Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9518335)

Eric Branch‏@Eric_Branch1h
For morning crowd: #Chiefs QB Alex Smith (remember him?) and wife, Elizabeth, welcomed their second son, Hayes Monntgomery, on Wednesday.

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9518342)

Not that much over Cassell, but Im still excited.

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9518375)

With how careless Cassel is with the football, Smith is a clear upgrade on that alone.

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9518375)

With how careless Cassel is with the football, Smith is a clear upgrade on that alone.

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518431)

Remove last season, where Cassel was mentally shot, and Alex Smith is the same QB.

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518431)

Remove last season, where Cassel was mentally shot, and Alex Smith is the same QB.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9518452)

Smith is much more intelligent, athletic, and has more (short range) accuracy.

Other than that they're the same guy.

I love how they tout the turnovers numbers.

Every QB wants low turnovers but every QB also has to produce.

Alex has NEVER thrown more than 20 TD's in one season...

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518459)

I will give you accuracy, but, I need to see proof of the other two. Cassel was reasonably athletic.

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518431)

Remove last season, where Cassel was mentally shot, and Alex Smith is the same QB.

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518468)

Patiently waiting for the "X OC's in X years", "Last two seasons", and "but he won a playoff game" excuses.

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9518477)

Mentally shot? He was terrible here 3 out of 4 years and the last 2 were a complete disaster.

Smith, on the other hand, has played his best football over the last 2 years. Is he great, no, he's not. He wasn't my first choice.

If you have eyes, and can actually understand football, there's a clear upgrade here.

But please keep cherrypicking stats.

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9518481)

Cassel's athleticism is vastly overrated. He made plays with his legs the first year with New England. He made very few here.

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518459)

I will give you accuracy, but, I need to see proof of the other two. Cassel was reasonably athletic.

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518484)

Come on. Cassel sucked, but, there's no denying that he was mentally shot last season. His confidence was completely gone last year and it showed.

I wonder how long it will take before Smith breaks mentally?

And I'm not cherry picking stats. You claimed Smith took better care of the football. His stats refute your claim.

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518489)

Fine. Smith's more athletic. He's still shit at the QB position.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9518486)

I'm defending Alex here, and that's not a position I like to be in, but he's definitely much more mobile than teh Ca$$hole.

I've watched this guy for 3 years. The wife is a 49'er fan (ehck) and when KC isn't on that's the game. He's ****ing terrible the more time he has. It sounds stupid, but when he just reacts to the play he's fine. The more time he has the more time he thinks he has and THAT'S when he makes the stupid ****ing play.

THIS GUY READS AND RE-READS AND THEN JUST gets hit and ends the play.

He's too smart for his own good. He CAN scan the field. He CAN go through progressions.

The problem is he's SO concerned with perfect that he never lets go.

He gets sacked. He misses wide open WR's.

If the guys on the SF roster were honest they'd say that they absolutely love the guy but they were frustrated beyond belief...

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9518478)

How are they excuses?

You want to dismiss Cassel's last year because he was "mentally shot".

Did he not win a playoff game? Did he not lead the team back twice?

I don't know how that's an excuse.

Cassel doesn't have the accuracy or arm Smith does. Smith's arm is limited, but Cassel can't lead receivers, can't go through progressions.

Seems to me you keep looking for excuses to make the comparison that they are the same.

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518499)

I'm not dismissing it, just pointing out that last year was his absolute floor. And I think Smith's floor is just as bad.

Smith has been coached up, morphed into chicken salad, so to speak. It will be fun to watch his spiral downward, and listen to his defenders whine as they watch his collapse.

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9518498)

Wow. This is the best description of alex smith i have ever read. And has been my biggest problem with his play on the field. He can read a defense, diagnose the defense, put the team in the perfect play, but, if he has to improvise. It has disaster all over it. GREAT POST.

Rep rep rep rep rep.

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518499)

I'm not dismissing it, just pointing out that last year was his absolute floor. And I think Smith's floor is just as bad.

Smith has been coached up, morphed into chicken salad, so to speak. It will be fun to watch his spiral downward, and listen to his defenders whine as they watch his collapse.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9518503)

Go fist a shark...

