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Kaepernick 05-08-2014 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10614108)
You do realize you're talking to Chiefs fans.....right?

97% of all fan bases are spoiled, impatient, demanding, knee-jerk morons who have no clue how to actually build let alone run a professional sports team.

What makes you think the Chief's have a monopoly on idiotic fans. We have our share of them in the 49ers fan base as well.

That's why they call us "fanatics". We are unreasonable, demanding, spoiled and childish most of the time.

BryanBusby 05-08-2014 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10614147)
For the remainder of his contract? Doubt it.

I don't know. He probably has a shot to stay if he agrees to a pay cut.

Flowers is a dead man walking though.

Tribal Warfare 05-08-2014 11:33 PM

Meet Dee Ford, the Chiefs’ first-round pick Meet Dee Ford, the Chiefs’ first-round pick
By TOD PALMER
The Kansas City Star

Chiefs first-round pick Dee Ford will arrive in Kansas City on Friday morning — and he can’t wait.

“I’m looking forward to seeing everyone, and I’m hoping everyone is looking forward to seeing me,” said Ford, a defensive end from Auburn. “We’re going to have some great times, man. I plan on being a Kansas City Chief forever, so no trading me.”

Ford’s enthusiasm was readily apparent during a conference call Thursday night after he was selected No. 23 overall by the Chiefs during the first round of the NFL Draft.

He was giddy talking about the phone call he received from Chiefs coach Andy Reid.

“I’m trying to not to be a fan of his,” said Ford, who watched the opening day of the draft with his family in Anniston, Ala. “He’s my head coach right now, but — good Lord — it’s Andy Reid. I was stunned, a man of character right there.”

He also was effusive in talking about the Chiefs’ fan base.

“I hear you all have the best fans,” Ford said. “I don’t know for sure, but I hear you all have the best fans in football. So, I’m definitely looking forward to that. I’m really humbled by this situation.”

Of course, Ford might have been most excited when he was asked about the prospect of replacing Pro Bowl outside linebacker Tamba Hali as a rush specialist in the Chiefs’ 3-4 scheme.

It wasn’t because Ford is eager to displace Hali, though.

“I love edge rushers,” Ford said. “I’m a big fan of Tamba Hali. I’m definitely a big fan of his.”

Instead, Ford is most eager to learn from Hali.

“I’m going to humble myself, learn from these vets and, man, we’re going to do some things,” Ford said. “I can’t measure what I’m going to do from what (Hali) did. He’s a dynamic pass-rusher. He’s so beyond me. I need to learn. That’s my No. 1 goal, be a teammate and learn.”

Asked what he needs to work on the most, Ford replied, “Everything. I’m not perfect in my pass rush or my run game. But let’s be honest, I played in the SEC and I was a starter for two years. You have to stop the run, and I was a starter. I was not a liability to my defense. I think sometimes, when your specialty is pass rush, the natural thing to do is question their ability to stop the run, because we’re getting off the ball.”

However, Ford — and Reid and general manager John Dorsey — shrugged off any concerns about his ability to handle the run-defense or pass-coverage demands of the outside-linebacker spot in the Chiefs’ system.

Ford said he spoke briefly with the Chiefs at the NFL Combine, but he hadn’t had contact beyond that and was surprised when Reid, Dorsey and defensive coordinator Bob Sutton called.

He wasn’t surprised to go in the first round, though.

“I had a great Senior Bowl, I had a great Pro Day, and things just worked out for me,” Ford said. “But I was confident I was going to be taken in the first round.”

Ford led Auburn, which won the SEC and reached the BCS National Championship Game, with 10 1/2 sacks and 14 1/2 tackles for a loss last season. He recorded 29 total tackles.

As a junior, Ford recorded six sacks and 34 tackles in 11 games after shaking off the injury bug early in his career.

Ford was limited to three games in 2011 with a back injury that required surgery and also suffered a left knee injury during the 2013 preseason.

Chiefs’ first-round pick

• WHO: Outside linebacker Dee Ford

• PICK: Round one (23rd overall)

• SCHOOL: Auburn

• HEIGHT: 6-2

• WEIGHT: 252

• 2013 STATS:
Finished with 10 1/2 sacks and 14 1/2 tackles for a loss as a defensive end for the national runner-up, Auburn. Ford also racked up 29 total tackles and an interception.

