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Eleazar 11-23-2022 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 16623284)
Costa Rica is awful and it doesn't change the fact that Spain passes the ball 500 more times than there opponent every game.

They had 800 more passes than Costa Rica

You’re thinking they need to shoot more than they shot to generate 7 goals

jd1020 11-23-2022 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 16623125)
Well it is a bit confusing since if I was born in Russia, but my parent's were born in the United States, I don't have the same rights as if I was born in USA just because my parents were born there?

So while it's simple to chalk it up to, your parents or grandparents or yourself need to be from said country, it's confusing why its allowed.

You'd probably be less confused if you stopped trying to relate it to something that it has no relation with. It's FIFA. It's a FIFA rule. The end.

Monticore 11-23-2022 01:13 PM

Davies is not our normal penalty taker I would have used David.

Dull Tools 11-23-2022 01:19 PM

Should have been another penalty there.

TripleThreat 11-23-2022 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16623299)
You'd probably be less confused if you stopped trying to relate it to something that it has no relation with. It's FIFA. It's a FIFA rule. The end.

lol why are you so argumentative. It's ok to think it's confusing that a person not born in the country is allowed to play for said country's national team, or at the very least to question it. As I said, sure, mom, dad, or grandparents lived their? You get to play for them, that simple. Cool, lets move on now bud.

jd1020 11-23-2022 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 16623368)
lol why are you so argumentative.

Because while you are confused with how completely separate things can be unrelated to each other, I'm confused about why people have to make things more difficult than it is by bringing up the unrelated.

FIFA allows players to choose which national team they play for based on where they were born, where their parents/grand parents are from, and if they have been in a country for 5+ years (presumably playing for youth teams and training in that country and possibly even having citizenship by now).

So if the question is why is X player allowed to play for Y team?... that is your answer. Pretty simple, direct, and not confusing.

Olympians are also allowed to represent a country they weren't born in. The athlete just has to have citizenship for the country they choose to represent and they can freely choose every Olympics, like the Canadian bobsledder who chose to represent the USA this last winter Olympics after she got her citizenship and there was some kind of sexual harassment issue with the Canadian team.

Monticore 11-23-2022 01:46 PM

Missed too many chances at one end and bites you in the ass

KC_Connection 11-23-2022 01:56 PM

Canada completely dominated that half against Belgium. Doesn't mean a damn thing in soccer if you can't finish though.

New World Order 11-23-2022 01:56 PM

C'mon Canada

KC_Connection 11-23-2022 02:04 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">HT: Belgium (0.66) 1-0 (2.34) Canada</p>&mdash; The xG Philosophy (@xGPhilosophy) <a href="https://twitter.com/xGPhilosophy/status/1595505474127990812?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wow.

Monticore 11-23-2022 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16623412)
Canada completely dominated that half against Belgium. Doesn't mean a damn thing in soccer if you can't finish though.

Missing that penalty hurt but Buchanan needs to do better on his chances , should have potential Loy had another one as well it playing high press you always risk a counter .

Still not over canadas speed causing them issues

KC_Connection 11-23-2022 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 16623428)
Missing that penalty hurt but Buchanan needs to do better on his chances , should have potential Loy had another one as well it playing high press you always risk a counter .

Still not over canadas speed causing them issues

Canada should have had at least one more penalty called for them as well.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Did Canada have two other potential penalties robbed from them? The TSN panel discusses. <a href="https://t.co/9LVFllouga">pic.twitter.com/9LVFllouga</a></p>&mdash; TSN (@TSN_Sports) <a href="https://twitter.com/TSN_Sports/status/1595507494956113921?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Can't rely on the refs in a FIFA World Cup, though.

Womble 11-23-2022 02:11 PM

This is the same ref that blew up for full time at the 83 minute mark in the African Cup of Nations. No wonder he's ****ing clueless.

Skyy God 11-23-2022 02:34 PM

My Peacock feed is in Spanish.

What am I doing wrong??

CanadaKC 11-23-2022 02:38 PM

Canada hasn’t shown they can finish but dam! They sure have shown they can compete against the #2 team in the world! Mettle and heart. And Alphonso Davies is clearly hurt

Monticore 11-23-2022 02:40 PM

Nice save , shit

MarkDavis'Haircut 11-23-2022 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16623494)
My Peacock feed is in Spanish.

What am I doing wrong??

