Yep

a negative x a negative is a positive

jay cutler x kc chiefs = profit???

I had to wait several days before I watched any highlights. And the NBC broadcast didn't give this enough replay. That overhead angle.... man.

Or "we need better receivers" (than the ones that always get open)

Or "we need a better O-line" (when half the time Alex is running away from ghosts)


The excuses for the guy never stop. Pretty much just have to watch the games and its right there.

Gigabytes

You must miss being 2-14

You think Denver fans said the same thing when they fired Fox after 4 division titles in a row then they won the super bowl?

You really are one of the more useless posters amongst he old farts on this forum. No one has said he's needed more receivers. In fact, Smith played quite well down the stretch despite his number one receiver playing very mediocre. Unlike last season, our receivers decided this season to be the second worst in dropped passes

My biggest problem with Smith has always been pocket presence. He doesn't step away and make plays. Even Chase Daniel was vastly superior in this aspect when he stepped in. He panics, scrambles and despite his mobility has zero ability to throw on the run. It's shock8ng when he completes a pass when a play breaks down. This last loss wasn't all his fault, the whole offense blew, but it's time to move on or at least groom a replacement. He's good enough to get you there, but he's not good enough to win these games.

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Chase Daniel??? ROFL

ROFL

Can I just go with numbers are hard?

And assholes like you are the reason why this forum is going to shit. kccrow is a valuable member of the forum who brings good insight, whereas you're a useless **** and a waste of oxygen.

The team has no room for error with Alex. I mean FFS the 6 of the last 8 losses were with the defense giving up 19 or fewer points.

This offense is set up perfectly for a young QB to come in and have success. Top 10 pass blocking OL, Kelce, Maclin, Hill, Conley, Ware.

What is the earliest we can plan on Smith being cut, released, concussion, etc....

How much longer til gone?

i would guess we keep him on for next year, then move on.

who know, though. i honestly wouldnt be surprised if we traded him this offseason. i dont think itd be hard to trade him for a pick, teams are always desperate for qbs. plenty will be this offseason.

maybe if we all ignore him hell go away

you know like that episode of south park where they all ignore cartman and he thinks he died taking a shit

The remaining of the'long time' posters are the problem. The good posters have left but will return when this group of imbeciles stop loitering

To BOTH of you...

Just because you disagree with "his side" of the smith argument does not make him any less useful than you.

Gonna be a tough day for Chiefs fans watching Brady easily rip apart the Steelers pathetic secondary like any average downfield QB can do.

Hell Matt Moore barely missed 300 yards passing going 29/36 and having a 98 QB rating while Alex couldn't do anything.

You're as big of an asshole as he is.

My ****ing memory.

It happened this season. He got scrambled, he asked to sit the next week. Andy Reid did he didn't have a concussion.

I can't believe you don't remember

Here's another https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...android-att-us

There was never any threat to his job, so why not take some time off?

Chiefs had the second-worst passing performance in the postseason this year by YPA, third-worst by YPG, fourth-worst by QB rating.

http://i.imgur.com/mihzfkU.jpg

For someone who has been in the league as long as he has, he's in some pretty pathetic company there.

Connor Cook?
ROFL

Remember when Chief fans laughed at Brock Assweiler?

MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?
 

Smith is not a bad quarterback. He's not an elite quarterback. He is somewhere in the middle. Smith is what he is. The debates that echo on endlessly have truth to both sides. That is what I am tired of. Smith is mediocre and limited. He will win you games but also lose you games. A lot of Smiths wins are because of the defense or special teams. Thanks for the stability and the wins you have given us but It's time to move on. Get a guy in the draft and let smith play out this year maybe even next but let's ****ing move on.

No one gives two shits about your cherry-picked stats in a pathetic, uneducated attempt to discredit the QB. The team finished with the 3rd best record in the NFL despite half of its top 6 paid players doing close to nothing the entirety of the season.

Why the old geezers on the board can't accept this is beyond my understanding.

Looking at Smith's numbers (QBR continues to rise, completion % has risen, sack rate has dropped dramatically) and understanding most NFL quarterbacks peak heading into their mid 30's, we have more to look forward to then people realize. He can still run for the yards, but he's done a pretty solid job playing from the pocket compared to previous years. One offseason with Tyreek/conley and with Maclin getting his head straight, they are going to be a dangerous offense.

