit they had in Madden 11 (the last one I played). Some players can progress faster than others but they won't be limited by some dumbass, arbitrary, random, completely ****ing stupid cap.

Yeah, and I'll tell you something else. The best players aren't always or even usually in the top 10. I reach on almost every pick, and rarely pick anyone under 75. So far I picked an 84 overall CB in the 2nd round (maxed potential, projected 3rd rounder) I picked an 84 overall Center in the 5th round (maxed potential, projected 7th round) and an 82 overall right guard ( quick potential, projected 7th rounder) in the same draft. Oh, and I drafted a 7th round projected 5 tech DE and he was better than Dorsey as soon as he signed with the team. Got an awesome TE in the 2nd round too. He's 6-7 and has 88 speed and good ratings. Oh, damn, and I drafted a back up HB in the 4th round (projected 25 in the fifth) and he was an 84 with maxed potential. I have no doubt he was better than the 2 first round prospects, because I scouted them all.

Always scout awareness. Lots of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounders have like 10 awareness with you can't overcome.

What I've had trouble locating later in the draft are good WR's and good QB's. I think the WR's are there, but I scout QB's and rarely see anyone I'd call a steal.

I think I might have to pick this up. NCAA recruiting is just time consuming.

I finally got a chance to play against Gonzo last night. The graphics are outstanding and the players look more realistic than w/ the previous Madden games. :thumb:

Oh, and I got my ass kicked by 2 TDs and 1 FG...

Chiefs 27
Titans 10

LMAO

Can you play online with a friend on the same team in franchise? Or in any mode?

No

Thats lame

Have you ever been able to?

Seems like they let you at one point but I'm not sure. Id like to be able to. Seems like it'd be simple to implement

Yup

So I was playing my Chiefs franchise today. Its my brothers birthday and he wanted to play with me. So he turns on his controller and we get to the controller select screen and....wait why cant he join? What is this? I look it up and I couldn't believe it. No co-op during career mode. You HAVE TO BE ****ING KIDDING ME! Really?!?! We've played franchise together as the Chiefs for YEARS. Why would they take that out? **** you EA. **** you.

they take steps forward and improve things, but then take steps back and totally **** up other things

Finally started playing online again since opening week. I made the mistake of playing a ton of games on release night while I was drunk.. My record shows this.

This morning I finally got the ball moving with Charles. I'm starting to feel a bit more comfortable with the Chiefs playbook and I am learning how to use Cassel with his limitations. The best part was my opponent played as the Broncos.. I'll take a dub in Denver any day.

Yeah but the things they take out I usually get over pretty quick. Taking out playing on the same team with a friend in franchise is too much to forgive for me personally

they've taken out every feature I've ever liked that made the game more enjoyable for me.

I'm still pissed that you still can't pick certain players for certain plays. Like I would rather have Hillis in an iform big formation, but no....you can't do that anymore and haven't been able to do it in 5 years.

EA has proved that they don't care about anything other than profits and people who buy this shit are just sheep.

The fact of the matter is, they bought themselves a monopoly forcing the competition to close it's doors when they were already making a superior product for a lower price. What good are rights if people can't stand up for them?

I don't think I can but ill ask anyways. Can you do a draft with the current players? Like pick the chiefs and draft rodgers

??? go to the formation you want and just use the RS to go to spell HB. its faster and easier than the last Madden I bought.

no fantasy draft. at least not that I know of.

Yeah really... You can sub players for any play.

Rented it this weekend. Played a couple of games and started a franchise. Took it back the next night. This game ****ing sucks.

I think the gameplay is better than it has been since this gen started. Unfortunately they ****ed with "franchise mode" too much and i STILL cannot ****ing believe my brother and I can't play on the same team in franchise. It may not be a big deal to some of you, but to me and my brother it's HUGE. We've ALWAYS been able to play together in franchise. Always. It's just inexcusable. No reason for it at all. I couldn't believe it. They need to patch it back in but I know there is a 0% chance of that happening. EA already got everyones money so what do they care?

oh, must not been able to find it. Oh well, I didn't buy the game anyways, I just got that 3 day early release and never bought it.

Is there ANY chance that they could come out with a patch that allows you to play with a friend locally during offline franchise on the same team, ya know, like in every other Madden since the beginning of time? If not I'm gonna ebay this game today.

Then you might want to proceed with eBay.

