LMAO

Good ****ing God, why do you keep doubling down on stupid?

Read the article.

"I DID IT. I NEED HELP!".

Dude, what the ****?

So disappointing that Clark would even sign off on this. Don't care if he runs a 4.2 40.
He's a huge risk and Jovan Belcher should have immediately came to Clark's mind.

Imagine the players that were at the event when we drafted this kid. Do you think ANY fan is going to like him being anywhere near a public event like that, or charity events, etc in the future?

This has already exploded in their face and this kid hasn't even stepped foot in the building yet.

Claiming "I did it" doesn't mean I did everything she claims in her statement. I'm curious why the DA wouldn't show the Chiefs the pictures.

You ****ing idiot. If you bring signs like that to camp I hope someone slaps you until you see mannings plane landing in Kansas City.

ROFL zomg

So many here are so close to the Chiefs that this has had a great affect on them. I suspect the anti Hill faction holds the Chiefs closer to their hearts than those who support his selection.

Personally, it's a very violent sport. There is bound to be violent men participating. I accept that. But one strike only from here on out.

Is Andy the guy to straighten him out? He has that reputation.

LMAO

Pretty much. I'd like to know who his agent is. Hold a presser with the agent. Let the media ask if he's going to drop him if he screws up. Same with the team.

I'd like to hear his plan out of his mouth. I'd never do anything like this but if I put myself in his shoes and I've truly changed and want to grow up and be a good man people will respect I outline a plan of X amount of signing bonus goes to my child and his mothers needs. They are priority #1 to make sure they are taken care of. % of weekly check goes to them too. He pays for both their healthcare. Donates to domestic violence victims and prevention programs. Will spend days off (typically Tuesdays during the season) talking with abusers and sharing his problems. When a councelor feels he's ready have a goal to become a mentor to abusers wanting to change and defeat they're cowardly demons.

And this can't be some speech wrote by his agent or the team. If it's me and I've got this opportunity to provide for and make this kind of money I'm going to do every in my power to walk the walk of changing. I'm going to tell them all I'm going to prove im not some kind of monster or idiot with anger issues.

Let the kid speak about his plan going forward. No excuses about the past. Tell them from the heart if that's how he really feels. Something like that takes guts and if I was him(I'm not a ****ing coward) I would really think something like this would only help. Maybe be given some slack to prove myself. Short of this I just don't understand taking the risk with this kid. Is it too much to ask to have him introduce himself and lay out a plan of action? It would be a requirement before I even thought about drafting him

:D

But holy shit, I won this thread.

It wasn't even a TKO, it was George Foreman vs. Smokin' Joe Frazier.

My opinion hasn't changed from Saturday to Sunday to Monday: Cut him immediately.

I DO NOT want this guy on my team.

Period, end of story.

ROFL

Dane's Peacocking. Strut your stuff man. :D

Normally, I wouldn't care.

But JFC, did I fight this bullshit or what?

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.

And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

I'm guessing a few kick return touchdowns and domestic violence charity later everyone will love this pick LMAO

Remember how clean and family oriented bill cosbys show was and we all see how that turned out. People **** up so he question is was it a moment or a pattern.

Can't wait for this guy to finally get on the field.. He's going to split this place in half once Toub gets his hands on him.

Who are you?

I don't even know who you are and you are trying to cyber-bully.

Cyber-bullying is almost as bad as domestic violence.

Would you lose your career if your colleagues knew you behaved like that?

:facepalm:

This is an entertainment entity. This is a game. The better the talent, the better the product, the better the entertainment. The characters that provide this talent will not always be stand up citizens. Occasionally the top talent will come with bottom character. Sometimes you have to accept the bottom character for top product. Quit bitching, and realize you're complaining about other grown men that aren't ideal citizens playing a game you enjoy to observe.

If he ends up sucking and not contributing to the team, he will be gone and you can continue to believe that should've been the move all along because that's how you wanted it. Until then, hope that Hill ends up being the type of player Dorsey thought he was, someone who would make all of the baggage Hill brought with him be worth it. Because that's his job. Bring the best talent to the team, so they perform the best, so you can be entertained to the highest possible point.

blah....blah....blah....They picked him, accept it.



Otherwise, go become a Faider, Donkey or sparkler fan

:facepalm:

Hill was drafted because he has high end talent as a returner and a gadget guy, so he replaces Davis and DAT and was given another chance because he admitted guilt and did what he could to get help so he improves as a person and doesn't repeat mistakes.

