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Jewish Rabbi 08-25-2024 12:19 PM

Is it still basically impossible to get good grades on die cuts or has that improved?

ghak99 08-25-2024 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17645587)
Is it still basically impossible to get good grades on die cuts or has that improved?

Every time you add a corner PSA gets an erection over the chance of murdering it. From what I've seen, I think you're better off at BSG but it could just be the specific cards I watch.

Oz_Chief 08-25-2024 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 17644936)
The parallels definitely have gotten out hand. The photos are even lazy shit nowadays. Usually, the same photo on the back of the card as the front.

You are so right. They probably have thousands of photos and they use the same one twice. We just have to laugh about it I guess!

Pointer19 08-25-2024 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17645587)
Is it still basically impossible to get good grades on die cuts or has that improved?

I've only sent in three die-cuts so far, and each got an SGC 9.5. That said, they were Select, so they're still mostly "regular" compared to all the cuts out of a Spectra.

Abba-Dabba 08-26-2024 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointer19 (Post 17645530)
Awesome find, Abba-Dabba. Getting a decently graded card for less than $40 is worth it to me; cut out the time to wait for not much of a premium. I've started to buy singles on eBay as well. I'm a sucker for the Spectra die-cuts. Pretty colors, low numbers, and I've gotten some on the cheap. Plan to send most of them into SGC.

<a href="https://ibb.co/GFDkJVY"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/yVC5R8v/e-Bay-Cards.png" alt="e-Bay-Cards" border="0"></a>

All fantastic pickups. Love Spectra. I'm a sucker for nebulas. I like that most raw sales are cheaper than you would expect for it to be.

Abba-Dabba 08-26-2024 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Oz_Chief (Post 17645618)
You are so right. They probably have thousands of photos and they use the same one twice. We just have to laugh about it I guess!

Yep, we can only laugh.

As long as we open our wallets they don't give a damn anyway.

BigRedChief 08-26-2024 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 17642301)
Yeah, sports card collecting has not been “for the kids” since the late 90’s. It’s big business. It is probably better described as high stakes gambling.

I started collecting in the early 90's with my son. We'd go to the card shows in hotel ballrooms on the weekends around the KC metro.

I had no money to buy anything. So I'd buy boxes and pull the rookies and put them in sleeves. Wait and see if any hit. Sometimes I'd hit on an Alex Rodriquez and everyone wanted one. I'd trade them an Alex for a card I wanted. Or one that my son wanted.

Then they started to overproduce the supply and the market collapsed. I ended up giving all my cards away when I moved in 2010. I gave Phobia 3 big plastic tubs of cards. We'd split whatever money came of it. Last time I checked the cards were worth thousands. Now they were virtually worthless. I still enjoy my cards I kept and my display that I'll post later.

Pointer19 08-26-2024 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17646570)
I started collecting in the early 90's with my son. We'd go to the card shows in hotel ballrooms on the weekends around the KC metro.

I had no money to buy anything. So I'd buy boxes and pull the rookies and put them in sleeves. Wait and see if any hit. Sometimes I'd hit on an Alex Rodriquez and everyone wanted one. I'd trade them an Alex for a card I wanted. Or one that my son wanted.

Then they started to overproduce the supply and the market collapsed. I ended up giving all my cards away when I moved in 2010. I gave Phobia 3 big plastic tubs of cards. We'd split whatever money came of it. Last time I checked the cards were worth thousands. Now they were virtually worthless. I still enjoy my cards I kept and my display that I'll post later.

Damn, BRC. I hate that you and your son experienced that. I'm definitely in the hobby as a collector and not an investor, so I'm in the camp that hopes Mahomes autos someday drop to affordable levels for the guys just trying to have a cool display in their man cave... Looking forward to your next post with photos.

tatorhog 08-27-2024 05:45 AM

Funny thing, high graded junk wax era cards are selling for a premium, if you ask me. A simple card like an 87 topps George Brett wil fetch close to $50 in psa10. Kinda throws a wrench in player collecting. And PSA raised their grading fees considerably a few years ago so I don’t see those prices coming down.

So if you have cards, even junk wax era, that’ll grade high, it might be worth sending a sample submission to test your own eye. If you get some 10s, maybe bite the bullet and send in a bigger sub. You potentially sell off the ones you don’t care about to get your keepers graded that way. Just a thought?

Jewish Rabbi 08-27-2024 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tatorhog (Post 17648474)
Funny thing, high graded junk wax era cards are selling for a premium, if you ask me. A simple card like an 87 topps George Brett wil fetch close to $50 in psa10. Kinda throws a wrench in player collecting. And PSA raised their grading fees considerably a few years ago so I don’t see those prices coming down.

So if you have cards, even junk wax era, that’ll grade high, it might be worth sending a sample submission to test your own eye. If you get some 10s, maybe bite the bullet and send in a bigger sub. You potentially sell off the ones you don’t care about to get your keepers graded that way. Just a thought?

Juice isn’t worth the squeeze there, IMO. You either wait a year for your card to come back or all the increase in value is eaten up by grading fees, or both.

BigRedChief 08-27-2024 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointer19 (Post 17647819)
Damn, BRC. I hate that you and your son experienced that. I'm definitely in the hobby as a collector and not an investor, so I'm in the camp that hopes Mahomes autos someday drop to affordable levels for the guys just trying to have a cool display in their man cave... Looking forward to your next post with photos.

My father-in-law hand made the frame and the card pedestals by hand. My wife painted the ball field. I rotate cards through the display. Right now it looks like I’m an old school collector but that’s just the ones out currently.

I can’t get the pic to atta h to this post, keep getting a fail message

tatorhog 08-27-2024 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17649156)
Juice isn’t worth the squeeze there, IMO. You either wait a year for your card to come back or all the increase in value is eaten up by grading fees, or both.

It’s there. Grading bulk is what? 14 or 16? I’ve filled a number of sets with my own subs and sold the rest of the sub

So if you’re doing PC you can supplement with grading stuff you’ll sell. The gamble is getting the grade. I just used the 87 Brett as an example.

I had a huge Bo PC and cards like the 87 topps could be had for $20 in psa10 and that card will fetch a solid 125 or more now. Junk wax cards will bring way more than they’re worth in high grade. But it’s a gamble no matter how you look at it when grading

BigRedChief 08-28-2024 08:05 AM

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My father-in-law hand made the frame and the card pedestals by hand. My wife painted the ball field. I rotate cards through the display. Right now it looks like I’m an old school collector but that’s just the ones out currently.

I can’t get the pic to attach to this post, keep getting a fail message

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arrowheadnation 08-29-2024 08:51 AM

Picked this up on ebay the other night. I'm pretty sure this is Salvy's very first card from the Burlington 2008 Appalachain League team set. This card itself is quite rare, but this one is even rarer yet as it's also autographed. I'm going to send it in to PSA for grading/authentication because it's in impeccable condition.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0d0cce54_z.jpg

Abba-Dabba 08-29-2024 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 17652500)
Picked this up on ebay the other night. I'm pretty sure this is Salvy's very first card from the Burlington 2008 Appalachain League team set. This card itself is quite rare, but this one is even rarer yet as it's also autographed. I'm going to send it in to PSA for grading/authentication because it's in impeccable condition.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0d0cce54_z.jpg

Very cool find! Hope it comes back authentic.

What are your plans if it doesn't come back authentic from PSA?


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