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9518501)

Donkey troll.

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9518511)

No thanks. Last time i was in the ocean, i came face to face with a jelly fish. Never again.....

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518515)

Stupid ****.

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9518518)

Eat a bag of donkeydicks.

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518519)

Pull 'em out your ass first.

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9518533)

You're a donky troll.

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518519)

Pull 'em out your ass first.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9518538)

Careful, I might end up with a pro bowl HB like you guys did...

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518537)

It never occurred to you that I might be a transplant from Olathe, huh?

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9518559)

Well I didn't put a exact location on it but yeah. So you're a Chiefs fan? Then why are you trolling? Anyone who's watched Alex Smith at all knows he's a pretty athletic QB. He can actually score on 30 yard QB keeper. So it seems kind of troll like to put forth your netgative opinions when you don't really know the facts. So if your not a donky troll then excuse me.

Originally Posted by ThankYouBasedGod (Post 9518560)

Lol this is one sad board

Originally Posted by ThankYouBasedGod (Post 9518560)

Lol this is one sad board

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518575)

Eat shit.

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518566)

Honestly, who gives a **** if he's "athletic"? He's still shit at playing QB. Another mediocre retread, who won't do shit for this team other than break fans' hearts.

Ain't you sick of this shit already?

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9518486)

I'm defending Alex here, and that's not a position I like to be in, but he's definitely much more mobile than teh Ca$$hole.

I've watched this guy for 3 years. The wife is a 49'er fan (ehck) and when KC isn't on that's the game. He's ****ing terrible the more time he has. It sounds stupid, but when he just reacts to the play he's fine. The more time he has the more time he thinks he has and THAT'S when he makes the stupid ****ing play.

THIS GUY READS AND RE-READS AND THEN JUST gets hit and ends the play.

He's too smart for his own good. He CAN scan the field. He CAN go through progressions.

The problem is he's SO concerned with perfect that he never lets go.

He gets sacked. He misses wide open WR's.

If the guys on the SF roster were honest they'd say that they absolutely love the guy but they were frustrated beyond belief...

Originally Posted by JF08 (Post 9518840)

Great post. Describes Alex perfectly. I think that over time, as he gains confidence, he will "let go" more often. But it will take some time.

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9518871)

I'll NEVER quit the Chiefs.

What's more awesome than calling millionaires a bunch of ****ing losers?

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9518876)

He's been in the league eight years. How much longer do you think it will take?

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9518892)

If things are so terrible, why bother?

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9518910)

What's more awesome than calling millionaires a bunch of ****ing losers?

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9517477)

The same as it sits with us now, except for one season removed.

But what happens if the season after that Alex goes all Tom Brady on everyone and suddenly he just clicks, like he has under Harbaugh?


Or say, heaven forbid, Alex is with us for 7 years, and in his 6th year, after 5 average seasons, showing a little upside and being a top 12-16 QB, we win a super bowl.

Do we all of a sudden come back to this thread and say "hey, we were all stupid for doubting reid's execution here".

Because in the long run, what are we after?

Do we want a top 5 QB, future hall of famer, and perennial playoff contending caliber QB, or do we want a guy who won us a super bowl?

I'd be reluctant to answer that myself, and I'd bet the fanbase was pretty close to a 50/50 split on it.

Originally Posted by Jonny Thunder (Post 9517481)

One thing this forum has in common with that day care center Chiefscrowd, is a copious amount of tears. Can you poor QB impoverished people look past your programming? You have some good players and send 6 to the Pro Bowl while skimming the bottom of the ocean like a whale turd all season. Then you got a true general of a QB in Alex Smith and some others. You have a GREAT coach! He's better than Harbaugh folks. You have to get into the Alex Smith story to come to the conclusions that better evaluators of talent than yourselves have come to. And Alex had steady improvement and downright moments of brilliance before Harbaugh came to the Niners. I'm not going to pour all that into this forum. You guys need to true up. Did you guys watch Smith last year? 2011? Prior years?