You never changed it back after pretending to be in Belize.

markdis 11-23-2022 02:48 PM

I blame Drake for the missed PK. So far Belgium is my favorite, i am sure they gonna be in a final this year.
https://www.firesticktricks.com/watc...firestick.html - great source for ideas where to stream world cup the best from any country in the world. I am with the Sling TV at the moment. Does anyone know a better option?

MarkDavis'Haircut 11-23-2022 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch (Post 16622818)
I clapped when Wales scored on that PK. That country is tiny but it proves that anything can happen on the pitch for a team focused on soccer instead of homosexuality and gender dysphoria.

Yup.

Our squad is worried about looking woke.

TripleThreat 11-23-2022 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16623393)
Because while you are confused with how completely separate things can be unrelated to each other, I'm confused about why people have to make things more difficult than it is by bringing up the unrelated.

FIFA allows players to choose which national team they play for based on where they were born, where their parents/grand parents are from, and if they have been in a country for 5+ years (presumably playing for youth teams and training in that country and possibly even having citizenship by now).

So if the question is why is X player allowed to play for Y team?... that is your answer. Pretty simple, direct, and not confusing.

Olympians are also allowed to represent a country they weren't born in. The athlete just has to have citizenship for the country they choose to represent and they can freely choose every Olympics, like the Canadian bobsledder who chose to represent the USA this last winter Olympics after she got her citizenship and there was some kind of sexual harassment issue with the Canadian team.

Jesus what a woman. shut the **** up already.

New World Order 11-23-2022 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 16623527)
You never changed it back after pretending to be in Belize.

LMAO

TripleThreat 11-23-2022 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC (Post 16623508)
Canada hasn’t shown they can finish but dam! They sure have shown they can compete against the #2 team in the world! Mettle and heart. And Alphonso Davies is clearly hurt

This presentation of Canada makes me feel a lot better about them being the #1 out of our region and makes the games we played against them feel better.

Monticore 11-23-2022 02:55 PM

Definitely didn’t embarrass ourselves, knew missing that penalty would hurt.

KC_Connection 11-23-2022 03:00 PM

Canada honestly kind of choked that game. Probably not surprising considering that was the first World Cup game any of those guys ever played. They were the better team than Belgium (although it wasn't anywhere near as one-sided in the 2nd half) but couldn't finish the many chances they had.

Now will need 4-6 points out of those Croatia/Morocco games at least to advance.

KC_Connection 11-23-2022 03:03 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="tr" dir="ltr">Belgium (0.86) 1-0 (2.83) Canada</p>&mdash; The xG Philosophy (@xGPhilosophy) <a href="https://twitter.com/xGPhilosophy/status/1595521787424563204?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Soccer ain't fair.

jd1020 11-23-2022 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16623574)
Soccer ain't fair.

Is there a breakdown of their formula out there somewhere or do you have to buy the book?

Womble 11-23-2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 16623548)
Jesus what a woman. shut the **** up already.

Yea jd1020 shut the **** up already. This is a thread for monumentally stupid (bordering on the reeruned) takes from 'soccer' experts like TripleThreat. Who cares if he's only ever watched 20 minutes of the sport in between his lobotomy treatment sessions and thinks scoring a penalty gives you 3 goals. I value his input and I'm now convinced the USA will win the FIFA Bowl. USA USA USA

jd1020 11-23-2022 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 16623591)
Yea jd1020 shut the **** up already. This is a thread for monumentally stupid (bordering on the reeruned) takes from 'soccer' experts like TripleThreat. Who cares if he's only ever watched 20 minutes of the sport in between his lobotomy treatment sessions and thinks scoring a penalty gives you 3 goals. I value his input and I'm now convinced the USA will win the FIFA Bowl. USA USA USA

Meh. Let it go. The irony of the confused one saying "woman" made me laugh.

KC_Connection 11-23-2022 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16623589)
Is there a breakdown of their formula out there somewhere or do you have to buy the book?

I'm sure it's out there, but I wouldn't know where to look.

TripleThreat 11-23-2022 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 16623591)
Yea jd1020 shut the **** up already. This is a thread for monumentally stupid (bordering on the reeruned) takes from 'soccer' experts like TripleThreat. Who cares if he's only ever watched 20 minutes of the sport in between his lobotomy treatment sessions and thinks scoring a penalty gives you 3 goals. I value his input and I'm now convinced the USA will win the FIFA Bowl. USA USA USA

We are all glad you've come around.