• RED FLAGS:
Ford won’t be able to drop into coverage without getting exposed — at least not without extensive coaching — and probably isn’t going to be great against the run, but he can get after the quarterback. He’s athletic, but he occasionally struggles to shed blocks and has a history of injuries.

• FUN FACT:
Ford was a star at the Senior Bowl and also made waves when he declared that he is as good of a pass-rusher as South Carolina’s Jadeveon Clowney, who was the No. 1 overall pick by the Houston Texans. In fairness, Ford’s stats and measurable — 40-yard dash time, bench press, vertical and broad jump — are comparable to Clowney’s.

• WHERE HE FITS IN:
Ford is a workmanlike edge rusher who played defensive end for Auburn. He’s a high-motor player with a great speed rush off the edge. Ford is the ready-made successor for Tamba Hali if his cap number becomes prohibitive looking toward 2015. He also provides some much-needed depth for Hali and fellow outside linebacker Justin Houston.

Discuss Thrower 05-08-2014 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 10614152)
I'm warming up to the pick, but we still have a huge hole at FS

Houston, Poe, Hali.

If you have two more consistent pass rushing threats on the field then you can get by with Berry/Abdullah/Commings(???) playing deep IMO.

Problem is KC is short on those two pass rush threats at the moment, unless Walker, Ford and/or an Linebacker TBNL prove to be that consistent threat.

Kaepernick 05-08-2014 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10614122)
Not like your team has two second rounders or anything.

You Chernobyl mother****ers.

Oh yeah, thanks for the extra 2nd rounder this year for Alex Smith. It is really going to come in handy. THANKS. ROFL

Also, when you see Tank Carradine doing his thing this season, don't forget that he was who we got with your first 2nd round pick last year for Alex. :clap:

So long, and thanks for all the picks!

Discuss Thrower 05-08-2014 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 10614174)
Oh yeah, thanks for the extra 2nd rounder this year for Alex Smith. It is really going to come in handy. THANKS. ROFL

Also, when you see Tank Carradine doing his thing this season, don't forget that he was who we got with your first 2nd round pick last year for Alex. :clap:

So long, and thanks for all the picks!

You can go suck a big bag of dicks you ****ing meatpeeker.

And I say that nicely.

Strongside 05-08-2014 11:44 PM

To whoever said he needs to spend more time in the weight room, looks like he spends plenty:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh-DxXXCQAA03N0.jpg:medium

KevB 05-08-2014 11:44 PM

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports the Falcons tried to trade back into the first round to draft Auburn OLB Dee Ford before he was selected by the Chiefs at No. 23.
GM Thomas Dimitroff desperately wants to upgrade his pass rush, but the cost of moving into the early 20s would have been mountainous. Defensive lineman was clearly Dimitroff's day-one preference, but he had to settle for OT Jake Matthews after Jadeveon Clowney and Khalil Mack came off the board in the first five picks.

Discuss Thrower 05-08-2014 11:44 PM

JFC

OldSchool 05-08-2014 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 10614192)
NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports the Falcons tried to trade back into the first round to draft Auburn OLB Dee Ford before he was selected by the Chiefs at No. 23.
GM Thomas Dimitroff desperately wants to upgrade his pass rush, but the cost of moving into the early 20s would have been mountainous. Defensive lineman was clearly Dimitroff's day-one preference, but he had to settle for OT Jake Matthews after Jadeveon Clowney and Khalil Mack came off the board in the first five picks.

Ha! At least we screwed one team over. Probably two if you consider the Eagles.

Kaepernick 05-08-2014 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10614169)
Meet Dee Ford, the Chiefs’ first-round pick Meet Dee Ford, the Chiefs’ first-round pick
By TOD PALMER
The Kansas City Star

Chiefs first-round pick Dee Ford will arrive in Kansas City on Friday morning — and he can’t wait.

“I’m looking forward to seeing everyone, and I’m hoping everyone is looking forward to seeing me,” said Ford, a defensive end from Auburn. “We’re going to have some great times, man. I plan on being a Kansas City Chief forever, so no trading me.”

Ford’s enthusiasm was readily apparent during a conference call Thursday night after he was selected No. 23 overall by the Chiefs during the first round of the NFL Draft.

He was giddy talking about the phone call he received from Chiefs coach Andy Reid.

“I’m trying to not to be a fan of his,” said Ford, who watched the opening day of the draft with his family in Anniston, Ala. “He’s my head coach right now, but — good Lord — it’s Andy Reid. I was stunned, a man of character right there.”