I'm rooting for the Chiefs. I'm expecting to see a controlled and disciplined offense, the shine of inspired losers turned winners, and yes, some hiccups as the whole top end is new. But be patient. I think it'll be good.

I am new to this forum. I am usually sarcastic and at times a bombastic individual. I am a fan. I hope the rules here don't require me to take off my shoes when I sign in, wash my hands after going to the bathroom or excuse myself for farting during conversation. But I don't threaten or get nasty and I figure this is all tongue in cheek and in good fun. I'm guessing most of you guys are 12 years old.

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9519093)

Whoa whoa whoa, boy. Six YEARS of that mother****er??? Are you out of your goddamned mind???
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Originally Posted by Jonny Thunder (Post 9517481)

Then you got a true general of a QB in Alex Smith and some others. .

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9519106)

you thought Mark Sanchez was a good QB STFU

Originally Posted by Jonny Thunder (Post 9517526)

Harbaugh is not a general, he's a cheerleader. A general does not try weak tosses in the redzone at the 5 yard line first and goal when he had Delanie Walker and Frank Gore. The QB is the general. Alex Smith is a game manager remember? Twelve was generous.

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9519116)

Somewhere, the real Johnny Thunder weeps for your stupidity. You're more of a "Buster Poindexter".
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9518492)

you dont want the multiple ocs, head coaches, excuses, but you just claimed Cassel was mentally shot? FROM WHAT?

And Alex Smiths confidence wasnt shot from the shit of a franchise he had been in and a cause of for 6 years prior to harbaugh? I can buy that, honestly, i can, expectations that are placed upon these qbs are sometimes just ridiculous, but you want to give Matt Cassel a pass, and crucify Alex Smith?

Thats just beyond stupid to me....

To answer your question. Alex Smith, is never going to mentally break. Hes mentally tough. He has proven that. No one can deny that.....

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9517572)

Alex Smith fan should be renamed to Alex smith's mom

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9519121)

I think he's had a few too many stacks of "Johnny Cakes", heh

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9519133)

Oooh, Sopranos reference? if so HAAA.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9519123)

cassel had the same excuses dude...

multiple Ocs throughout his career in total, two HC's here.

just STFU with the ****ing excuses, everyone that sucks have them

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9519148)

and isnt it amazing that the players that dont suck, DONT HAVE THEM.

You know, like the elis, peytons, tom bradys drew brees, and aaron rodgers of the worlds!!!!

Amazing how that ****ing works aint it?

JFC.......You could of just left it alone, but nooooooooooo.....

Originally Posted by Beeker (Post 9519169)

Unless and until Alex Smith wins the Chiefs a SB, it will NEVER get left alone.

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9519227)

Alex Smith Fan, Dane & Bosschief

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9519182)

Well, those are the expectations when you acquire a vet QB. Don't care if they won 2 games last year, they need to win a playoff game next year.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9518486)

I'm defending Alex here, and that's not a position I like to be in, but he's definitely much more mobile than teh Ca$$hole.

I've watched this guy for 3 years. The wife is a 49'er fan (ehck) and when KC isn't on that's the game. He's ****ing terrible the more time he has. It sounds stupid, but when he just reacts to the play he's fine. The more time he has the more time he thinks he has and THAT'S when he makes the stupid ****ing play.

THIS GUY READS AND RE-READS AND THEN JUST gets hit and ends the play.

He's too smart for his own good. He CAN scan the field. He CAN go through progressions.

The problem is he's SO concerned with perfect that he never lets go.

He gets sacked. He misses wide open WR's.

If the guys on the SF roster were honest they'd say that they absolutely love the guy but they were frustrated beyond belief...

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9519108)

Sorry about the brain injury.

Originally Posted by Jonny Thunder (Post 9519327)

You're the one with a stick through you head, genius.

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9519245)

I'm surprised you're not on the Alex bandwagon. :)

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9519116)

Somewhere, the real Johnny Thunder weeps for your stupidity. You're more of a "Buster Poindexter".
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9519337)

Yeah, sure. "Field General" Alex Smith. Good stuff, great insight. :LOL:

Originally Posted by Jonny Thunder (Post 9519354)

So enlighten me on Buster Poindexter...