Not to mention Dayton Moore deserves a statue for signing Perez to a 5/7 Mil deal. But this is what you get from homegrown players and players who have potential but aren't stars ala Cain and Esky

This same dead money spent on underwhelming veterans and non-producers that I've complained about as a Royals fan since last century. But it held ground when we had a sub $40 Mil payroll... I guess it works better when you spend like everyone else.

One thing I have learned here is that PB will ALWAYS find something to criticize.

That and us Royals fans have come to realize just how much the team looks up to Yost.

@jonmorosi: Sources: Royals considering Yovani Gallardo and Johnny Cueto, among many other options for their rotation. @FOXSports

Well I think it's safe to say that Oakland playoff game saved Ned's stint as Royals manager. Then the Royals went 8-0 in the playoffs all the way to game 7 of the WS and now Ned is considered the best manager in Royals history LMAO.

Strange what 9 wins can do for ya.

Gallardo is really interesting. The Rangers have gotten a good year out of him and probably want young pitching in return, so they match up well with KC in trade.

I'd place Gallardo right there with Latos, Leake, etc. good second-tier target.

Now that Vargas is done, I think we're at the point where we have to add another SP.

Do we need to look at a year and a half of control now that vargas is done for next year as well?

It would be nice, but I still don't see it as a must.

Volquez
Young
Duffy
Guthrie
Ventura
Medlen?
Lamb?

I don't think thats a requirement, but the sellers need to be realistic about a 2 month rental.

That is a very steep dropoff after Duffy. Even if we think Ventura's struggles are just small sample size (what happened to his FB?), I see 4 SP in that group, so we'd be counting on no more injuries. The Royals also don't seem to want to start Medlen or Lamb until 2017.

I think Medlen, Lamb, and maybe Almonte could start games in September thru the playoffs.

Just to follow up with this because I agree with you that Haren is not a guy who would have been on my radar at all. Then I saw a little mention about him with the Royals. He's averaging 6.2 innings per start. Okay, that's nice but I don't care if you can throw a complete game every time you take the mound if you get hit hard and bleed runs.

Now, here's the possible logic in what value he could be in the rotation. He's a fly ball pitcher.
Actually, he's an extreme fly ball pitcher.

As in 2nd out of every pitcher in all of baseball. Just shy of half of his pitches that are put in play, at a little over 48%.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...08b8252710.jpg

I don't need to walk anyone through the same song and dance about the impact and difference of having a giant park like the K along with our defense behind him in terms of possible success.

Is he the sexy pick? Obviously not, but Dayton has a nose for spotting tons of pitchers considered mediocre who have been major contributers. We would have been screwed this year if he hadn’t signed some low key guys for depth that has turned out to be some very shrewd personnel moves.

Seriously, Volquez, Young, Madison, Medlan (maybe). Vargas and JGuts well outperformed when initially signed. The list goes on, but the evidence just mentioned is proof enough that no one is really in a position to 2nd guess Moore.

Now, who knows what he will actually do- we'll certainly find out in 9 days.

I'm almost intrigued at the idea that even if they pick up one of the marquee pitchers before the deadline, it might not be a bad idea to insure your bet and get Haren too.

He'll cost peanuts to get in a trade. The Marlins would probably accept anything because it saves cash and any future talent to add to their system is always better than nothing. Plus, I doubt that many if any other teams are reaching out to inquire about him very seriously.

I like it because it also replaces Vargas, and they are then able to send Ventura down to get his head and mechanics straight. I honestly think that some time in Omaha is necessary for him to reevaluate and get a little perspective if you have any hope of seeing the Ventura who pitched in the playoffs show back up this season.

Taking a flyer on the guy costs us literally next to nothing.

I wouldn't let that dictate any trade you make. There will already be a good amount of competition for spots in the rotation in spring training. Plus, who knows what will be on the market during the offseason.