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Messier 03-11-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8441646)
5th

No. 8th.

Dartgod 03-11-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8441646)
5th

Edit: Wait, what?

Nope. That committee moron just said we were the last #2.

****ing ridiculous.

KcMizzou 03-11-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8441654)
No. 8th.

My bad... I just let my kid take over the TV. Missed it.

Whatever. I like our draw.

stonedstooge 03-11-2012 04:56 PM

Could meet Kansas in the last dance. That would be wonderful

sedated 03-11-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 8441653)
Citing the non con SOS.

Nope, it was the Big 12's fault.

KcMizzou 03-11-2012 04:58 PM

Laurence Bowers ‏ @MU_Highflyer21

Don't really matter but the last 2 seed? WOW! Still got to prove our ourselves but that's cool...#FEWDU #NorfolkSt. Preparation has begun

stonedstooge 03-11-2012 04:59 PM

Got to earn respect. Good year for Missouri to do that

Messier 03-11-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8441677)
Nope, it was the Big 12's fault.

Explain.

Braincase 03-11-2012 04:59 PM

Our first chance to hook again will be in the Final Four. Good luck to you all, and I hope no one gets hurt. L8r.

gblowfish 03-11-2012 05:00 PM

Looks like the Big 12 put the pressure on to screw Mizzou one last time before moving to the SEC.

Three SEC teams are considered possibles for the Final four: Vandy, Kentucky and Mizzou.

Bowser 03-11-2012 05:00 PM

2 seed, 9 seeed, whatever. I'm ready to see what this team has got for the tourney.

stonedstooge 03-11-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8441683)
Explain.

I'll take a stab at it. Conference winner is weak, thus the whole conference is

Mosbonian 03-11-2012 05:00 PM

Well.....if I was Frank Haith I would put that on the bulletin board as motivation.

Interestingly, MU is getting a lot of love from the experts even though the committee pretty much dissed them.

What would be a pretty nice "screw-you" to the committee would be to win the whole dang thing.

Hey Kimmie English...did you just hear the committee tell you that MU wasn't even considered for a #1?

KcMizzou 03-11-2012 05:00 PM

nick wright ‏ @getnickwright

Once the 1 seeds were announced, both KU and MU got exactly the region they wanted. KU gets Roy in StL and MU gets weakest of the 1s, by far

Bearcat 03-11-2012 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8441689)
Looks like the Big 12 put the pressure on to screw Mizzou one last time before moving to the SEC.

ROFL

Messier 03-11-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8441691)
I'll take a stab at it. Conference winner is weak, thus the whole conference is

Hm. I see what you're saying. Bullcrap.

kstater 03-11-2012 05:02 PM

NCAA selection committee part of the grand conspiracy against Haith now?

tredadda 03-11-2012 05:03 PM

Regardless of what others think of Mizzou's SOS, if they win their next 4 games, they are in the final 4. Handle business and it won't matter what seeding or region Mizzou got.

sedated 03-11-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8441691)
I'll take a stab at it. Conference winner is weak, thus the whole conference is

Nice try, troll.

stonedstooge 03-11-2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8441717)
Nice try, troll.

A Missouri fan trolling a Missouri thread?

Mosbonian 03-11-2012 05:06 PM

Watching the special on TruTV all the analysts are pretty much BS'ing the assertion against MU.

I want to hear what Greg Anthony started to say something about how "they look at the front of the jersey rather than the body of work"

KcMizzou 03-11-2012 05:09 PM

Maybe it is a bit of a snub, but I'm perfectly happy with the way it worked out. If it provides a little extra motivation, all the better.

(Though I don't really see how anything could motivate more than a chance to win a national championship.)

sedated 03-11-2012 05:10 PM

The selection committee just proved what meth-u fans have been denying - non conference DOES matter and the conference tournament doesn't mean shit.

eazyb81 03-11-2012 05:12 PM

Greg Anthony absolutely mocking the selection committee relying so heavily on SOS when you can instead look at the overall body of work.

I love the snub. Hope the coaches remind the players of it every day in practice. This team needs to feel doubted and snubbed. They thrive on it.

Rams Fan 03-11-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8441757)
The selection committee just proved what meth-u fans have been denying - non conference DOES matter and the conference tournament doesn't mean shit.

Cool story, bro.

eazyb81 03-11-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8441757)
The selection committee just proved what meth-u fans have been denying - non conference DOES matter and the conference tournament doesn't mean shit.

and everyone intelligent is laughing at them about it.

And good burn for the selection committee by putting the lowest ranked 1 seed with the lowest ranked 2 seed. Brilliant!

KcMizzou 03-11-2012 05:14 PM

Marcus Denmon ‏ @MizzouMonster12

Moral of the story schedule tough non conference games lose em get a high seed

sedated 03-11-2012 05:16 PM

Even counting mizzou as an sec team, theat conference still got less teams than the Big 12, with 4 more teams to pick from.

