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penbrook 03-31-2013 09:33 PM

The reason why Stanzi doesnt start is because he is mentally lost out there. He does have all the physical tools.

DaneMcCloud 03-31-2013 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9544768)
The reason why Stanzi doesnt start is because he is mentally lost out there. He does have all the physical tools.

And yet, BossChief said that not only would have have given up a 2nd for Stanzi in 2011, he would give up a 2nd for him TODAY.

Good luck with that, Peenbook.

BossChief 03-31-2013 09:40 PM

Something The Bad Guy said has stuck with me and festered.

He said that the deal for Alex Smith was drawn up a couple weeks before the combine and finalized after the combine and after the Chiefs talked with Alex.

Alex said after he was traded here that he would need to earn an extension.

Maybe the talk they had with him was that the only guarantee they were giving him was that he would start in 2013 and that they wouldn't guarantee anything else.

Alex knows this is a business...I bet he is expecting them to draft another quarterback.

Exoter175 03-31-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9544766)
Why would you keep Stanzi? This front office didn't draft him, he was a third stringer who has been awful so far and not shown anything.

He can't be awful if he hasn't taken a snap, and though he looked bad against the jailbreaks in 2012's pre-season, he looked great completely unprepared in 2011's pre-season.

The answer to why you keep him is simple, but one I don't think you'll understand.

His contract. He's in year 3 of his 4 year contract. It won't cost a whole lot to cut him, not that much against the cap, but we're already getting damned close to the cap as it is, ironically enough.

Believe it or not, we have to keep guys like Stanzi on our roster (Guys already signed to cheap contracts) to go out there and bring in the Alex Smith's, the Sean Smiths, and so forth.

We can't just go out there and sign the best talent at every position at every hole on our roster, we'd spend twice our cap trying to pull that off.

Truth is, we don't know what Stanzi has, but there wasn't much doubt in the coach's mind that he was better than Cassel, and Pioli denied him that opportunity multiple times.
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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9544768)
The reason why Stanzi doesnt start is because he is mentally lost out there. He does have all the physical tools.

He's never been out there to be mentally lost, he's only ever seen the pre-season, and in his first pre-season without camp or OTA's really, he was great because he was unprepared. Then he was forgotten in his second season and forced to run away from a jailbreak on every snap.

When he was given his opportunity to start, Pioli signed Orton and started him. In 2012, he was buried beneath Pioli's guy, and Romeo's guy.

He'd have never gotten a shot last year.

Exoter175 03-31-2013 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9544779)
Something The Bad Guy said has stuck with me and festered.

He said that the deal for Alex Smith was drawn up a couple weeks before the combine and finalized after the combine and after the Chiefs talked with Alex.

Alex said after he was traded here that he would need to earn an extension.

Maybe the talk they had with him was that the only guarantee they were giving him was that he would start in 2013 and that they wouldn't guarantee anything else.

Alex knows this is a business...I bet he is expecting them to draft another quarterback.


I bet he is too, but not this year.

SAUTO 03-31-2013 09:51 PM

How do we know "there wasn't much doubt in the coaches mind" Stanzi was better than Cassel?


All those starts Stanzi got?
Posted via Mobile Device

BossChief 03-31-2013 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9544773)
And yet, BossChief said that not only would have have given up a 2nd for Stanzi in 2011, he would give up a 2nd for him TODAY.

Good luck with that, Peenbook.

Go **** yourself. Bitch.

I never said I would make the same trade today, either you bitch ass liar.

You know, I understood the whole situation with you and your wife and how you need to vent. I understood it when you apologized to me for the way you had been acting. Then, you decided to go right back to full blown BlackBob and derailing every thread with your bullshit.

If it makes you feel better to bring up 3 year old conversations/discussions about a player I overvalued because he played for a college I used to watch a lot of, so be it.

At one point though, your apologies will fall on deaf ears because it's obvious the way you speak to me outside of the lounge isnt the real Dane and that the two faced, blowhard, ignorant fool that decides to take unneeded personal shots at me here are your true colors.

It's a shame, really, I once thought you were a man of principle, integrity and character...I guess I was wrong.

keg in kc 03-31-2013 10:01 PM

Interwebz. Serious business.

Hammock Parties 03-31-2013 10:03 PM

wtf is a peenbook?

like a book about dicks?

Canofbier 03-31-2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9544806)
wtf is a peenbook?

like a book about dicks?

It's the most-used social network among posters on this board.

DaneMcCloud 03-31-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9544792)
Go **** yourself. Bitch.

I never said I would make the same trade today, either you bitch ass liar.

You know, I understood the whole situation with you and your wife and how you need to vent. I understood it when you apologized to me for the way you had been acting. Then, you decided to go right back to full blown BlackBob and derailing every thread with your bullshit.

If it makes you feel better to bring up 3 year old conversations/discussions about a player I overvalued because he played for a college I used to watch a lot of, so be it.

At one point though, your apologies will fall on deaf ears because it's obvious the way you speak to me outside of the lounge isnt the real Dane and that the two faced, blowhard, ignorant fool that decides to take unneeded personal shots at me here are your true colors.

It's a shame, really, I once thought you were a man of principle, integrity and character...I guess I was wrong.

:deevee:

DaneMcCloud 03-31-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9544806)
wtf is a peenbook?

like a book about dicks?

LMAO

Should I even...?

Okay, no.

DaneMcCloud 03-31-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9544800)
Interwebz. Serious business.

13 glorious years

Exoter175 03-31-2013 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9544791)
How do we know "there wasn't much doubt in the coaches mind" Stanzi was better than Cassel?


All those starts Stanzi got?
Posted via Mobile Device

His pre-season stats in 2011 were better, then when Cassel went down and Romeo was the coach, Romeo said he was going to start Stanzi. Then Pioli signed Orton to start.

Then 2012 happened and both Pioli and Romeo had "their guy" on the roster, so it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the math here.

Simply put, Stanzi makes the 2013 roster, there isn't a shred of sense right now suggesting we should do anything different.

BossChief 03-31-2013 10:26 PM

Romeo never said Stanzi would start and Orton was here before Cassels injury.


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