I wouldn't have drafted him.

Not in a million years.

But with a staff trying to win a title, they took a chance on this kid and hopefully, he donates a chunk of his $ to programs that help battered women and takes care of his responsibilities for his child. Maybe even starts his own foundation to try and right a terrible wrong.

He has an opportunity here that IMO he shouldn't have gotten...hopefully he makes the best of it.

Idiot

Tyreek Hill haha what a name.

If he sucks I could say Ty "Reek" Hill

On a bit of a tangent.....

Originally I was against attempting to sign Eric Berry to a long term contract (tagging him was great, I just wasn't sure that I'd want to continue paying top dollar for a safety). Anyway, with this last draft class in mind, I'm starting to think that having guys like Berry, DJ, Tamba, etc around has become significantly more important. This draft class needs to be introduced into how the Chiefs conduct themselves (on and off the field), and having role models such as those guys will no doubt assist in this process.

That said, it's not up to the veteran Chiefs to ensure that this class behaves in a civil manner. It's up to each of the draftees to do it. They've got to want to become better people and better football players. If they don't come to this realization in rather quick fashion, they will have totally ****ed up a wonderful, God-given opportunity, and they'll be toast (or probably worse).

Lotta headache for a 5th round return specialist.

Seems like a dumb ****ing idea.

He's Dane.
He's Dane. He is trying to cyber bully DenverChief, LoneWolf, or anyone else that disagrees with him on this topic.
No, it's not. It's not at all.
No, he wouldn't. Is he going to fire himself?

Hey, I thought we were a genderless society and there is no difference between the sexes.....yeah right, that is bullshit and we all know it. The minute you are even accused of touching a woman, you are tainted. I was taught to not hit females and I agree with that line of thinking, no matter what agenda is out there to make us all the same. Sorry, can't change what the creator made into something else...BRUCE. But I digress.

I just get the feeling that if there was strong evidence that this dude really did what this woman said he did, he wouldn't have been offered a deal. I also get from reading up on this that he ran out of money to sustain his original "not guilty" plea and took the safe route, even though it would attach the word "guilty" to it and get him kicked off the team rather than risk going through a historically biased court system that was not set up to be fair to minorities (with a public defender, mind you...what a joke), particularly black males, especially when accused of doing something to a woman, a white woman at that. Let's keep it 100 on here.

Most of us wouldn't do what he is accused of doing but the reality is, we don't know 100% what happened and a lot of you on here may have done the same thing if you had limited $$$ to fight the charges. Why did the other school take him in if he was a monster?

All you have to do is grab a woman's arms to keep her from hitting you and you can be brought up on charges because her arms bruised. Be careful when talking from your high horse. Anybody can get caught up in some BS.

A female told me once that if her boyfriend pissed her off, she would bite her lip and call the cops on him. Be careful all of you holier than thou folks. Not saying that is what happened but just know that it is crazy out here.


Time will tell with Hill but even if he keeps clean, you won't like him anyway. Even if he goes on to being an ordained minister. In fact, hasn't it already been about two years since the actual incident?

The other school took him in for the same reason the Chiefs did: they care more about improving their football team than their humanity.

To the rest of your brain-dead screed, no one has ever suggested that there wasn't a physical difference between men and women, and anyone who has moved beyond the cave as a suitable shelter should understand that striking someone who is significantly smaller and weaker than you is the act of a Grade A shitbag.

Also, I would suggest seeking out a psychiatrist to help collate the five different voices that vomit from your head simultaneously.

Lotta headache? Doubt they care what message boards think... They answer a couple uncomfortable questions, then business as usual.

ROFLROFL

Clark Hunt is literally one regime removed from a message board making a national laughingstock of his franchise.

Don't think for one minute that they aren't concerned about what the chat boards, social media and radio fans are saying about the team.

And that doesn't even get into the fact that every single person that signed off on this pick will almost certainly be fired if he does have a DV incident. So they get that sword hanging over their heads.

And for what? If they really wanted a returner that badly, they should've snagged Trevor Davis right ahead of GB; Davis could've even contributed as a WR at some point.

This pick was ****ing stupid, it IS a headache and it was made due to the same arrogance that led to a wrongheaded draft to begin with. Dorsey's pretty sure he has all the answers right now so he just didn't think this one through adequately. He ****ed up.

So............. you did not like the draft?