He also was effusive in talking about the Chiefs’ fan base.

“I hear you all have the best fans,” Ford said. “I don’t know for sure, but I hear you all have the best fans in football. So, I’m definitely looking forward to that. I’m really humbled by this situation.”

Of course, Ford might have been most excited when he was asked about the prospect of replacing Pro Bowl outside linebacker Tamba Hali as a rush specialist in the Chiefs’ 3-4 scheme.

It wasn’t because Ford is eager to displace Hali, though.

“I love edge rushers,” Ford said. “I’m a big fan of Tamba Hali. I’m definitely a big fan of his.”

Instead, Ford is most eager to learn from Hali.

“I’m going to humble myself, learn from these vets and, man, we’re going to do some things,” Ford said. “I can’t measure what I’m going to do from what (Hali) did. He’s a dynamic pass-rusher. He’s so beyond me. I need to learn. That’s my No. 1 goal, be a teammate and learn.”

Asked what he needs to work on the most, Ford replied, “Everything. I’m not perfect in my pass rush or my run game. But let’s be honest, I played in the SEC and I was a starter for two years. You have to stop the run, and I was a starter. I was not a liability to my defense. I think sometimes, when your specialty is pass rush, the natural thing to do is question their ability to stop the run, because we’re getting off the ball.”

However, Ford — and Reid and general manager John Dorsey — shrugged off any concerns about his ability to handle the run-defense or pass-coverage demands of the outside-linebacker spot in the Chiefs’ system.

Ford said he spoke briefly with the Chiefs at the NFL Combine, but he hadn’t had contact beyond that and was surprised when Reid, Dorsey and defensive coordinator Bob Sutton called.

He wasn’t surprised to go in the first round, though.

“I had a great Senior Bowl, I had a great Pro Day, and things just worked out for me,” Ford said. “But I was confident I was going to be taken in the first round.”

Ford led Auburn, which won the SEC and reached the BCS National Championship Game, with 10 1/2 sacks and 14 1/2 tackles for a loss last season. He recorded 29 total tackles.

As a junior, Ford recorded six sacks and 34 tackles in 11 games after shaking off the injury bug early in his career.

Ford was limited to three games in 2011 with a back injury that required surgery and also suffered a left knee injury during the 2013 preseason.

Chiefs’ first-round pick

• WHO: Outside linebacker Dee Ford

• PICK: Round one (23rd overall)

• SCHOOL: Auburn

• HEIGHT: 6-2

• WEIGHT: 252

• 2013 STATS:
Finished with 10 1/2 sacks and 14 1/2 tackles for a loss as a defensive end for the national runner-up, Auburn. Ford also racked up 29 total tackles and an interception.

• RED FLAGS:
Ford won’t be able to drop into coverage without getting exposed — at least not without extensive coaching — and probably isn’t going to be great against the run, but he can get after the quarterback. He’s athletic, but he occasionally struggles to shed blocks and has a history of injuries.

• FUN FACT:
Ford was a star at the Senior Bowl and also made waves when he declared that he is as good of a pass-rusher as South Carolina’s Jadeveon Clowney, who was the No. 1 overall pick by the Houston Texans. In fairness, Ford’s stats and measurable — 40-yard dash time, bench press, vertical and broad jump — are comparable to Clowney’s.

• WHERE HE FITS IN:
Ford is a workmanlike edge rusher who played defensive end for Auburn. He’s a high-motor player with a great speed rush off the edge. Ford is the ready-made successor for Tamba Hali if his cap number becomes prohibitive looking toward 2015. He also provides some much-needed depth for Hali and fellow outside linebacker Justin Houston.

The young man has the perfect attitude you want in a player. Sounds like a solid pick.

Baby Lee 05-08-2014 11:48 PM

Judging from his style of play, and his strengths and weaknesses, a shit ton of Derrick Thomas footage needs brought out of storage

Kaepernick 05-08-2014 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10614181)
You can go suck a big bag of dicks you ****ing meatpeeker.

And I say that nicely.


Only if they are hanging from the limb of a flaming AIDS tree over a pool of antifreeze.

Discuss Thrower 05-08-2014 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 10614200)
Only if they are hanging from the limb of a flaming AIDS tree over a pool of antifreeze.