BWillie 11-23-2022 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dull Tools (Post 16622735)
Never used to be like this but the referees just accept it now which makes it worse. Should be a yellow card for a dive but barely ever happens now.

It is made worse by people saying that it is a penalty when people barely get touched in the penalty are.

#1 reason I hate soccer. Unfortunately now that NBA is more international it's taking over the NBA too. It should not be tolerated, period.

loochy 11-23-2022 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16623494)
My Peacock feed is in Spanish.

What am I doing wrong??

Peacock only has rights to the Spanish language telecast through Telemundo. Fox and FS1 have the rights to English language broadcast.

BWillie 11-23-2022 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16623393)
Because while you are confused with how completely separate things can be unrelated to each other, I'm confused about why people have to make things more difficult than it is by bringing up the unrelated.

FIFA allows players to choose which national team they play for based on where they were born, where their parents/grand parents are from, and if they have been in a country for 5+ years (presumably playing for youth teams and training in that country and possibly even having citizenship by now).

So if the question is why is X player allowed to play for Y team?... that is your answer. Pretty simple, direct, and not confusing.

Olympians are also allowed to represent a country they weren't born in. The athlete just has to have citizenship for the country they choose to represent and they can freely choose every Olympics, like the Canadian bobsledder who chose to represent the USA this last winter Olympics after she got her citizenship and there was some kind of sexual harassment issue with the Canadian team.

And you shouldn't be able to do that. Is what alot of people are saying.

You SHOULD not qualify to play for another country because your ****ing Grand parents were born there. My great grandma was 100% Swedish. I would never ever ever represent that country if I was good at something.

jd1020 11-23-2022 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16623844)
And you shouldn't be able to do that. Is what alot of people are saying.

I don't think a lot of people are saying that.

Monticore 11-23-2022 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16623837)
#1 reason I hate soccer. Unfortunately now that NBA is more international it's taking over the NBA too. It should not be tolerated, period.

A lot of flopping Americans in the NBA , but watching Ginobli flopping around back in the day turned me off the NBA for sure.

WilliamTheIrish 11-23-2022 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 16622897)
I can see criticizing Spain as boring as part of the whole soccer is boring schtick. But it's odd to single out Tiki-Taka out as specifically or particularly boring, as most people find it the most exciting style since Ginga

I’ve been on the receiving end of an ass kicking like Spain handed CR today. The team we played was just so skilled in the triangle of passes and they would play at a slow pace. Then when the ball made it to a certain point, the strikers made a move and the ball was played perfectly.

The amount of energy you expend chasing eventually just wears you down mentally. Physically also, but mentally it’s humiliating.

BWillie 11-23-2022 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 16623858)
A lot of flopping Americans in the NBA , but watching Ginobli flopping around back in the day turned me off the NBA for sure.

There is but it's due to the international influence

Eleazar 11-23-2022 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16623928)
There is but it's due to the international influence

Same in soccer. The Latin players think it’s an art, particularly the Brazilians

DJJasonp 11-23-2022 09:55 PM

If I ruled FIFA….rules/approach I would change:

1. Whistles stop the clock, and the game is over at 90 minutes. Would stop a lot of flopping and time wasting

2. If a player goes down from a sniper shot and rolls around and needs “magic spray”, etc. whistle blows, clock stops, and player must go to sideline and not allowed back in game for two minutes.

3. Flops can be reviewed post-game, and cards issued.

jd1020 11-23-2022 10:05 PM

Lets not give a reason to insert commercial breaks into the game by stopping the clock.

|Zach| 11-23-2022 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 16624001)
If I ruled FIFA….rules/approach I would change:

1. Whistles stop the clock, and the game is over at 90 minutes. Would stop a lot of flopping and time wasting

2. If a player goes down from a sniper shot and rolls around and needs “magic spray”, etc. whistle blows, clock stops, and player must go to sideline and not allowed back in game for two minutes.

3. Flops can be reviewed post-game, and cards issued.

No

Eleazar 11-23-2022 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 16624001)
If I ruled FIFA….rules/approach I would change:

1. Whistles stop the clock, and the game is over at 90 minutes. Would stop a lot of flopping and time wasting

2. If a player goes down from a sniper shot and rolls around and needs “magic spray”, etc. whistle blows, clock stops, and player must go to sideline and not allowed back in game for two minutes.

3. Flops can be reviewed post-game, and cards issued.

They can and occasionally do book players for diving.