Messier 03-11-2012 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8441775)
Marcus Denmon ‏ @MizzouMonster12

Moral of the story schedule tough non conference games lose em get a high seed

Wow. MU players a little bitter.

lewdog 03-11-2012 05:17 PM

Besides MSU and Mizzou, the West looks pretty weak to me.

What do Mizzou fans think of the matchups in the west?

Mosbonian 03-11-2012 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8441757)
The selection committee just proved what meth-u fans have been denying - non conference DOES matter and the conference tournament doesn't mean shit.

How hypocritical.....coming from a guy who proudly talks about being stoned.

Mizzou_8541 03-11-2012 05:18 PM

Mizzou #3 in the Coaches Poll, with one #1 vote. Interesting that the coaches have us ranked so high. Didn't they look at SOS?

KcMizzou 03-11-2012 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 8441782)
Besides MSU and Mizzou, the West looks pretty weak to me.

What do Mizzou fans think of the matchups in the west?

I think it worked out pretty great for us.

eazyb81 03-11-2012 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8441777)
Wow. MU players a little bitter.

Is he wrong?

O.city 03-11-2012 05:20 PM

Both KU and MU avoided UK and Cuse and got pretty good draws. I'd say it's win win.


Hell MSU has to play Memphis in round two. I'd rather be where MU and KU are.

eazyb81 03-11-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 8441782)
Besides MSU and Mizzou, the West looks pretty weak to me.

What do Mizzou fans think of the matchups in the west?

Best of both worlds. Weakest 1 seed and now our players are pissed and feeling disrespected.

007 03-11-2012 05:21 PM

Man Mizzou got hosed. They should have been a 1 seed before Mich St.

Messier 03-11-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8441794)
Is he wrong?

lost to Duke and kentucky. Beat Georgetown and Ohio st.

Yes?

O.city 03-11-2012 05:21 PM

I would like to see a Marquette Mu matchup. Would be a pretty good game IMO.

Mosbonian 03-11-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 8441787)
Mizzou #3 in the Coaches Poll, with one #1 vote. Interesting that the coaches have us ranked so high. Didn't they look at SOS?

Interesting that we were only 15 points from being #2....but yet in the eyes of the committee we were #8

Captain Obvious 03-11-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 8441782)
Besides MSU and Mizzou, the West looks pretty weak to me.

What do Mizzou fans think of the matchups in the west?

I'm slightly concerned with the 2nd round against Florida (assuming they win...and assuming Mizzou wins....). Other than that I'm really liking our chances.

eazyb81 03-11-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8441806)
lost to Duke and kentucky. Beat Georgetown and Ohio st.

Yes?

WTF are you talking about?

He said moral of story is schedule more non-con teams and lose to them to get a higher seed, which is what the committee has basically implied.

Bearcat 03-11-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 8441787)
Mizzou #3 in the Coaches Poll, with one #1 vote. Interesting that the coaches have us ranked so high. Didn't they look at SOS?

:facepalm:

The coaches and AP poll are week to week... nothing to do with overall SoS/resume/etc.

O.city 03-11-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 8441816)
Hopefully that makes for an angry focused team.....march thru the tourney.

Would love another shot at KU...or any one of the committe darlings

I would love for MU to get another shot at KU. Would have to come in the NC.


CP would explode.

lewdog 03-11-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8441800)
Best of both worlds. Weakest 1 seed and now our players are pissed and feeling disrespected.

I agree and I think if I was a Mizzou fan I would be happy with where the chips fell.

I would love to see a Mizzou/MSU matchup down the road. I like how Mizzou plays, especially the guards. I haven't gotten to watch them much this year though, so don't know a ton about them.

Messier 03-11-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8441813)
WTF are you talking about?

He said moral of story is schedule more non-con teams and lose to them to get a higher seed, which is what the committee has basically implied.

So MU would have lost more game if they had a tougher non con? Thems the breaks.

Bearcat 03-11-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8441813)
WTF are you talking about?

He said moral of story is schedule more non-con teams and lose to them to get a higher seed, which is what the committee has basically implied.

I think proving you can play with the best is better than scrimmaging against Kennesaw State. Would you not agree that you can learn more from a team by watching KU/Kentucky than KU/Towson?

Messier 03-11-2012 05:26 PM

I thought it was an not so subtle shot at KUs non con.

eazyb81 03-11-2012 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8441827)
So MU would have lost more game if they had a tougher non con? Thems the breaks.

Agree. And Denmon - and every major analyst - is mocking it.

Whatever. I love it. This team clearly thrives off disrespect.

Bearcat 03-11-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8441836)
I thought it was an not so subtle shot at KUs non con.