Pool of antifreeze that has a garnish of your mother's pubic hairs and the essence of her herpes-laden uterus that spawned the walking filth that is you.

mcaj22 05-09-2014 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 10614174)
Oh yeah, thanks for the extra 2nd rounder this year for Alex Smith. It is really going to come in handy. THANKS. ROFL

Also, when you see Tank Carradine doing his thing this season, don't forget that he was who we got with your first 2nd round pick last year for Alex. :clap:

So long, and thanks for all the picks!

yea you have to hope he does something since your best pass rusher will be sitting at home on the couch so someone has to start in his position might as well be a guy that has yet to do anything in the NFL

Valiant 05-09-2014 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 10614165)
97% of all fan bases are spoiled, impatient, demanding, knee-jerk morons who have no clue how to actually build let alone run a professional sports team.

What makes you think the Chief's have a monopoly on idiotic fans. We have our share of them in the 49ers fan base as well.

That's why they call us "fanatics". We are unreasonable, demanding, spoiled and childish most of the time.

Looking at the Chiefs past success, their fans might not do bad running a team. Could not get much worse.

OldSchool 05-09-2014 12:15 AM

Looking at it from a strictly football perspective. We needed to improve our coverage ability over last season and it is unrealistic to expect us to be able to upgrade at every position in the secondary. The next best and most efficient way to improve it? Improve the pass rush.

Ford goes a long way towards accomplishing that with his natural burst and technique.

Setsuna 05-09-2014 12:15 AM

Easley is better. Just saying.

OldSchool 05-09-2014 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 10614232)
Easley is better. Just saying.

Easley, despite all of his burst and the fact that he had great talent around him in Florida, never had more than 4 sacks in a season or more than 8.5 TFLs. He also had 2 major knee injuries in college and doesn't play the same position that Ford does.

I don't know how you can honestly say that he is better.

mszymko 05-09-2014 12:19 AM

I absolutely HATE the pick! That is unless Hali is moving to DE which some have speculated on this board, in that case I suppose it would be pretty cool to have 3 more than capable pass rushers on our front 7. But if that's not the case, I F'n hate the pick!!!

I'm against trading and or replacing ANY of our pro bowl caliber players. Why would we want to do that WTF!? If we wanna save some money I think we can do some restructuring of contracts or trim some fat elsewhere.

jonzie04 05-09-2014 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 10614232)
Easley is better. Just saying.

Dominique Easley?

RunKC 05-09-2014 12:21 AM

Letting Tamba go next year is what will happen. He's not going to be productive for long. He's going to by 32 the year he's gone (2015).
Getting that $9 million in cap space will help us out immensely next offseason.

DTLB58 05-09-2014 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 10614199)
Judging from his style of play, and his strengths and weaknesses, a shit ton of Derrick Thomas footage needs brought out of storage

Yep, Just about exact same height and weight, within 1" and a few lbs. Same with that Miller puke in Denver.
And Dorsey talked about that strong hip that's hard to find when a pass rusher gets to a certain point around the corner that he doesn't lose his balance.

booger 05-09-2014 01:15 AM

He's got good leverage too, getting under the T's pads. Not the long arms of dumervill but I see similarities

booger 05-09-2014 01:17 AM

Got the senior bowl on Dvr and never watched it yet. Don't remember if I recorded the senior bowl practices though. Watching clips on one on one rush drill would be fun to watch

carcosa 05-09-2014 01:23 AM

The name "Dee Ford" just feels destined to be forgotten. It's got no weight to it. No panache. It kind of just falls out of the mouth as if by accident. He might as well go ahead and legally change his last name to "Who?"

(This is the sort of cogent analysis and insight I hope to offer as a member of this board.)

HIChief 05-09-2014 01:35 AM

Dee Ford, The Pianist....He'll tickle your ivories, then RATTLE YOUR BACK TEETH BABY! Welcome aboard!

OldSchool 05-09-2014 01:35 AM

Dee Ford Tough.

BryanBusby 05-09-2014 01:50 AM

His reaction to the snap is ridiculously fast and I caught myself thinking how the **** was he not offsides

Quote:

His pro day show included a 35 1/2-inch vertical, 10-foot-4-inch broad jump, 29 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press and a 40-yard time of 4.53 seconds. There is something special here. Ford is a vocal and physical leader who could pay the most consistent, long-term dividends of any defensive end in this draft -- yes, including Jadeveon Clowney. He would be a steal after the middle of the first round, assuming his back in OK

R8RFAN 05-09-2014 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10613261)
Great post. Really good pick. **** the whiners.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...omer_drool.jpg

BryanBusby 05-09-2014 03:29 AM

Aw **** guys, we just drafted a middle aged woman from England.

https://twitter.com/dee_ford

Sassy Squatch 05-09-2014 03:54 AM

Damn R8ers that was weak trolling.