Apart from this, someone who takes a heavy tackle is probably entitled a moment to recover. They are running 6 or 8 miles in a match, taking the brunt of those collisions to feet and ankles and shins, it can definitely hurt. Those who get hit hard or in a painful way get to limp off a football field and take some plays off, or rest through an opponent's possession. Basketball players sub out and come back later. Soccer players don't have any of those luxuries.

TripleThreat 11-24-2022 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 16624001)
If I ruled FIFA….rules/approach I would change:

1. Whistles stop the clock, and the game is over at 90 minutes. Would stop a lot of flopping and time wasting

2. If a player goes down from a sniper shot and rolls around and needs “magic spray”, etc. whistle blows, clock stops, and player must go to sideline and not allowed back in game for two minutes.

3. Flops can be reviewed post-game, and cards issued.

No - for how much flopping there is, if you’ve ever played, if you get tacked clean, or worse, poorly, it can hurt. Go up for a header and bang heads together? It hurts… there’s legit reason for some of these flops but of course a ton of these guys have perfected the art so these legit pains go unnoticed.

Womble 11-24-2022 06:59 AM

Easy job for the commentators when the Koreans are defending today..
https://i.postimg.cc/nVQsVKKT/Screen...124-124958.png

Monticore 11-24-2022 07:32 AM

This guy should be fined and suspended and has definitely not mastered the art.

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Monticore 11-24-2022 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 16624082)
No - for how much flopping there is, if you’ve ever played, if you get tacked clean, or worse, poorly, it can hurt. Go up for a header and bang heads together? It hurts… there’s legit reason for some of these flops but of course a ton of these guys have perfected the art so these legit pains go unnoticed.

Does it hurt maybe but common hockey players who take a slap shot to the face don’t flop like that , if you are truly injured you don’t flop , ever see a guy break his leg rolling around the ground?

BWillie 11-24-2022 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 16624149)
This guy should be fined and suspended and has definitely not mastered the art.

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Just sickening

kstater 11-24-2022 08:47 AM

How did the ref miss that foul by Uruguay? Almost led to a goal the other way.

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DJJasonp 11-24-2022 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 16624082)
No - for how much flopping there is, if you’ve ever played, if you get tacked clean, or worse, poorly, it can hurt. Go up for a header and bang heads together? It hurts… there’s legit reason for some of these flops but of course a ton of these guys have perfected the art so these legit pains go unnoticed.

yep - played 30 years worth of soccer, and had multiple injuries from it.

90% of the "down on the ground writhing in pain" is BS.

I also cant fathom how anyone defends the current timekeeping. So awesome that only ONE person on the planet knows when the game is going to end.

so stupid. but, might as well perpetuate the flopping narrative....the label will continue to stick.

DJJasonp 11-24-2022 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16624040)
They can and occasionally do book players for diving.

Apart from this, someone who takes a heavy tackle is probably entitled a moment to recover. They are running 6 or 8 miles in a match, taking the brunt of those collisions to feet and ankles and shins, it can definitely hurt. Those who get hit hard or in a painful way get to limp off a football field and take some plays off, or rest through an opponent's possession. Basketball players sub out and come back later. Soccer players don't have any of those luxuries.

sure. stop the clock!

DJJasonp 11-24-2022 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16624007)
Lets not give a reason to insert commercial breaks into the game by stopping the clock.

Didnt say that. And you are constantly bombarded with advertisements in soccer. it's all around you on the screen.

asinine to let the clock roll while players fake bs injuries. It's a game tactic that wouldnt exist with a stopped clock on whistles (other than "we're tired, we need a break).

Teams with a lead constantly pull this time-wasting nonsense, and like I said, it wouldnt bear fruit with a stopped clock.

Play 90 real minutes of soccer - all I'm asking.

Dull Tools 11-24-2022 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 16624001)
If I ruled FIFA….rules/approach I would change:

1. Whistles stop the clock, and the game is over at 90 minutes. Would stop a lot of flopping and time wasting

2. If a player goes down from a sniper shot and rolls around and needs “magic spray”, etc. whistle blows, clock stops, and player must go to sideline and not allowed back in game for two minutes.

3. Flops can be reviewed post-game, and cards issued.

There is quite a lot of people in England now who want to see the game reduced to 60 minute games with a stop clock now when the ball is out of play to stop time wasting. The time the ball is in play is ususally less than that at the moment.