Meh, I believe KU still beat twice as many tourney teams in non-con than MU, despite losing to Duke and Kentucky (and that includes Cal for MU).

eazyb81 03-11-2012 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8441834)
I think proving you can play with the best is better than scrimmaging against Kennesaw State. Would you not agree that you can learn more from a team by watching KU/Kentucky than KU/Towson?

Of course, but in Mizzou's case we have clearly already proved we can play with the best by splitting with ku, beating Baylor three times, destroying Notre Dame, etc.

Greg Anthony makes a great point that SOS should be used as a crutch more for deciding which teams get in the tournament than used for seeding top teams from power conferences.

Mizzou has beaten as many top 25 and 50 teams as any other top seed, so clearly we can play with the best.

O.city 03-11-2012 05:32 PM

No one has really said this, but I kind of like being a 2 seed. Yeah you play lower seeds than the 1 but you have less pressure and a good percentage of the time, that 3 seed gets upset.

Its all a matchups thing. We will just wait and see what happens. IMO, there isn't much difference in a 1 and a 2 seed. Both MU and KU had great years and are considered two of the top 8 teams in the country.

O.city 03-11-2012 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 8441866)
At some point I would bet that there would be temp bannings for some of us because of what would be said

I would probably avoid CP for a little while.


My dental school class is made up of alot of MU KU guys. The room begins to split every year when that game gets closer. I'd venture to say shit would go down if that happened.

sedated 03-11-2012 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 8441809)
Interesting that we were only 15 points from being #2....but yet in the eyes of the committee we were #8

Interesting that the selection committee actually does research and had meth-u at #8, as opposed to the coaches that have a million other things on their minds.

But hey, we get to settle it on the court, as opposed to some other sports.

Bearcat 03-11-2012 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8441851)
Of course, but in Mizzou's case we have clearly already proved we can play with the best by splitting with ku, beating Baylor three times, destroying Notre Dame, etc.

Greg Anthony makes a great point that SOS should be used as a crutch more for deciding which teams get in the tournament than used for seeding top teams from power conferences.

Mizzou has beaten as many top 25 and 50 teams as any other top seed, so clearly we can play with the best.

Guess it depends on which rankings you're looking at... I look at Sagarin, since it lays out the 'vs Top 25' and 'vs Top 50' (in other words, for convenience, and not because I think it's THE ranking), and according to that one, other top teams had 7-8 wins vs the top 25, while MU had 4.

I'd be interested in knowing the record of the top 8 vs tournament teams.

gblowfish 03-11-2012 05:35 PM

KU got an easy road, playing first game in Omaha, then on to St. Louis. I'll laugh if Roy Williams knocks them out in front of a full KU house. Mizzou got sent West as the "last" #2 based on SoS. I think Mizzou will draw FLA, Marquette then Michigan St, which is within the realm of possibility to make it out. Probably the best chance they've got. Kansas State loses to Syracuse in their 2nd game, Iowa State gets by UConn, then gets whacked by Kentucky. Baylor gets whacked by Duke. I don't think Texas gets by Cincy in the first game. Thoughts?

KcMizzou 03-11-2012 05:37 PM

Dick Vitale ‏ @DickieV

My Final 4 UK -Mizzou-FL ST -UNC!

Captain Obvious 03-11-2012 05:41 PM

I'm not a big fan of all these analysts picking Mizzou to make it to the Final 4.

dirk digler 03-11-2012 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8441750)
Maybe it is a bit of a snub, but I'm perfectly happy with the way it worked out. If it provides a little extra motivation, all the better.

(Though I don't really see how anything could motivate more than a chance to win a national championship.)

I agree. They just need to get to the Final 4 and make everyone stfu.

Spott 03-11-2012 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8441717)
Nice try, troll.

Pot meet kettle.

KcMizzou 03-11-2012 06:05 PM

Mizzou fans... watch this.

http://www.mutigers.com/allaccess/?media=309392

tredadda 03-11-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 8441782)
Besides MSU and Mizzou, the West looks pretty weak to me.

What do Mizzou fans think of the matchups in the west?

Marquette might give Mizzou problems although I worry about Florida. After that I don't see them having any issues with anyone else. I feel like they will matchup well with MSU.

Captain Obvious 03-11-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8441985)

There's a distinct lack of dancing. Other than that, awesome vid.

tredadda 03-11-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8441882)
Dick Vitale ‏ @DickieV

My Final 4 UK -Mizzou-FL ST -UNC!

Is he alright? That guy is the biggest Duke homer on earth, to not pick them in the Fianl Four is stunning. But many, many analysts think Mizzou will come out of the West.

KC_Connection 03-11-2012 06:28 PM

I did say that MU had no chance at the #1 with their schedule and lack of big wins. But you did get the draw of a #1 overall seed in the first round with hapless Norfolk, so it's not like it hurt at all.