If he has a DV incident, cut him and that is that. Nobody else has to lose their jobs. HE is the one that would be in trouble and blew his chance. That is strictly up to Tyreek. You would think we drafted Ike Turner and Lawrence Phillips all rolled into one.

Ok, here's a rumor I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend who has Chiefs connections (which of course makes it nothing more than an unsubstantiated rumor). However, it does have the ring of something that might actually be true. Here's the "story"....

Apparently, Hill and his girlfriend argued quite a bit in the past and in fact the police were called to the residence a few weeks before this incident. Anyway, the day of the incident, they again got into another argument. This time it related to the fact that she said she was leaving him and going to take the kid with her. Obviously he wanted to be around his kid, so he was upset. Anyway, the argument apparently escalated and then she dropped the bombshell on him: it wasn't his kid, and furthermore the father was a "buddy" of his who he had invited over on prior occasions to stay with them. I guess emotions got the better of Hill and this was when he headlocked/choked her and such.

Hmmmmmm....not sure what to make of this, and like I said, it's simply a rumor, but it does kinda makes sense with what Hill was saying about choosing better friends, and it does lend some credence to an unfortunate emotional over-reaction (to say the least). Nonetheless, to find out that it's not your kid, and then find out that it was your "buddy's" kid, well, that's gotta be a little hard to digest.

Additionally, the provider of this story also said that Hill's background had indicated that he was a good guy, well liked, no drugs, etc.

Whoa! Not suggesting that this "clears" the kid of wrong-doings, but if this was more or less what happened, it does provide a bit of ammunition for a......ummmmm....."abnormal" reaction? It also might provide a little background as to why Dorsey/Reid said they couldn't/wouldn't comment further as it is a bit of a messy story involving folks not associated with the Chiefs.

Anyway, make what you like of this rumor. Just thought I'd share what I heard today.

Choking the baby momma wasn't the first incident.



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White trash! I bet he wears stained wife-beaters and shops at Wal Mart.

Apparently, not his baby mama......"Tyreek, you are NOT the father!!"




How would you feel if you found out that I am currently doing......er......I mean....oops....was hypothetically doing ya girl? She told me not to tell you, damn....

I can hear her now...."Tah reek, it's not even yers, it's Billay Bob's...See, I was at his trailer one naahhght...."

Did Tyreek Hill delete his Twitter account and start another one, because that screen shot is not from his current Twitter account?

Of course it wasn't.

You don't go from upstanding guy who respects women to choking out your girlfriend and punching her in the face.

The guy had at least dabbled in abusing women in the past.

We've all been angry and most of us have been damn angry at a woman. I'm betting that most of us have never laid a hand on one. It takes a certain sort of piece of shit to get there and you have to have that element pretty much ingrained in you.

Phillips and Turner?

What the **** man? Only black dudes can beat women?

Racist.

I heard Ricky Ricardo beat the shit out of Lucy on the regular

He has a new FB account. I don't know where/how the OSU blog got the screengrab from that account but I see little reason to doubt it's veracity.

Wonder what the thought process was in picking this loser. He better be Hester/Hall or the risk/reward wasn't worth it.

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ROFLROFLROFL

This happened to a good friend of mine way back in 1999. He and his ex-wife couldn't stop bangin', even though they were divorced and both had significant others all the time. One day, she announces that she's pregnant with their child and is moving back home to Hawaii. Even though he had a lot of opportunity in LA, he followed suit because he wanted to raise the child.

So, he's in Hawaii for three years, meets a girl and the wife gets re-married. She moves to Louisiana, while my friend and his girlfriend again follow suit. They were there at the onset of Katrina when they all decided to move to Missouri.

The ex-wife divorces the guy and quickly marries another guy (I think she's been married like 7 or 8 times). My friend had enough and took her to court in order to get full custody. During the trial, she said "The baby's not even yours!". Six weeks later, a DNA test confirmed that it was not his child.

The guy moved to three different states, gave up careers and jobs to be near a child he thought was his and spent 7 years of his life taking care of her. Did he react violently? Absolutely not. He and the girl packed up and headed back to Cali. He still keeps in touch with the girl he thought was his daughter and she still calls him dad to this day.

Not everyone is a ****ing lunatic psycho.

Here's an interesting article on Chiefs Digest regarding the vetting the Chiefs did on Hill:

http://www.chiefsdigest.com/chiefs-v...yne-county-da/

Sounds like he was pretty clean prior to this incident, and that he handled his transgression about as well as you could.

