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'Hamas' Jenkins 11-26-2011 11:25 PM

I hope you're right.

Quesadilla Joe 12-04-2011 04:33 PM

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**BREAKING MLB NEWS**Source: Albert Pujols has told associates he will "NOT" sign with Cardinals! Pujols era in STL #DONE (Cubs/Nats/Miami)
https://twitter.com/#!/incarceratedb...57235417309184

Quesadilla Joe 12-04-2011 04:33 PM

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**BREAKING MLB NEWS**Source: Albert Pujols has told associates he will "NOT" sign with Cardinals! Pujols era in STL #DONE (Cubs/Nats/Miami)
https://twitter.com/#!/incarceratedb...57235417309184

tk13 12-04-2011 04:37 PM

Jon Heyman was tweeting earlier that there is a lot of skepticism that Pujols is actually 31 years old. Said no one may top the Cardinals offer because of it.

BigRedChief 12-08-2011 07:32 PM

Pujols was my favorite player since Gibson. I was in favor of paying Pujols the big bucks. You were overpaying for the last years but I figured they would make the money back because Pujols would be nearing breaking records and people would be nostalgic to go see the great Pujols one more time.

I don't fault the Cardials front office. A offer of 9-10 years for a total value of $210 million was a great effort. We can afford a top ten payroll but we can't hand out mega deals like LA/NY. It would cripple the clubs future.

$44 million isn't small money. Pujols has earned the right the right to take the most money. He deferred money without interest, was active in the community and charity work. We won 2 World Championships during his time here.

He said he wanted to be a Cardinal for life. Best fans in America. Why would he want to play anywhere else? Wellll now we know $44 million will change his mind. How many of us would turn down $44 million? You can change your families fortunes for generations. Transform the shanty towns in the dominican. Free will. His choice. I honestly think I would have left the $44 million and been happy with $210 million and forever being an icon to an adoring fan base.

I was a Cardinal fan before Pujols and will still be after his playing days are over in LA.

We have a Cy Young calibur pitcher coming back and 2 potential #1 starters coming up to the big show by 2013. It's still good to be a Cardinal fan.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-08-2011 07:36 PM

$44 million is a drop in the ****ing bucket all things considered. What is the real difference between 315 million and 360 million?

It's not always about the money for everyone. Pujols set himself apart as being different. He was a ****ing liar, and he should always be remembered as such. He deserves no standing ovations upon return, a right to accept his ring in front of the fans, a statue, or a retired jersey.

That's what $44 million bought him, the cost of his legacy in St. Louis.

**** him and **** his slimeball agent.

BigRedChief 12-08-2011 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8182254)
$44 million is a drop in the ****ing bucket all things considered. What is the real difference between 315 million and 360 million?

It's not always about the money for everyone. Pujols set himself apart as being different. He was a ****ing liar, and he should always be remembered as such. He deserves no standing ovations upon return, a right to accept his ring in front of the fans, a statue, or a retired jersey.

That's what $44 million bought him, the cost of his legacy in St. Louis.

**** him and **** his slimeball agent.

Although I can be persuaded to go over to the dark side and hate. Not going there..............right away anyway.

I just don't like judging peoples motives. I want to hear how Pujols explains that the $44 mil was more important than a legacy and going against what he had said in the past.

Marcellus 12-08-2011 07:46 PM

McGwire has rightfully caught a ton of shit for PED's and his handling of the situation etc....

But he also realized a shit ton of $ is a shit ton of $ and he was happy to stay where he wanted to be for less $ then walked away from a deal because he felt he couldn't play up to the level of the $.

He obviously is not the level of player of AP and he used PED's but he wasnt a greedy bastard and you never questioned his motives however misaligned they may have been. He loved baseball and he loved Stl.

AP just proved his motivator is purely $.

Start Croyle 12-08-2011 09:42 PM

So is that a Chiefs tattoo on her butt or is she wearing chiefs panties?

OnTheWarpath15 12-10-2011 02:24 PM

USA Today reporting Furcal has re-signed for 2/14.

BigRedChief 12-10-2011 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8186205)
USA Today reporting Furcal has re-signed for 2/14.

It's on STLtoday also. I guess thats what passes for a "reasonable" contract these days.

Hopefully, Greene finally shows his potential at the Big Show. Maybe with TLR gone he will relax a little more? Nur, I'm not holding ny breath.

kcpasco 12-10-2011 02:57 PM

I think they should make a fair offer to Prince. I know he's no Pujols but it would put us back to one of the NL favorites again.

kcpasco 12-10-2011 02:57 PM

I think they should make a fair offer to Prince. I know he's no Pujols but it would put us back to one of the NL favorites again.

veist 12-10-2011 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8186249)
It's on STLtoday also. I guess thats what passes for a "reasonable" contract these days.

Hopefully, Greene finally shows his potential at the Big Show. Maybe with TLR gone he will relax a little more? Nur, I'm not holding ny breath.

I'd rather overpay a little for two years of Furcal than they overpay for 3-4ys of Rollins.

BigRedChief 12-10-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 8186268)
I think they should make a fair offer to Prince. I know he's no Pujols but it would put us back to one of the NL favorites again.

No thanks. you are going to overpay for Fielder.

I like turning Freese into a first baseman. Or maybe Craig. Get rid of the logjam at 3B. At least give it a shot during spring training.

Take the Pujols money and sign Molina and Waino to long term contracts.

See if you can get Beltran for at least a over priced contract instead of a wayyyyy over priced contract. Maybe he wants to win now and will want to play for a winner instead of the one with the biggest checkbook? He can play right while Craig is out. Move to Center or right depending on how Craig or Jay or doing.

Trade Boggs or McCullean for bullpen help.


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