He's a difficult cover, though. I don't know that anybody on KU can defend him. They've also got two other guys that hit 43% from 3.

Florida would be an interesting matchup for MU. They shoot more 3s than just about anybody in the country, are very efficient offensively, and play little defense at all. That could be an awesome game to watch.

Interesting.....if Mizzou is truly the last #2 seed, then why isn't Mizzou in the South with the #1 overall seed Kentucky? There is no conference conflicts (Baylor could easily by a 3 somewhere else), and there is no location issues. Seems fishy to me. General consensus was that Duke was the weakest #2 seed (even KCC has been dissing on Duke for awhile), and they got the draw of the weakest #2. KU got to stay closer to home than OSU, and OSU got the tougher draw with Syracuse. What the committee has said and what is on paper does not seem to mesh.

In any event, I was disappointed at first, as I thought Mizzou's best chance would be through St. Louis. However, I like the region Mizzou is in, and I think if they play their best basketball, they can make a serious final four run.

Okay, enough about Detroit...anyone know anything about Norfolk?

FYP

I don't know. They're #8 overall, but they get to be in the worst #1's regional, avoid UK, and have a virtual bye in Norfolk. Seems pretty fortunate to me.

KU was #5 overall, so Midwest makes sense for them.

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They're really bad. They probably should be in one of the play-in games (2nd worst team in the tournament by KenPom), not a 15. It seems they played and almost beat Marquette somehow, so the committee rewarded them for that. It will be a blowout.

It's not always perfect... there's a lot to consider, so the S curve isn't set in stone. I've seen oddities before where it doesn't match up perfectly. With UNC and MSU, it seemed like they didn't think either deserved the 3rd #1, so they treated them both like 4th #1s and shipped them. KU was the 1st #2, so they got regional preference.

Okay...that makes sense...but if Mizzou was the last #2, they should have been matched up with Kentucky no matter what. If we take what the committee says and compare it to what they did, it is more than odd...none of it really matches.

Not that matters anyway. The brackets are set, let March Madness begin!

I like our bracket other than Florida. That one scares me.

From what I can gather...Florida plays no defense whatsoever. On paper they look scary, but I think Mizzou could cause enough turnovers and play enough defense to take them out.

I think Mizzou can keep up with any team in the nation when it comes to scoring.

They keep regions in mind though, so it's not perfect... it's obvious why they would want Duke in the south with Kentucky, and MU couldn't have gone to the East since OSU wasn't going to be in MSU's region. I had a couple of the shows on earlier, and I do remember them saying something about keeping teams close to home... and that's always part of it. They tend ship the 4th #1 and then reward the top #2 with region (as a consolation for not being a 1 seed), and try to keep others close to home. Since it was Midwest/East heavy this year, it was obviously hard to do.

Florida plays Virginia in the first round. I know UVA has been struggling lately, but other than that, don't know much about them. How are they on defense? Maybe they could spring the upset on Florida.

From the looks of it, first round should be very winnable. Second round does not look horrible for Mizzou either. I think if Haith has these guys ready to play, and they come out focused, they will make it out of the first weekend.

Virginia is damn good, too. They could easily beat Florida. Gotta win tough games, though. Thats the way it goes.

Sounds like the first round game should be cakewalk, so hopefully Mizzou can get up early and cruise, that will keep them fresh for the second round, and allow Denmon and English to get a little extra rest to help with their issues.

Hopefully. Virginia versus Florida should be a good game.

Sounds like we play Friday which is good for Denmon's ankle. The opening line is Mizzou -21. I would be all over Mizzou, but I could see Haith pulling the starters early.

Still think we cover 21 at halftime.

Hope you are right. The extra day off is a gift as well. Hopefully it helps. Friday cannot get here fast enough though!

Yes, Omaha is Friday/Sunday.

Mizzou is the biggest first round favorite. KU is favored by 12, and I would take Detroit.

I don't see KU losing, but if the KU that played on Friday against Baylor shows up, it might still be a close game with 5-6 minutes left.

Obviously, it's one game at a time in this tournament.

But, why aren't MU fans about Marquette?

