Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12071793)

If you run pass the LOS and accumulate yards then by definition, you are an eligible receiver. So if you are going to come in here and argue Cam had no one to throw to then you are making no case.

Cam has Olsen, Wilson had Luke Wilson.
Cam has Ginn, Wilson had Golden Tate

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12071072)

There's quite a gap between Cam Newton and Alex Smith here.

For example, Newton was stymied by his terrible receivers and terrible offensive line, so it wasn't really his fault. When this happened to Alex Smith, he was supposed to "throw them open" and if he were a good QB, he'd raise the level of the people around him.

Newton turned the ball over 3 times and produced no touchdowns, to say nothing of his mental gaffe of not going in for the fumble which ended his team's chances, or his screaming at officials toward the end, but it was excusable because he was playing a great defense. Smith gets criticized when he plays a good defense and wins, but doesn't put up a lot of yards.

Smith has never once displayed a lack of maturity like Newton did last night after the game, but around here he's seen as not leading enough, just towing the company line, etc

In the game thread, you point out that Newton was overthrowing half the time, side arming passes, etc., it's because he is being hurried. Smith dealt with that all last year and it was just "no more excuses!"

It's remarkable how we at CP treat our own players worse than anyone else's. It's particularly remarkable today, because Alex Smith probably would have won that game. Nobody has ever said Smith was an elite QB but he is a mature player who usually keeps his cool in the pocket, does well at feeling the rush, and handles pressure without becoming a turnover machine or losing his accuracy.

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12071845)

When Alex puts up 45 tds, goes to the super bowl and becomes the NFL MVP we can compare.

But not now.

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12071845)

When Alex puts up 45 tds, goes to the super bowl and becomes the NFL MVP we can compare.

But not now.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12071886)

That was the worst post Id seen in sometime including Bob's trash. I didnt think a response was deserved.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12071949)

At least one of you is a Clay mult

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12071949)

At least one of you is a Clay mult

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12071845)

puts up 45 tds, goes to the super bowl and becomes the NFL MVP

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12072287)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD3B3m6UyZM

How it feels to be a Cam Newton fan

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12072293)

..and then folds like a lawn chair.

..and Manning's stats?

Cochise is spot on.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12000980)

No. What you need to do is admit that you were entirely wrong about Newton.

"They've been limiting his contributions" "He's been carried by his running game" /dumbass

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12562257)

Couldn't help but bump this thread. The overrated Cam newton kool aid fed to the sheep last season...ROFL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOJf0pYguX0

"A star but not a great QB"
" not great pre-snap"
"he's not the type of QB that can be effective unless the run game is the starting point..."
"Cam is not a great QB...6 years, only 1 great one and that team was led by its unbelievable defense...and during their win streak they played the worst schedule in the league tied with the Jets"

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12070599)

Kelvin Benjamin wouldn't have changed the script tonight. He has terrible hands, just as bad as Ginn's.