Yeah, I guess I should have looked more carefully at what things they were taking OUT of the game this year, but to be fair I never imagined in a hundred years they would take something as basic as THAT out of the damn game. Something that's been part of the game since they started making Madden.

I still don't understand why people still buy this game...

anybody have problems with fair catch fakes? I played chiefs/bills today. I punted away and switched to the gunner. the bills punt returner waved for a fair catch and I made the gunner run past him in order to avoid the returner. I didn't touch him, there was at least a yard in between the two players. Sims announces it as a fair catch but the returner takes off running and gets a 30 yard return.

Hmm Ive played probably around 30 games and haven't seen that yet. Which console are you playing on? I doubt that makes a difference, but I'm curious. I'm playing on 360.

same

0% chance. They said before the release that they might add it back in for later years though.

Somebody explain to me why they don't port this game for PC's. My sons a IT student computer nerd and the best he's come up with is 'they're idiots' and 'that shit is gay anyhow so who cares play world of tanks or something'.

If you stand in front of the punt returner he will move away and allow you to gain some extra yards on the punt and eliminate the possibility of a return.

My biggest gripe is not allowing the controls to be re-mapped. I much perfer the controls from the older ps2 versions(03/04/05/06/07/08etc) I use to own on defense, could stop almost any pass from being completed, using strafe and triangle any pass within range was picked if it let my guy catch it. I haven't been able to adjust, it's just not natural to me.

I also hate how they removed the mini-camps allowing a person to learn the new controls.
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I get this all the time in my offline franchise. I've actually called fair catch myself and been DRILLED by the gunner. McCluster fumbled and then recovered his own fumble. No call for personal foul. No call for kick catch interference. Just moved on as if the fair catch had never been called.

I also see, almost every time I punt, the opposing returner calls fair catch and then runs forward (as if he was standing inside his own 10 yard line and hoping for a touchback) at the last second. But this happens at like the 40... Adding about 15 yards of bounce to my punt. Of course, my computer controlled gunners don't let the ball bounce as far as it can. They just grab it on the first bounce in mid air, downing the ball WAY too early. Still, it's a really fun game and I'm glad I own it. Just little things. I wish I was the one in charge of making this game. It needs a whole new philosophy.

the real shame of it is the punting game has been improved by a lot. this fair catch glitch just negates that improvement. when I punt from my side of the 50, I can kick across the field and get it low enough that the ball will hit the ground before the returner gets to it. depending on the bounce and roll, I can nail punts for 60 yards+ and they cant even return it. But when I punt to a short field I have to angle it up to avoid the touchback. that's when the fair catches are called. if the gunner gets close, they try to return it anyway.

I've played a decent amount of games and haven't encountered a single bit of this stuff you guys are mentioning.

I'd also like to add that I think the new physics engine is great and is what's been needed for years. It was extremely frustrating to stop a player short of the marker, only to have him get the first down/TD due to some horseshit predetermined animation. Gang tackling actually matters in this game.

The game has it's flaws and like any sports game it gets a bit monotonous, but overall this one is a huge step in the right direction.

So how much more smoother and better is the actual game compared to demo? I just downloaded the demo and I'm just starting to get used to it.

User-rushing the QB is ****ing hard unless you bring the house.

I know there would be some difference and patchups, but is there a considerable difference?

I can already tell this game is better than last year's, but I'm still skeptical about purchasing this game.

I've seen posts about how people have trouble running the ball. Get a fast RB and run stretch plays against man coverage and you're golden. They've made it more real about how much better certain QB's are than others....just by the demo, Eli is 10000x better than Alex Smith, even w/ all of the weapons they have in their passing game.

Jamaal went off for 363 yards rushing in my last game against the Jets, including a nice 96 yarder to end the first half. I was just planning on running out the clock and juked out two defenders and was off to the races.

Yep,
I've ran with JC for over 2500 yards this season, 30 TD's and over 800 yards receiving.
Of course, I started this year on all pro for the first 6 games. However, Charles' ability to break tackles is superhuman in this edition. Hillis is a monster at FB as well.

are you playing online or off? all the weird stuff happens when I play offline single. PvP is a much better experience so long as your opponent doesn't exploit the cheese.

Offline franchise mode. Played through one season.

I scored 98 playing a friend online. I had 42 in the first quarter. I dont know how the **** i did it.

Your friend sucks?