Sorry to hear that your buddy had to go through something like that. Nonetheless, I guess we're gonna have to agree to disagree. I don't the kid is a ****ing lunatic psycho. I think he's a guy who made a bad mistake and is making honest efforts to correct his behavior.

Where is the outrage for Johnny Football? I bet he gets signed and plays.

I'm sorry....what?

Did you just ask whether or not people despise Johnny Manziel?

Are you the same dumbshit that was arguing that people love Manziel but hate Cam Newton so they must be racist?

Because people ****ing HATE Johnny Manziel and good luck finding anyone that would want that shithead on this team (apart from the dude that jacks off hogs for a living).

I just realized it's Tuesday. I always try to do a little wife choking on Tuesday evenings. I'll be back later.

I guarantee that guy has abused dozens of bags of potato chips and had his asshole abused several times by several different men.

LOTS of people Love Johnny Football dumbass !

A&M fans and porcine pleasurers, all...

But seriously, you're putting us on now, right? You aren't still defending this shitheel are you? Are you just doubling down on your 2013 predictions of greatness?

For the record, you've fast become one of the absolute most useless posters on this site.

You're completely incapable of providing any kind of substantive comment or reasoned analysis. You're just a straight up ball-washer and not even a terribly interesting one at that.

We get it - if 'dorse' did it, it's perfect and it's all sunshine and rainbows. Just put it in your ****ing signature already and just post a little down arrow every time. You'd save us all the trouble of reading the post, wading through all that inane drivel and then realizing it was just lonewolf jizzing on his keyboard again.

ROFL I'm looking directly at your sig

2013 Adopt a chief AJ JENKINS

Well yes, but I will acknowledge that AJ Jenkins sucks.

But he had a career year under my sponsorship...

(I honestly forgot I had a signature)

Penzed.

Nobody is saying throw away the key on him and that he should be in jail for 10-15 years and never play. All I hear is "If he can get the help he needs...blah..blah, he is talented...." Can't deny the double standard. Cam dances and he is despised, Johnny Rehab can go upside a female's head, multiple times, get ****ed up, etc. and you will never hear the type of vitriol you hear for other players. I remember when that swimmer got caught in a pic smoking the strange vegetation, it was "Ahhh, he was just trying to have fun and relax after winning all of those medals, give the kid a break...." Black dude? THUG!!!!!!!! It is what it is.

This year's SB was divided down those lines on who people wanted to win and all I see is non-blacks dabbing all over the place now...LOL!! Von Miller and Co. got to grab their crotches and hump the air all they wanted simply because they were on good ole pey pey's team, while Carolina was viewed as a bunch of arrogant assholes. We ALL know that Denver has a LOT of arrogant assholes on their team, but they got a pass because of the way the SB was painted.

:deevee: for god's sake man...

You're only hearing what you want to hear, sir.

There are PLENTY of people that don't want to see Johnny Manziel in the NFL ever again and I'm squarely in that group.

And the moment the tenor of that conversation shifted radically was when he hit his girlfriend. And I'd imagine the same people that are defending this guy by saying his girlfriend was some mouthy bitch that probably provoked him were also saying the same about Manziel.

Same with the pot shit - NOBODY cares about pot anymore except for a handful of decisionmakers in the NFL that don't want their guy getting suspended. Yeah, people called Tunsil an idiot because c'mon man, keep that shit buried until after the draft. They didn't call him a thug because of pot, they called him an idiot because of timing. And after it came out that he was probably hacked, people were largely sympathetic (and found the whole story increasingly bizarre). As for Phelps, he wasn't looking at getting drafted by the NFL. He wasn't worried about a suspension for recreational drug use. He was 4 years away from any kind of competitive environment. Nobody gave a shit because there truly was no consequence for it.

By most accounts, Hali's suspension was for recreational usage; anybody go around calling Hali a thug? Of course not. Who rode Houston's ass after his positive test? Nobody; we were excited about getting him in the third.

Because popping positive for a pot test? That's a mistake.

Beating your pregnant girlfriend? That's being an irredeemable mother****er and yes, a thug. I still hope the ****er wrecks his knee and never plays a down.

More Cam Newton jerseys were sold last year than any other jersey in the NFL. Dude's Q-Score is off the charts.

I guess black people must really love buying jerseys, eh?

Or maybe, just maybe, this whole 'White America hates Cam Newton' thing is absolute bullshit.