Coochie liquor 05-09-2014 04:23 AM

We need pass rush, and we got it. That's a win in my book. All these people crying over "didn't draft _____" or we needed to fill _____ position more. All I heard before our pick was "no o lineman" then we go defense which was our Achilles heel for 2/3 of the season and 60% of the board turns into a bunch of crying pussys. I understand everyone want this person or that person, but damn we just picked him and people are basically declaring him a bust, or putting him on the ir already. Take a breath haters. JFC!!

Easy 6 05-09-2014 05:07 AM

It was a little bit of a surprise, but I like this pick... everyone knows our LB depth sucks balls and everyone knows Hali is basically a grandpa now.

It wasnt glamorous, but it was solid.

Bootlegged 05-09-2014 05:28 AM

OMG I can't believe these asshats traded Eric Berry for a 2nd rd pick!!! AAaargggh. A DL in the first??! Stupid stupid. BLaoehawoih. We wanted Geno!!! Aoioahgoiw!

71% of Chiefsplanet = zero football knowledge.

In58men 05-09-2014 05:54 AM

I knew the highlight videos will sooner or later ROFL

kepp 05-09-2014 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 10613282)
I just kinda sat there and went...huh. OK. I guess.

Glad we at least went defense. Would have preferred safety, but we can always use pass rushers and people here have been saying Tamba is gone next year anyway. Pay Houston and hope this dude can be a Tamba i guess.

At least it wasnt' a ****ing guard.

That's basically my reaction. I would have preferred (in this order) Dennard, Ward, Lee, Ealy instead, but Ford will be good. I just think Ealy has more upside and we need DB & WR more.

Mr. Plow 05-09-2014 06:06 AM

So have we turned the corner from what a horrible pick he is to "OMG he's a future all pro!!" yet?

chiefzilla1501 05-09-2014 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 10614337)
We need pass rush, and we got it. That's a win in my book. All these people crying over "didn't draft _____" or we needed to fill _____ position more. All I heard before our pick was "no o lineman" then we go defense which was our Achilles heel for 2/3 of the season and 60% of the board turns into a bunch of crying pussys. I understand everyone want this person or that person, but damn we just picked him and people are basically declaring him a bust, or putting him on the ir already. Take a breath haters. JFC!!

The Saints drafted will Smith when they had two terrific des in Charles grant and Darren Howard.

The Giants drafted matthias kiwanuka when they already had Strahan and osi. Even with all those guys they drafted Justin tuck. Two first rounders for a team that decided to bpa instead of meeting an immediate need. What they did doesn't feel much different for what the Chiefs did. Let's just hope Ford is the right guy. At least we are gunning after impact players

Rasputin 05-09-2014 06:26 AM

Great now we got another guy to complain that get held all the time rushing the passer.

Over/under on how many times he gets held in games compared to Tamba Hali?

the Talking Can 05-09-2014 06:37 AM

not what i expected, but i'm ok with it...such a weird feeling on draft day

first, obviously, we didn't draft a ****ing OL...huge win...HUGE WIN

we drafted a pass rusher...win

I'm sure they wanted to trade down and take him later, and I'm sure our lack of a 2nd round pick influenced our decision to pull the trigger

if we have a second, maybe we go a different direction

there's risk with his injuries, but he's described as a vocal leader which we actually need, imo

i hope can get a WR in the 3rd

the Talking Can 05-09-2014 06:38 AM

the eagles took Marcus Smith in the 1st

that is a reach and makes our pick look genious by comparison

Mother****erJones 05-09-2014 06:40 AM

We couldn't get to Peyton or Rivers. Dee Ford isn't ****ing helping that. Doesn't matter he'll be hurt by week 6.

TEX 05-09-2014 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10614418)
We couldn't get to Peyton or Rivers. Dee Ford isn't ****ing helping that. Doesn't matter he'll be hurt by week 6.

That's my only concern with Ford. It would have been enough to keep me from drafting him.

Bob Dole 05-09-2014 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 10614387)
So have we turned the corner from what a horrible pick he is to "OMG he's a future all pro!!" yet?