This would allow people to fix EA's horrid AI system and then they would actually have to do some work to match it.

They blame piracy, i hate the console only BS. Truth is there is just as much piracy on the xplox as their is on the PC. Only it's easier on the 360 because once you have spoofed the custom firmware you don't even have to crack the games.

98 points. I couldnt do that in 10 tries on rookie.

Fade passes are almost worthless in this game, a comolete turnaround from last year when you could automatically score with any tall reciever that can jump.

still cant run the ball. Pretty frustrating.

Curl routes are the new slant passes. If your man is playing off its an easy 10 yards. Baldwin always beats his man and his route running is a 70 something.

It seems like no matter how good your rolb is, he always gets stonewalled and no matter how bad your lolb is he gets pressure.

Is it just me or is All-Madden a lot easier this year? Back on PS2, I dominated on All-Madden, but once the next gen Maddens started coming out, AM became absurdly difficult, while All-Pro was too easy.

This year though, I was whooping ass on All-Pro so I decided to see what All-Madden was like this time. Well, I'm 15-1 and about to start the playoffs tonight. Running the ball is extremely easy with Charles. I used his massive amounts of experience points and now he has a 99 in speed and a 98 in acceleration. I put the rest of the points in carrying because I figure might as well give him less of a chance to fumble. With my coach experience points, I spent most of them on DT experience points boost so I can progress Poe faster, and next I'm gonna buy the QB exp boost so when I draft a QB in the offseason I will be able to progress him faster. See ya Cassel!

You have to manually catch fade passes this year. No more CPU auto rocket catch.

Why not just continue to develop Matty?/Pioli

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or throw a bullet pass to the receiver and catch it manually

I can run right to the outside just because Charles always gets the corner. I never run inside or off tackle. running left rarely works. goal line situations are the exception. run a lead dive play and just hurdle over the line.

curl routes almost always work and drag route lobs always work.

the ratings for the OLBs don't really matter. the offenses' left tackle will hold a block well while the right tackle always sucks at it.

Yes, it is easier this year. Last year's version the All Madden level had the habit of the occasional game where the CPU would just cheat. For example, a back would break 6 tackles and run for an 80 TD against you. And this might happen 3 or 4 times in a game. Not every game, mind you. Anytime I had a game where it felt like the CPU was not being realistic and just cheating me, I would quit and start over. I don't care if I lose, but not like that.

Oh, and I finished my first season 15-1 and won the SB playing all the way through on All Madden.

Running left works. You just have to run the right plays at the right times. Try the singleback counter play. You can even put Baldwin in motion to the right and if the defense is in man to man, it will leave one less defender over there.

Yeah I'm 15-1 this year on All Madden. I'm about to play my first playoff game against the Jets. I'm gonna whoop their ass. The one game I lost was against ****ing Oakland. I lost 7-0 somehow because of god damn Cassel. Every time I was about to score, Cassel would **** it up. I had a broken passing play and I took off up the sideline with Cassel. I had a couple blockers and somehow I ended up tip-toeing down the sideline for like 65 yards. BUT, then some asshole came up behind me and popped Cassel right before he crossed the goal line. I was as close to the sideline as possible, and of course the fumble didn't go out of bounds. It bounced right to the middle of the endzone and they recovered it.

That's another thing that's pissing me off about All Madden this year. Whenever my opponent fumbles, they recover it so fast I don't even have time to react. Literally by the time the word "FUMBLE" pops up, they've already recovered it. That happens every single damn time. Also, I get a bunch of sacks every game, but I never make the QB fumble. You'd think popping the QB 8 times a game with Houston or Hali and I might see a fumble occur ONCE. Nope. So I started rushing the QB with the intention of stripping the ball with L1. It never works.

Okay, let me ask you a hypothetical question. Scenario: You make video games. Your most popular seller is a game based off the NFL product that you pay royalties for.

Now imagine that the NFL called you and said "We're no longer allowing anyone who pays to use our image, and we're going to auction the rights off to a single exclusive buyer at a much higher rate."

Would you bid on that property in an attempt to obtain it, or are you fundamentally reeruned?

Blame the NFL. EA did what any company would do.

Exactly. It's the fault of the NFL. 2K can't compete with EA Sports when it comes to a bidding war.

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So I started playing online earlier this week. I lost my first 2 games but have won my last 4. Its great to see all the different strategies people use and I feel like its making me a beast.