Nice post.... Yes it's time to move on. We're in year 4 with a declining offense with mediocrie QB production....

At some point you cut your losses and strive to get better.

Keep dreaming Reerun, Smith is here to stay for AT LEAST 1 more year.

Also, how is that search for a hobby? or even a job?

I think the Chiefs can win with Smith it's just going to be harder to win than other teams with great QBs. People do forget that it's always the Elite QBs in this league that you have to defeat in the playoffs and it's tough to do. There is a reason these same ass hats are in these games every year. If we can be 90-95 percent healthy one of these years we can do it with Smith. That's what it will take to over come a better QB in the playoffs because smith is never going to be a Ben/Brady/Aaron. If we had a healthy Houston, Charles l and all the d we were missing man I think we have it this year.

Winning with Alex is impossible when you face a good team in the playoffs. The entire team has to be pro bowl quality for Alex to win.

Oh yeah I forgot...it was a damn talented team that Alex ****ed up by being a pussy and not throwing to wide open receivers

didnt you get the memo

its everyones fault

except alex

Oh yes.
I give two shits. Numbers are fun!

There aren't enough "weapons" in the entire NFL to make up for a scurrrrrd bitch QB.

Can't wait for the release day; YUGE party on CP.

will have to keep tigger on suicide watch

Against playoff teams (6 games) the Chiefs offense averaged 15.8 points a game this year.

Smith averaged 233 passing yards per game, 2 rushing yards per game, and 0.83 TD per game (with 2 of his 5 TDs coming in garbage time against PIT).

It couldn't be more clear where the Chiefs problem lies.

Alex Smith 41-20 in 4 seasons (.67 win pct)
Trent Green as a Chief 48-40 (.55 win pct)

See the difference?

Can't win football games if your team forces just 1 punt and the opposing RB tallies 170 yards.

Im still laughing.

Smiths issues doesn't make Brock any better.

Really? Cause I'm pretty sure Smith played well enough to beat the Giants in 2011 (meanwhile Rodgers lost to that defense throwing 55% on a QB rating of 77). Smith also beat the Saints/Brees in what was a shootout. Dwayne Bowe lost us the game in Indy.

So your inane comments are unfound and this is why no one besides your gang of old farts think you're a quality poster.

That excuse didn't work for Rodgers or Dak last week... they just kept firing back despite their defense's shortcomings. And they were giving up actual touchdowns.

Give Smith Trent Green's defense and the Chiefs are picking in the top 10 every year.

You have no clue what you are discussing.

You going to become a Chiefs fan again then? ROFL

I am stunned with all the defense bashing. Only forced one punt is a fair criticism but give me a break. Pitt had zero td's and that is damn good enough to win if Smith is even and average QB. He is by far the reason our offense is sorry as hell.

I remember what happened but I never heard that Smith asked for the week off. I heard Reid say that he was holding Smith out though. HUGE difference there.

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Indeed. Chiefs defense really propped ol' Smithy up quite a bit this season. Then, when they couldn't create points and turnovers against a team with a true franchise QB, the Chiefs defense and special teams "just weren't getting it done" in the eyes of spoiled Smithtards, yes.

Silly.

Defense wins championships.

So one game between two teams with high offensive power in a playoff game...there HAS to be a winner. And because one of those teams wins you understand the fallacy of saying "a high-powered offense can make up for anything".

Dag , it's going to be a long two years of waiting on the sidelines. you can relive those previous 7 seasons where we averaged 5 wins a season.

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Passing TDs of the last 17 Super Bowl winning teams:

19
34
27
22
29
31
34
19
23
31
21
29
23
23
21
20
42

Average: 26.3

You can't win a Super Bowl with a guy throwing 15 TD passes.

I can out wait Smith, NO problem. Thing is, it won't be that long of a wait regardless of what those voices in your head keep telling you.

And that was @ Shitsburg, Alex couldn't do it in front of the home crowd!!

Of course you can, and we should've.

Yeah, I don't know what we're going to do if we ever get away from winning 11 games a year but not having a chance to win the SB. That'd be too bad.

Smith total TD's as a dual-threat QB over the last 4 seasons (20, 22, 19, 24) is in the neighborhood of the vast majority of those TD counts you want to post

You make it sound like he's off by an entire standard deviation. Your football takes are shit. Accept that and stop embarrassing yourself.