You are posing that question to a pack of people who are still pining for Geno Smith...

ARROW2 05-09-2014 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10614418)
We couldn't get to Peyton or Rivers. Dee Ford isn't ****ing helping that. Doesn't matter he'll be hurt by week 6.



And who else should we have picked to accomplish that? Do you remember what happened when Tamba and Houston went down last year? Marinate on that. Tamba had 2 sacks the last 10 games last year, all in one game against Washington......


and quit staring at my woman's ass.....

BourbonMan 05-09-2014 07:24 AM

I really wanted Manziel. Why? Not that I think he is a great QB (I DON'T). But because it would have SHUT everybody up about how The Chiefs Never Draft a QB In The First Round.

I honestly wanted DIX, DENARD OR COOK.
The Ford pick suprised me.

Being a MIZZOU fan (I KNOW, I'LL GET A LOT OF CRAP FOR THAT), I've got to see a lot of him. He's a great pass rusher, with long arms and raw skill. He's not so good at stopping the run, but that can be taught. His stats for the Combined, were just as good as Clowney.

This wasn't a Great Pick, but it wasn't a Bad Pick either. It was to me, a Good Solid Pick...I would give it grade of a "B".

Remember, Offense gets you to the Playoffs..But DEFENSE wins Championships.

nychief 05-09-2014 07:29 AM

Dee ford was a holy terror vs Mizzou... He was great against FLAST and in the senior bowl... The consternation over adding a pass rusher is stupid.

Mother****erJones 05-09-2014 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 10614434)
And who else should we have picked to accomplish that? Do you remember what happened when Tamba and Houston went down last year? Marinate on that. Tamba had 2 sacks the last 10 games last year, all in one game against Washington......


and quit staring at my woman's ass.....

Not an injury prone one

htismaqe 05-09-2014 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10614502)
Not an injury prone one

The injuries are a concern. However, the upside is really potentially in the "special" category.

It's certainly a gamble. But so is every other player. Even guys with no college injury history sometimes spend their entire NFL career in the hot tub. It happens.

Steron 05-09-2014 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10613582)
Why couldn't we get Ray farmer as our gm he killed this draft.

They had a lot more ammunition to move around. KC was handcuffed from the start by giving 2 2nds for Smith. Not that I'm bashing Smith. I think he was totally worth the price we paid for him.

Chiefs=Champions 05-09-2014 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 10614413)
not what i expected, but i'm ok with it...such a weird feeling on draft day

first, obviously, we didn't draft a ****ing OL...huge win...HUGE WIN

we drafted a pass rusher...win

I'm sure they wanted to trade down and take him later, and I'm sure our lack of a 2nd round pick influenced our decision to pull the trigger

if we have a second, maybe we go a different direction

there's risk with his injuries, but he's described as a vocal leader which we actually need, imo

i hope can get a WR in the 3rd

Most over looked quality that he possesses. He brings an energy and swagger that the defense seriously lacks. Every great defense has that presence.

jd1020 05-09-2014 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steron (Post 10614521)
They had a lot more ammunition to move around. KC was handcuffed from the start by giving 2 2nds for Smith. Not that I'm bashing Smith. I think he was totally worth the price we paid for him.

It wouldn't have taken much to trade with the Eagles and grab Manziel. Tweets were coming out that Reid mentioned he liked him as he was inching ever so closer. It was pretty obvious that the Eagles weren't going to grab him after Foles' rookie season and that the Chiefs were the next potential suitor for a QB, but they sat with idle hands as another team made a move to grab their franchise QB.

ct 05-09-2014 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10613453)
Marquise lee would have been a bigger reach than Ford.

Mother F'ing THIS

Jesus why are people so freakin stupid. We drafted a play maker, for defense. None of the WR's or S's were near worthy @23, and Dee Ford is a far better football player than any CB on the board.

While i'd love to move back for an extra pick or two, we got a very good football player at a premium position, pass rusher, not a DLineman dumbasses.

This is NOT a reach, this is NOT a "replacement" pick, this is good value, a great football player at a premium play making position, AND a HUGE need for our team.

I swear some people bitch about the Chiefs just to hear themselves bitch. They NAILED this one! This is something to get excited about you freakin idiots!

CallMeSquidwad 05-09-2014 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ct (Post 10614548)
Mother F'ing THIS

Jesus why are people so freakin stupid. We drafted a play maker, for defense. None of the WR's or S's were near worthy @23, and Dee Ford is a far better football player than any CB on the board.

