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Cephalic Trauma 01-15-2013 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9321717)
I know this is a twitter quote, but I feel like it could bring some discussion. And I havne't watched much of Joekel, but someone who has, is this right?


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But here's the thing, if Joeckel is Jonathan Ogden and Geno Smith is Alex Smith (solid comparisons), which would you rather have?
Dude, you post shit like that in here:
1. You'll get negged.
2. SNR is going to have to take an extra dose of Prozac tonight.

O.city 01-15-2013 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9321750)
3 out of 11 drives on offense (I didn't count the drive with the bad call) resulted in points while the rest were bad and going 0/10 on 3rd down in his bowl game is not concern to you?
Well, then it comes to, do you evaluate a single game, or the body of work?

ARROW2 01-15-2013 05:07 PM
All of this pussy ass talk of not taking a QB is pissing me the **** off....

IAmABabySeal 01-15-2013 05:08 PM
This guy blows

DJ's left nut 01-15-2013 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9321636)
I also think the "Geno can't make reads" is a little overblown. In that video, we see that he can, I just don't think in that offense he was asked to very often.
He forced it into covered WRs every single time.

That's how he managed to complete 72% of his passes and only throw 6 picks. It was awful decision-making and dumb luck - the end.

I just...ugh...people are just so dumb. Sooooooooo dumb.

There are legitimate arguments to be made with the guy; odd mechanics in his lower half and an arm that is merely good, not great. But Jesus, why do people continue to make shit up? What evidence is there in his entire body of work that he was forcing throws to his first read on every play?

I hate everyone.

O.city 01-15-2013 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9321768)
He forced it into covered WRs every single time.

That's how he managed to complete 72% of his passes and only throw 6 picks. It was awful decision-making and dumb luck - the end.

I just...ugh...people are just so dumb. Sooooooooo dumb.

There are legitimate arguments to be made with the guy; odd mechanics in his lower half and an arm that is merely good, not great. But Jesus, why do people continue to make shit up? What evidence is there in his entire body of work that he was forcing throws to his first read on every play?

I hate everyone.
I guess we need him to make 3 reads on every play. I dunno.

ARROW2 01-15-2013 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9321774)
I guess we need him to make 3 reads on every play. I dunno.


I'm ready to just throw in the towel and say draft Joeckel.



Yeah, let's be like Miami and pass on Matt Ryan for Jake Long......See what that got them....

ARROW2 01-15-2013 05:13 PM
If Geno is Matt Ryan and Luke is Jake Long....who would you pick? Two can play that game..

duncan_idaho 01-15-2013 05:14 PM
Positive note:

I got at least one convert out of the thread I've dominated at PowerMizzou. Didn't even need to resort to using the LSU game tape to do it, either (though that tape shows a LOT of the strengths Geno has that SOME of us love).

Lot of truefan sentiment in there. ONe guy who can't believe Albert grades out as a top 10 LT... Despite the grades link being shared with him.

IAmABabySeal 01-15-2013 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9321781)
If Geno is Matt Ryan and Luke is Jake Long....who would you pick? Two can play that game..
Top 3 OT in the league or a guy who can barely win a playoff game with superior talent all around him....very tough question:rolleyes:

ARROW2 01-15-2013 05:16 PM
We already have Branden ****ing Albert!!!

I_AM_Chief 01-15-2013 05:16 PM
629 pages on Geno freaking Smith really shows how far this organization has fallen. Christ what a fail. Chiefs will continue to be the Chiefs if we draft Geno.

Three7s 01-15-2013 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by I_AM_Chief (Post 9321795)
629 pages on Geno freaking Smith really shows how far this organization has fallen. Christ what a fail. Chiefs will continue to be the Chiefs if we draft Geno.
Banned

duncan_idaho 01-15-2013 05:19 PM
Also, what kind of genius compares Luke Joeckel to Jonathan Ogden?

The same type that compares Geno Smith to Tim Tebow?

I mean, come on. Ogden was a physical monster/freak of nature at 6'9/300+ who was clearly going to be dominant in both phases of the game because he had elite LT athleticism in a road grader body, a combo that no DL can really match in either phase of the game.

Joeckel is NOWHERE close to that. He's NOT a physical specimen (for an OT).

Insane.

DJ's left nut 01-15-2013 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9321736)
Ogden was a first ballot HOF'er.


I mean, it would be hard to turn that down.
Joeckel is not Ogden. Ogden was a road-grater and a monster of a human being with TE athleticism.

Joeckel is a big guy that's athletic for a big guy. He's a longer-armed version of Jake Long. He's a top 10 LT in the league that probably doesn't project as much of a run blocker.

Hell, he's Ryan !@#$ing Clady.

He's NOT Jonathan Ogden.


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