Did you read the link?

I don't care if Reid said he held him out, ANY coach would do that. Reid also took the blame for several interceptions this season, do you believe that too?

Read the link where Alex said he was involved in the decision and only has one brain.

He held himself out of that game for not having a concussion. I don't see how it's even debatable

why do ppl even give him attention lmao

Unfamiliar territory we're in. You know. After 11 seasons of dog shit we are now fielding squads that can play with the best in the most competitive era of football. But somehow you don't want to recognize that our highest paid veterans aren't giving us production (Tamba, Houston, Charles, Maclin) ...

But blame the QB despite the fact his efficiency continues to climb..

Leave the management to Dorsey.

That's apples to oranges, add in all those qbs rushing tds and see where they are at you disingenuous ****.

Yeah I read the link. Anyone with half a brain with common sense knows that Smith was concussed and the team held him out.

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F**k his damn efficiency. The only efficiency I see is he is very consistent in missing wide-open TD opportunities.

Talk about 'hidden touchdowns'. That's what they should have meant. All the ones that he leaves on the field.

They sold out to stop Jay Ajayi (4.9 ypc this season), one of the best RB"s in the league and held him to 2.1 ypc in that playoff game...They knew matt moore was going to shit the bed when the game was on the line.

Did you watch the game? I will go with....NO.

So even at his best (2013), Smith isn't even reaching the NFL AVERAGE for Super Bowl teams?

That's damning evidence right there, bud.

If you want to add rushing TDs to the list it gets even more embarrassing for Smith.

One game? And you want to bleed all over CP. You're giving up a lot of respect for yourself buying into clay's horse shit.
You want to address how our players dropped 5 crucial passes? That would be the logical thing to do. Or you lost all common sense too...

Quit responding to tigeruncle****er unless it's with the Alex missing reek gif.

He's just painting lipstick on an old, declining turd. To him it never hs and never will be that's turd's fault.

There has been GIFs from several games this year that show Alex missing wide open receivers downfield. This wasn't one game. This is who he is. It saves him some interceptions, but it costs the team a lot of points.

You're a ****ing moron, the sooner you get hit by a bus the better off we'll all be

So you're endorsing spam on this forum in response to posts that actually dress the OP. That would be a violation of TOS you are promoting. If you want to censor opposing views, I would suggest you spend more time at alt right meetings.

Because no QB misses open receivers?
FFS man, have some respect for yourself.

Look at our record before Smith....doesn't take a genius.

LMAO

I like the part where he acts like he has pull here, and can enforce whatever rules seem to fit his agenda.

He's a funny little turd.

Respect myself? Because I would rather have a chance to win a SB than to just settle for playoff appearances?

Great QBs don't pass up big play opportunities anywhere near the amount that Alex does. What point are you trying to make? No shit we can't win with Thigpen, Huard, or Cassel consistently. What makes you think Reid and Dorsey are going to resort to that type of QB?

Any 1 of the 4 remaining QBs playing today would win the SB with us this year. Hell, so would Wilson, and Prescott might even. We'd certainly have a much better chance with them and others who weren't playing even last week.

Cool, so when the new management fields a squad that has doubled team wins and goes to the playoffs 3 out of 4 seasons despite all the baggage inherited...you want to sit here and bleed all over this place about how YOU are entitled to win a Lombardi amongst a field of 32 NFL squads. We have been legitimate contenders, the problem is we haven't been getting production from the veterans this team needs come playoff time -> Charles/Tamba/Houston/Maclin

We ****ing pay Houston 18 mil a year and haven't received shit in return.

How many TD's did roeth throw on us cause you're making it sound like he outplayed Smith...?

Good grief, you guys.

Quit responding to him. You're giving him exactly what he wants.

Wishing death on other people? Sound like that sociopath, Clay. Your intellectual level is on par with that of a janitor.

A ****ing moron says what?

What do you propose? Waste all our talent gambling on an unproven rookie? Bring back Daniel? Trade for Geno? Trade for kaepernick?

You're buying into the idiocy flooding this site.

He played a much better defense, on the road, and still converted when he had to, which Alex did not until the last drive...

I'm done with this discussion, or whatever the hell this is.