While i'd love to move back for an extra pick or two, we got a very good football player at a premium position, pass rusher, not a DLineman dumbasses.

This is NOT a reach, this is NOT a "replacement" pick, this is good value, a great football player at a premium play making position, AND a HUGE need for our team.

I swear some people bitch about the Chiefs just to hear themselves bitch. They NAILED this one! This is something to get excited about you freakin idiots!

Thank you, a few still have brains. :clap: This forum is so pathetic, give it 3 years and they'll all be completely on the other side of the fence, just like Poe.

BigMeatballDave 05-09-2014 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10614502)
Not an injury prone one

He missed, what? 3 games in 2 seasons?

Fairplay 05-09-2014 08:32 AM

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ct 05-09-2014 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10613559)
This is why the Chiefs suck and teams like the 49ers don't.

this is why you are a dingleberry

Steron 05-09-2014 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10614534)
It wouldn't have taken much to trade with the Eagles and grab Manziel. Tweets were coming out that Reid mentioned he liked him as he was inching ever so closer. It was pretty obvious that the Eagles weren't going to grab him after Foles' rookie season and that the Chiefs were the next potential suitor for a QB, but they sat with idle hands as another team made a move to grab their franchise QB.

As much as I want KC to draft a 1rst round QB I don't think this was the time to do it. Alex Smith is in his prime and will be OK for 4-5 more years. We still don't know what we have in Bray.

The more I think about it, the more I like the Ford pick. If he can stay healthy. I know it's a big 'if'.

jd1020 05-09-2014 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Steron (Post 10614573)
As much as I want KC to draft a 1rst round QB I don't think this was the time to do it. Alex Smith is in his prime and will be OK for 4-5 more years. We still don't know what we have in Bray.

Alex Smith is on contract for 1 more year. Signing him to a big money deal doesn't help this team.

staylor26 05-09-2014 08:34 AM

To the people claiming this was a reach, are you aware that it's been reported that the Falcons were trying to trade up (likely at 22 according to the same report) for Ford? The 2nd best 3-4 OLB prospect in this draft at 23 is NOT a reach.

penguinz 05-09-2014 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Steron (Post 10614573)
We still don't know what we have in Bray.
.

Yes we do... A QB that will never see the field in a meaningful game.

ct 05-09-2014 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10613683)
Tampa Hali was a "huge reach" too. I remember how much I got the piss beat out of me for defending that pick. :hmmm:

Holy crap so did I, but I was stoked about getting Hali

"but he's got no upside, he is what he is, no pass rush, he's too small" etc etc

yeah all he brought was one of the best pass rushers for several years consistently

sadly though he is fading fast, it's time for help, and dee ford is gonna bring it!!

Just Passin' By 05-09-2014 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CallMeSquidwad (Post 10614558)
Thank you, a few still have brains. :clap: This forum is so pathetic, give it 3 years and they'll all be completely on the other side of the fence, just like Poe.

I was drooling about Poe. I wanted the Patriots to find a way to get him.

Ford? He (along with Easley) is an excellent candidate to be a bust due to medical issues.

Baby Lee 05-09-2014 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ct (Post 10614583)
Holy crap so did I, but I was stoked about getting Hali

"but he's got no upside, he is what he is, no pass rush, he's too small" etc etc

yeah all he brought was one of the best pass rushers for several years consistently

sadly though he is fading fast, it's time for help, and dee ford is gonna bring it!!

Tamba worked out, Tampa Hali not so much

Lightrise 05-09-2014 08:45 AM

Just read article about likely top 10 busts in round one. An interesting read and compelling argument. Ford is not on that list. I sense the Chiefs have had trouble, or, are nervous about contract restructures here. I would have traded this years #1 last season to Cleveland for Gordon. We wouldn't have lost both Charger games, we would have won the division, played at home, and perhaps, well you know. This wouldn't have been my pick, even though I would have dumped Hali last year. This club needs some money now so when Manning does quit this division is ours. It is sensible to see what they have in Commings, and Kelce too. It's also sensible to prepare for after-Hali rather than leave a hole and pick Dennard, who Manning would undoubtedly baptize anyway. I agree with the guy who said show this kid Derricks highlights. You never know. I wouldn't mind trying to trade Flowers and dump some more salary. Hopefully we can find a guard in the 3rd, Jenkins blossoms and we can pick up some scraps at the end of preseason. What the hell happened to Nico Johnson anyway? Perhaps in the 5th round we can find the next Richard Sherman?

