Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 18043727)

I just literally described it in the post above. This isn't ignorance - it's malice. I just stated to trade whatever it takes to move up and get one.

You do that by moving up and getting one.

IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH IT COSTS - YOU SEND 4 DRAFT PICKS IF THAT IS THE COST OR YOU SEND 20.

That is how you get a franchise LT OR QB - You either suck balls and get pick 8 or you move up and pay the cost to move up and pick at 8.

Quit being ****ing cheap, pay what it costs to get the best LT option out there, and make it happen. Don't play dice, don't buy 3 lottery tickets, don't take 4 fliers with a 7th round pick.

TRADE UP AND GET THE BEST OPTION. If that costs 3 first round picks to protect Mahomes you do it.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 18043727)

I just literally described it in the post above. This isn't ignorance - it's malice. I just stated to trade whatever it takes to move up and get one.

You do that by moving up and getting one.

IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH IT COSTS - YOU SEND 4 DRAFT PICKS IF THAT IS THE COST OR YOU SEND 20.

That is how you get a franchise LT OR QB - You either suck balls and get pick 8 or you move up and pay the cost to move up and pick at 8.

Quit being ****ing cheap, pay what it costs to get the best LT option out there, and make it happen. Don't play dice, don't buy 3 lottery tickets, don't take 4 fliers with a 7th round pick.

TRADE UP AND GET THE BEST OPTION. If that costs 3 first round picks to protect Mahomes you do it.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 18043739)

Everyone knows our medical staff evaluated the guy. No one is arguing they didn't.

Why is it that every other medical staff seems to have passed but us? Why is it that all other teams needing a LT passed but us?

What science and earth shattering medical instrumentation do you believe this team has access to that no other team has access to?

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 18043739)

Everyone knows our medical staff evaluated the guy. No one is arguing they didn't.

Why is it that every other medical staff seems to have passed but us? Why is it that all other teams needing a LT passed but us?

What science and earth shattering medical instrumentation do you believe this team has access to that no other team has access to?

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 18043618)

No, it's not. If you're going to take a huge risk have a safety net. An unproven player is not a safety net. We signed him to an easy to end two year deal that's really a one year deal.

Just in case he doesn't work out - which is a legitimate risk. So we now have two risks as our plan. That's the truth.

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 18042733)

Yeah, I think for me the pick makes a lot of sense where we got him.

If we had the 15th pick in the draft and got a potential top-5 guy like him ex-medicals, I'd feel a little bit more leery. But we got a pretty reasonable discount in getting him at 32 (or 31 + a 5th).

As I said before, there are a lot of people who have pounded the table on trading up to get a top-10 tackle who is a "sure thing." I'd personally rather take a chance on the medicals at the end of the first round than make some splash draft trade that could also potentially have knock-on implications given reduced draft capital in future years.

And I'm willing to give Andy Reid the benefit of the doubt on this one that this isn't some panic pick or one done out of hubris. And the fact that they had so much interaction with Simmons throughout the process tells you that they really liked the person himself too.

It may or may not work out. Time will tell. But the process behind it is totally reasonable and justifiable. And I like how it pairs with the signing of Moore and the Taylor contract as well. You can see the vision for how the next couple years play out if this works or if this doesn't, and that's how good teams operate.

Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 18043755)

Tons of people wanted Conerly (not me) and the fact that Washington took him and said he's gonna be a guard should tell you all you need to know. I would hate that pick more than Simmons for sure.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18043751)

Welcome to the NFL.

If you think there's ANY move you can make that doesn't carry risk, you are sadly mistaken.

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 18043752)

This!! Let’s just for sake of the argument say Simmons never plays a snap as for us. But we hit on a 3rd round pick. It evens itself out, and that’s the best you should hope for in a draft where nothing is guaranteed.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18043736)

So should we just not say ANYTHING prior to the draft?

Because that's the thing -- the folks that said this pick is a waste and this was a dumb decision said it BEFORE the draft.

Nobody was sitting on their hands here and then flying off the top rope when the pick was made. We said it before and then it happened. Are people surprised that we say it now?

In some way chagrined that we're wasting Austin's bandwidth? CD Fixed his Shit. We can post without fear now.

It's always strange to me when folks get riled about about someone who didn't like the prospect of a specific pick being made not liking said pick AFTER it was made.

All that happened is that we removed the 'if'.

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 18043762)

I don't really care how you behave. Just odd to me we have folks declaring this as a complete waste and Veach as a reerun before he even has a chance to suit up and try to play.

Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 18043755)

Tons of people wanted Conerly (not me) and the fact that Washington took him and said he's gonna be a guard should tell you all you need to know. I would hate that pick more than Simmons for sure.