MarkDavis'Haircut 11-24-2022 10:24 AM

Too many 0-0 games so far.

Ocotillo 11-24-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 16624287)
Too many 0-0 games so far.

It's still not anywhere near as bad as the 1990 World Cup, the lowest scoring one ever.

TripleThreat 11-24-2022 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 16624287)
Too many 0-0 games so far.

I think it’s been like 3 or 4?? You definitely are gonna have teams trying there best to play for a draw against certain teams and then go all out against their easiest opponent. Draw draw win can get some of these low ranked teams through to the round of 16

Ocotillo 11-24-2022 10:39 AM

If you watch the World Cup over Bills at Lions today, you're not an American, you're a Communist and you should be imprisoned. At the very least, you should be banned from this site.

BWillie 11-24-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 16624259)
yep - played 30 years worth of soccer, and had multiple injuries from it.

90% of the "down on the ground writhing in pain" is BS.

I also cant fathom how anyone defends the current timekeeping. So awesome that only ONE person on the planet knows when the game is going to end.

so stupid. but, might as well perpetuate the flopping narrative....the label will continue to stick.

Would be a huge improvement.

kstater 11-24-2022 11:20 AM

Was it soft? Yes.

Is it a penalty? Yes.

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TripleThreat 11-24-2022 11:21 AM

Bull shit penalty. If they don’t review that, then what’s the point of the VAR?

TripleThreat 11-24-2022 11:21 AM

At least review it, and if it’s upheld fine, but ffs that was so weak.

GloucesterChief 11-24-2022 11:28 AM

That is just a reminder of why soccer is a terrible sport. Worse than the NBA when it comes to flops.

kstater 11-24-2022 11:30 AM

Oh snap!

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Gary Cooper 11-24-2022 11:32 AM

Of course Penaldo would get a cheap call like that.

TripleThreat 11-24-2022 11:34 AM

Always love Ghanas heart, even though they broke our hearts a few times in recent memory.

Eleazar 11-24-2022 02:54 PM

That Richarlison goal! Work of art

Clyde Frog 11-24-2022 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16625078)
That Richarlison goal! Work of art

Gareth Bale vibes for sure. Absolute beauty.

NJChiefsFan 11-25-2022 06:31 AM

Welp that result changes things. Iran deserved to win that.

Now it doesn't really mean anything if the US ties or loses to England. They need to beat Iran to move on. The only way tying or losing to England can negatively affect us is if Wales were to beat England. It is possible that England might not play all out in the last match if they don't need it so I suppose you can't just assume Wales has 0% chance of winning that game.

Does anyone consider assuming Wales won't win that and just go all out reckless against England for the win since a tie/loss doesn't help/hurt you? Or do you play the normal game plan of trying to hang around against England, still considering a Wales victory over England as a possibility?

NJChiefsFan 11-25-2022 06:36 AM

USA MOVES ON WITH...
-Win against Iran and England win/tie against Wales
-Win against Iran and Wales win against England(goal differential potentially)
-Tie Against England and win against Iran
-Win against England and Win/tie against Iran
-Many other scenarios should England lose the next two games but I'm not gonna bother with that unrealistic scenario

Lots of scenarios but it's now official that trying England and tying Iran will not be enough. The US will have to win one of these two. Fair enough because if you can't beat Iran you don't deserve to move on.

Dull Tools 11-25-2022 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 16625600)
Welp that result changes things. Iran deserved to win that.

Now it doesn't really mean anything if the US ties or loses to England. They need to beat Iran to move on. The only way tying or losing to England can negatively affect us is if Wales were to beat England. It is possible that England might not play all out in the last match if they don't need it so I suppose you can't just assume Wales has 0% chance of winning that game.

Does anyone consider assuming Wales won't win that and just go all out reckless against England for the win since a tie/loss doesn't help/hurt you? Or do you play the normal game plan of trying to hang around against England, still considering a Wales victory over England as a possibility?

Wales England is a weird game. They will be desperate to beat England even if it doesn't mean anything.

POND_OF_RED 11-25-2022 08:55 AM

Kind of disappointing to see Wales drop that one. Was really hoping to set them up with a chance to knock England out after we beat them today. Excited for this matchup. Should be a much more interesting game than the Wales matchup. They pretty much only have 3 defenders if Southgate goes with Shaw as his LB so that back line should be a little easier to breach than Wales dropping 5 back there. Shaw is a tremendous passer, but he’s slow and he’s a terrible defender so hopefully Weah can take advantage of that area on the pitch with his pace and we can catch them out early for a couple quick goals.