On a positive note, Matt Cassel will have a clean uniform.

ct 05-09-2014 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10613942)
Sorry man. It sucks but I doubt we'll get to pick in round 2 tomorrow unless we do trade Berry.

I think a DB and WR will be the pick with our 3rd and 4th round picks.

this, totally this

DO NOT trade Berry!

htismaqe 05-09-2014 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Steron (Post 10614573)
As much as I want KC to draft a 1rst round QB I don't think this was the time to do it. Alex Smith is in his prime and will be OK for 4-5 more years.

Alex Smith is on a 1-year deal. If he gets paid $20M per, this team is DEAD.

There will never be a BETTER time to draft a QB.

That being said, Ford was a fine pick. They didn't take a QB. Now it's up to them to get Smith signed and to a contract that actually allows the team to continue to improve.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steron (Post 10614573)
We still don't know what we have in Bray.

Please, give it up. Guy will never see the field.

ct 05-09-2014 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 10613993)
This is what's bothering me right now. This pick would be worth it's weight in gold if we cut ties with Hali and got a pick out of him. But from the looks of it, the Chiefs want him playing on the line his last year...

Perhaps it is possible they move him down on the line, since he really only has a bull rush anyway, and resign for a far lower cap number.

htismaqe 05-09-2014 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 10614588)
Tamba worked out, Tampa Hali not so much

I ****ing hate Apple's autocorrect.

ct 05-09-2014 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10614004)
I don't think they could have.

Look at who was picked at 26.

I bet Philly isn't very happy.

zactly!! Philly got screwed and reached FAR for the next best pass rusher.

Marcellus 05-09-2014 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10614534)
It wouldn't have taken much to trade with the Eagles and grab Manziel. Tweets were coming out that Reid mentioned he liked him as he was inching ever so closer. It was pretty obvious that the Eagles weren't going to grab him after Foles' rookie season and that the Chiefs were the next potential suitor for a QB, but they sat with idle hands as another team made a move to grab their franchise QB.

No they didn't sit idle.

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/09...to-taking.html

|Zach| 05-09-2014 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10614534)
It wouldn't have taken much to trade with the Eagles and grab Manziel. Tweets were coming out that Reid mentioned he liked him as he was inching ever so closer. It was pretty obvious that the Eagles weren't going to grab him after Foles' rookie season and that the Chiefs were the next potential suitor for a QB, but they sat with idle hands as another team made a move to grab their franchise QB.

Is that what happened?

jd1020 05-09-2014 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10614651)

Talk is cheap.

Why when asked if you would have taken Manziel would you not have deflected and said we got our guy?

jd1020 05-09-2014 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 10614657)
Is that what happened?

That's exactly what happened. Browns went out and got their guy instead of hoping fate landed him in their laps. He might bust in the NFL, but you know who will eventually find a franchise QB first? The Browns.

Mr. Kotter 05-09-2014 09:17 AM

I'm hoping he turns out to be something in between Houston and DT...:hmmm:

I'd be pretty happy with that...

Steron 05-09-2014 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10614641)
Alex Smith is on a 1-year deal. If he gets paid $20M per, this team is DEAD.

There will never be a BETTER time to draft a QB.

That being said, Ford was a fine pick. They didn't take a QB. Now it's up to them to get Smith signed and to a contract that actually allows the team to continue to improve.



Please, give it up. Guy will never see the field.

You're right. I am assuming they get Smith signed. If not, oh boy.

Bray is the poster boy for 'million dollar arm, ten cent head'. I still hold out hope he could amount to something. It could be worse, I guess. Alex Tanney and Brodie Croyle could still be on the roster.....

ARROW2 05-09-2014 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10614689)
That's exactly what happened. Browns went out and got their guy instead of hoping fate landed him in their laps. He might bust in the NFL, but you know who will eventually find a franchise QB first? The Browns.

We'll see.......

OldSchool 05-09-2014 09:21 AM

My only real issue with Ford is whether or not he can stay healthy for an entire NFL season. All of our OLBs are going to benefit from more of a rotation though.

Simply Red 05-09-2014 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 10613254)
Hali isn't here much longer. These 2 drafts say this new regime is rebuilding and moving on from big contracts.

Hell even the ones they signed can be cut after this season even Bowe...

we have Jeff L bud.


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