I lost my first game big to a guy using the Niners. I was running pretty well on them but he used man coverage 100% of the time and completely blanketed my receivers. Cassel threw 5 INTs that game. I lost my second against a guy using the Pats while I used the Ravens. It was close but he ended up winning because I just couldnt get it in the endzone when I needed to; probably because I just need practice with Baltimore.

The games I won ended up being close scores (within 14 points) but never really felt that close. One guy used the Lions and returned two kicks for TDs. I ended up having to squib it every time and just concede the yardage. His offense was pretty good but his defense was astoundingly terrible. He'd always user control the MLB and completely overrun every play. I scored like 45 points on him and he ended up with 35. I had issues with another guy returning kicks that used the Redskins. I squibbed him all game as well and forced RGIII to throw 5 INTs to get the easy W.

I feel like my superior knowledge of x's and o's allows me to beat a lot of these scrubs. I use my entire offensive Playbook and don't usually reuse the same plays. My go-to's tend to be crossing routes and JC coming out of the backfield but if the guy catches on I can easily adjust or mix up other plays to keep them on their toes. Once I get the lead its pretty much over. I just sub out JC for Hillis to keep them fresh and pound the game away.

Today I made my first person quit. He was using the Raiders LMAO He didn't run the ball a single damn time. I stayed in the 1-4-6 man coverage, safety's deep zone and LB pass rush for like 85% of the game because of that. The guy went for it on 4th down deep in his own territory twice and only had like 4 go-to plays. What a bum.

So I'm liking Madden, but suddenly this week there are changes to the connected careers player mode. exp points for practice have gone up by 1000, and now you can switch your player to be a starter, no matter what their rating is. That'd be fine except there's a glitch and it automatically switches to starter, no matter how many times you turn it off. This bugs me because, call me crazy, but part of the fun for me is having my player rise up the depth chart. Now he's just the starter, even as an undrafted rookie. I want that feature gone.

I'm actually loving the new Madden.

Am i the only one who changes the Chiefs Uni to Red on Red? I wish they would do this on some Sundays.

crossing routes won't beat man this year. Go to comeback routes vs man, wr drags with a TE or slot streak to hit vs zone in the seam. I think im around 65-15 online with KC, should be closing in around top 200.

Here's a thread I started on a madden site about KC's book. Theres a video (not mine) with a good scheme.

http://www.thegamerslab.com/communit...ml#post2268323

I do this a lot too. I also use white on white on the road.

yes and the NFL and EA both knew this. Who is to say they weren't working together to make this happen?

I don't understand how a consumer could argue this. This monopoly deal they worked is bad for the consumer. Which is why monopolies are supposed to be illegal.

I do think it's bad for the consumer. I would love 2K and other companies to be able to make NFL football games. It would make Madden better for one thing.

I love to play around with the unis. wish I could get purple w/ white stripe pants for the Ravens. For chiefs, I go all whites. I'd like to get white leg sleeves over red pants like Flowers wore yesterday. I guess I'll have to play around in player edit. (x52)

You moron, the NFL has a monopoly on professional football, that's why they were given a ****ing anti-trust exemption from the government. Do you know what that is?

THEY are the one abusing ANTI TRUST exemption they were given by the gov't and have been doing it for years. They do it with NFL sunday ticket and they do it with the NFL network. They also did it with their video game license.

Direct your anger properly moron or the NFL will just keep doing this shit. EA can't get exclusive rights to their games unless it's available to them. Blame the disease, not the symptom.

I'm not arguing it's good, I'm arguing that what EA did was what any business would do in that situation. It's ridiculous and idiotically naive to believe otherwise.

Personally I have a long list of other reasons I hate EA as a game company.

Do not like this accurate passing shit.

can someone tell me how to get linebackers and safeties to line up over their assigned man? I play the 360 version if that makes a difference.

I just get frustrated with blitzing because if a safety has to cover a running back, he stays deep and there is no way he can make up the distance once the play starts. the same goes for linebackers trying to man cover tight ends, split ends and slot receivers.

You don't want LB's covering split ends or slot receivers.. but to answer your question, use man align. Coverage Audible then D-pad to the right i think.

You can manually bring to safeties down a bit to close the gap on the RB.

Yeah that man align option doesn't ever work for me. It takes defenders even farther away from their man sometimes.