Dull Tools 11-25-2022 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 16625671)
Kind of disappointing to see Wales drop that one. Was really hoping to set them up with a chance to knock England out after we beat them today. Excited for this matchup. Should be a much more interesting game than the Wales matchup. They pretty much only have 3 defenders if Southgate goes with Shaw as his LB so that back line should be a little easier to breach than Wales dropping 5 back there. Shaw is a tremendous passer, but he’s slow and he’s a terrible defender so hopefully Weah can take advantage of that area on the pitch with his pace and we can catch them out early for a couple quick goals.

2 defenders in slabhead Maguire plays. Best chance for the US is if you can catch England on the break.

You need to employ Wales' tactics in the first game of dropping deep, soak up the pressure and then counter quickly.

Eleazar 11-25-2022 09:11 AM

Well, it's hard not to think that if the US had just finished the last 10 minutes against Wales, or without the one critical error, we'd be all but through now.

In any case, Iran put 2 past Wales and England both so it seems they're not to be taken lightly.

*edit, I guess it doesn't change our situation that much, we need a win out of the last two.

Eleazar 11-25-2022 09:16 AM

Athletic reporting Kane is a go for today. Could have been a break for the US if he wasn't able, but no such luck.

alpha_omega 11-25-2022 09:46 AM

I found this interesting.
Soccer guys...how often does this happen outside World Cup?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">3 - Wayne Hennessey is only the third goalkeeper ever to receive a red card at the World Cup, after Itumeleng Khune for South Africa v Uruguay in 2010 and Gianluca Pagliuca for Italy v Norway in 1994. Dismissed. <a href="https://t.co/Tpdtc35i9t">pic.twitter.com/Tpdtc35i9t</a></p>&mdash; OptaJoe (@OptaJoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/OptaJoe/status/1596109370881736705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Eleazar 11-25-2022 09:52 AM

It's not that uncommon for a keeper to be booked. It's uncommon for one to make such a wild challenge and be sent off, but it happens.

Womble 11-25-2022 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 16625718)
I found this interesting.
Soccer guys...how often does this happen outside World Cup?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">3 - Wayne Hennessey is only the third goalkeeper ever to receive a red card at the World Cup, after Itumeleng Khune for South Africa v Uruguay in 2010 and Gianluca Pagliuca for Italy v Norway in 1994. Dismissed. <a href="https://t.co/Tpdtc35i9t">pic.twitter.com/Tpdtc35i9t</a></p>&mdash; OptaJoe (@OptaJoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/OptaJoe/status/1596109370881736705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Used to be very common. Someone threads a ball through to their teammate and he gets to it before the keeper (who is the last man) and the keeper dives in and fouls the player resulting in a red card. There's a rule change in recent years where they won't send the player off if the foul results in a penalty and there is a genuine attempt to win the ball. So now goalkeepers are only getting sent off like today when the foul is outside the box. Not as common anymore.

BWillie 11-25-2022 10:53 AM

Lets go England, Lets go Iran!

Eleazar 11-25-2022 12:13 PM

Team news for US


Tonight’s USMNT Starting XI vs. England:
1-Matt Turner
2-Sergiño Dest
3-Walker Zimmerman
4-Tyler Adams (capt.)
5-Antonee Robinson
6-Yunus Musah
8-Weston McKennie
10-Christian Pulisic
13-Tim Ream
19-Haji Wright
21-Tim Weah

Substitutes: 12-Ethan Horvath, 25-Sean Johnson, 7-Gio Reyna, 9-Jesús Ferreira, 11-Brenden Aaronson, 14-Luca de la Torre, 15-Aaron Long, 16-Jordan Morris, 17-Cristian Roldan, 18-Shaq Moore, 20-Cameron Carter-Vickers, 22-DeAndre Yedlin, 23-Kellyn Acosta, 24-Josh Sargent, 26-Joe Scally

Eleazar 11-25-2022 12:16 PM

No changes for England

Pickford
Trippier
Stones
Maguire
Shaw
Rice
Bellingham
Mount
Saka
Kane
Sterling

Subs: Walker, Grealish, Henderson, Rashford, Pope, Phillips, Dier, Coady, Alexander-Arnold, Foden, White, Ramsdale, Wilson, Gallagher.

Titty Meat 11-25-2022 12:28 PM

Go England!


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