KC_Connection 03-11-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 8441787)
Mizzou #3 in the Coaches Poll, with one #1 vote. Interesting that the coaches have us ranked so high. Didn't they look at SOS?

No, that's why Murray State is so undeservingly high in those ridiculous polls.

KcMizzou 03-11-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious (Post 8442037)
There's a distinct lack of dancing. Other than that, awesome vid.

LMAO That little dance had me cracking up. Loved it. I wish I knew how to post the gif.

stonedstooge 03-11-2012 06:34 PM

DickieV not giving much love to Kansas

KC_Connection 03-11-2012 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8441794)
Is he wrong?

Yes. All the teams above them on the S-Curve played a more difficult schedule than MU and won more big games (as I said all afternoon). None of this is surprising.

Bearcat 03-11-2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8442052)
DickieV not giving much love to Kansas

They seem to be on a bit of an upset alert, showing that stat on KU upsets 3 or 4 times now, even though teams like Michigan State lose in the first weekend just as often.... "an iffy 2/15 game".... meh, I hope the players get the message. Can't take the day off.

KC_Connection 03-11-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8441879)
KU got an easy road, playing first game in Omaha, then on to St. Louis. I'll laugh if Roy Williams knocks them out in front of a full KU house. Mizzou got sent West as the "last" #2 based on SoS. I think Mizzou will draw FLA, Marquette then Michigan St, which is within the realm of possibility to make it out. Probably the best chance they've got. Kansas State loses to Syracuse in their 2nd game, Iowa State gets by UConn, then gets whacked by Kentucky. Baylor gets whacked by Duke. I don't think Texas gets by Cincy in the first game. Thoughts?

Baylor can beat Duke...they're better when they're at their best. I also wouldn't be surprised to see MSU lose to Memphis...they're playing really well right now, an incredibly tough #8 seed.

If KU actually makes it to St. Louis against UNC, that would be great.

KC_Connection 03-11-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8442058)
They seem to be on a bit of an upset alert, showing that stat on KU upsets 3 or 4 times now, even though teams like Michigan State lose in the first weekend just as often.... "an iffy 2/15 game".... meh, I hope the players get the message. Can't take the day off.

Way more worried about the three jackers in the next game than Detroit. That's where your upset may come with KU this year.

tredadda 03-11-2012 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8442067)
Baylor can beat Duke...they're better when they're at their best. I also wouldn't be surprised to see MSU lose to Memphis...they're playing really well right now, an incredibly tough #8 seed.

If KU actually makes it to St. Louis against UNC, that would be great.

I actually have Baylor losing to UK in the elite 8. Let's not forget of Baylor's 7 losses, 5 were to MU and KU. They are a very good team, just struggled against two conference teams that both ended up with #2 seeds.

Bearcat 03-11-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8442075)
Way more worried about the three jackers in the next game than Detroit. That's where your upset may come with KU this year.

Yeah, from some of the stats/information you've posted, it looks like it... a couple of years ago they were on upset alert against North Dakota State and then Dayton, so not really concerned about any predictions. The grind it out games and teams that rely on the 3 are the most worrisome.

sedated 03-11-2012 06:46 PM

I might take Baylor to lose in the first round. What was their biggest non-con win? At BYU?

tredadda 03-11-2012 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8442101)
I might take Baylor to lose in the first round. What was their biggest non-con win? At BYU?

Go for it. I still have them losing to UK in the Elite 8.

Pablo 03-11-2012 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 8442020)
You've evidently been smoking stuff that clouds your abilty to think rationally or type intelligibly.

And i still find it funny you call us meth-u....kinda hypocritical.

As an aside, If you believe marijuana and meth belong in the same discussion you're naive and/or slow-witted.

Pablo 03-11-2012 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8442101)
I might take Baylor to lose in the first round. What was their biggest non-con win? At BYU?

I don't know. Baylor has a ton of depth. I'm gonna have them in the Elite 8. Duke is their 2 seed. Duke FFS.

Bearcat 03-11-2012 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8442101)
I might take Baylor to lose in the first round. What was their biggest non-con win? At BYU?

Looks like South Dakota State can score, yet they lost to Nebraska... I'd probably cut my losses and have them lose to UNLV, so it doesn't hurt so much if they do end up winning a couple of games.

KC_Connection 03-11-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8442095)
Yeah, from some of the stats/information you've posted, it looks like it... a couple of years ago they were on upset alert against North Dakota State and then Dayton, so not really concerned about any predictions. The grind it out games and teams that rely on the 3 are the most worrisome.

NDSU was damn good. They had a couple of seniors that were great (and they both, unsurprisingly, took a lot of 3s). Detroit isn't on that level. They certainly aren't pushovers, but they should be beat if KU plays at an average level for them.

KU has way more talent than either St. Mary's or Purdue, but they both play a very similar style to VCU last year (and are probably better overall teams than VCU). That's the worrisome game for me.


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