Did you check into the situation? Again, if this was habitual or even close to being as bad as the accuser said it was, he wouldn't have been offered that deal at all. Even the DA admits that. My reference to the ganja is that every time an unarmed black is shot, it is mentioned that it was in his system, same with Sandra Bland and they are demonized for it. As far as sports, if you can play, someone will give you a chance. Hoping dude wrecks his knee is a little extreme. I would have loved for us to take a chance on Johnny and see what reaction we get on here.

So if he starts as the primary KR and is housing them on the regular, will you be pissed off?

He said he hit her. He has flat out admitted to doing so.

He just suggested he had a justification for doing it. That's pretty ****ed up.

And regardless of what he does on the field, I will be rooting for him to fail. I will not cheer when he receives and I will continue to lose respect for this organization every time they allow him to don their uniform.

Your football team is little more than laundry; you should at least be able to respect the men wearing it.

It's interesting to me to see the difference of opinion on this vs the berry situation a few years ago. Iirc, you were a proponent of not paying him if he doesn't play because it's a business.

Now in a different situation they should be morally sound in decision making.

Not that either of those opinions are wrong, just that these social opinions and stuff of this nature has always been interesting to me.

Somewhat like people excusing this but holding firm on that. Sociology is a crazy thing to me.

True; tough to reconcile that. Ultimately I have a little girl; don't have cancer.

I've always said that I suck at empathy - this is probably one of those times. If I can't relate to you, I probably can't gin up much concern for you; definitely something of a character flaw (well...it's not, but I'm told that I'm supposed to say that it is).

I can't relate at all to the guy that hits women. But I'm not too terribly far removed from having an occasionally crazy pregnant woman in my house and not too terribly far away from having a constantly crazy teenage girl in my house. The idea of hitting either of them is absolutely batshit to me so it's easier for me to tell that guy to **** right off.

Again...I just don't do empathy.

Yeah, pretty much where I'm at.

I've never been in a position that hitting a women came to mind, I can't relate to that either.

I will root for the laundry not the asshat in it.

That's all that matters. We all want to win. To my knowledge, I haven't seen him on any police blotters prior to or after this situation. Let's see what happens. If he helps us win and stays out of trouble, what's the problem?

I'm pretty sure that comment would make a psychologist shoot milk out of their nose. Or whatever liquid psychologists drink while browsing Internet forums. ;)

For the record, I couldn't care less what your opinion of me on this website is.

You're so far up your own ass on this issue that I find your reaction and opinion hilarious. Your upset with the Chiefs draft because they selected players that you, in your completely uninformed, useless opinion, have deemed as not worthy of their selection status. You've let your anger at the draft cloud your reason.

As for Hill, I simply don't believe that the story is exactly as this woman has stated. I understand that you do, and that is your right, but I've seen too many crazy women attempt to push men into a bad reaction because they know that they can get away with it. This doesn't excuse his actions, whatever they were, but IMO he deserves a chance to fulfill his dream. My opinion isn't based off of the team that drafted him. If he had been drafted by Oakland or Denver I would feel the same way.

Anyway, have a great evening. You seem like a really nice guy and completely reasonable (not really, but I'm supposed to say that). :D

Well said.

Regardless of what led up to him hitting and choking his pregnant girlfriend, he still hit and choked his pregnant girlfriend.

Therefore, he's a piece of shit.

Therefore, I hate that the Chiefs drafted him.

Therefore, I hope he blows out his knee in practice and then breaks his parole while in rehab, so I never have to watch a piece of human excrement play on a Sunday for the Chiefs.

I also hope his cellie in prison is Ramsay Bolton. That'll sort him.

I hope he makes the pro bowl as a returner.....

There will be an Outside the Lines special on Hill in about 30 minutes. Should shed some light on everything.

Ah yes, the NFL PR's arm, the same network that gave Greg Hardy a day to bounce from program to program while denying all culpability, will surely pull the curtains back and show us all what we're missing here.

ESPN hasn't had a shred of journalistic credibility in a decade and whatever dying embers of professionalism still existed were doused by Greg Hardy pissing all over them (if they weren't already extinguished by Schefter asking if the NFL was lenient enough w/r/t Ray Rice).

ESPN can go take a beating from Tyreek Hill.

So ESPN is going to go all out to protect lil old 5th round pick Tyreek....OK

The man is going to run one back, with 4 seconds on the clock and down by 6, to end the Superbowl (pending PAT).

And we will cheer our Gladiator and buy his Jersey. Children will be consummated that night and they will be named Tyreek. Or Ty if they are white.

I doubt anybody will be upset at that very moment. After 47 years