They're damn good.

I am not looking past the first weekend till we get there.

Also, why the hell is Marquette always in our bracket? Seems like we have had a number of tourney games with them.

Mizzou plays at 3:40PM

I would Marquette.

Heh, know what I mean -- not what I type.

The best pro in that game may not play for Kansas.

Checked in to see what everyone thinks about the MU team but just see posts on Kansas. You know guys there is a KU thread and you're welcome to come post in it if you are wondering about KU and their chances.

Good post. You don't care about Mizzou.

MU is in the tourney. I research all the teams in the tourney.

I just don't get you keep posting obsessively about KU.

Is it because you live there?

Actually, he should not care about the tourney as a whole...after all, it is the regular season that matters most. The rest is just a crap shoot.

The KU posts in this thread have mainly been from KCC and other KU folks. Nice to know you care!

That goes into 5 OTs.

I'm sure you feel the need to do your due diligence about Mizzou. Just doing some investigating. Have fun living in New Jersey.

I've never said the tourney is a crapshoot.

Is everything you post on this board just completely wrong?

Why do you even keep trying?

I would settle for 4 OTs...but five works. :D

I don't get why you're being hostile. If you have something to say about KU post it in the KU thread. I'm interested in everyone's opinions on the team I root for.

Why clutter up this thread with KU information? Doesn't make sense.

We all share the same opinions since we root for the same team, duh... some douche on phog.net says they don't care about Missouri, so none of us do.

It's a weird complex.


I've never seen the same old crap carried on for so long though... well, CP is kind of known for it, but damn... let. it. go.

I think I will post whatever I please in this thread. You're welcome to obsess over us in whichever thread you please be it from your old home in Kansas or your current rental in New Jersey.

Wickedson has droned on about how much the regular season matters....he came into the Mizzou thread, so he gets what he gets. If I had gone into the KU thread and posted that, he would have to cause to bitch...as it is, he is trolling the Mizzou thread, so he can officially **** off.

Nobody on here says they don't care about Mizzou while continuing to check every Mizzou thread, right?

He has done more than check...he is like the house guest that never leaves.

I care about my opponent. My stance on the subject has never waivered.

You try to portray me as something I'm not and I don't get why

If MU is in the tourney next year I will check in on the thread and see what the fans think of the team.

My interest lies with what KU needs to win Championships. MU no longer factors into that until March. It's not rocket science here.

So what are you trying to learn?

I am willing to bet you will be in next season's thread long before March.

I thought MU being the biggest first round favorite was interesting.

Don't see why KU needed to be added to that statement.

No big deal.

If MU is a top 10 team like Kansas then I concede you may be correct. The top teams get attention by all the other top teams.

Also, I'm inviting you guys to post in the KU thread as originally stated.

If you think Detroit will cover or beat KU put it in there.

I wasn't trying to start a fight.

I dunno, you guys flood this place with so many "don't care about Mizzou" and all the other repetitive stuff, it's hard to point out the last time a KU fan actually said any of it. I'm just here for CBB and my own entertainment, so I wish you guys could come up with some new material that's not completely run into the ground after two days. Wickedson is obviously bored and came in here to get a reaction... and maybe he doesn't deserver your A game, but a bot could do better than "they don't care about Mizzou".

Basically Saul talked about MU and said some stuff about KU. Wickedson came in here, found it offensive and rattled off.

This is an MU thread. I'm a KU fan, i frequent this thread alot. I like to talk basketball and see what my teams BIGGEST rival is up too.

Sorry if I stir shit like Wickedson.

Wickedson is not intelligent enough to handle the A game, it has to be dumbed down to a level he understands.

And really, I don't know what's so hard to understand about the whole "KU fans don't care about Mizzou" anyway.... so what if we didn't care about Missouri before this year, and all of a sudden care? They're one of the best teams in the nation... shouldn't you be happy that your team made the rivalry much more relevant? I think Frank Martin and other coaches have said as much... it's not a rivalry when it's lopsided. Not to say you need KU fans to care, but it's a good thing... :shrug:

I welcome the posters in here. Mizzou is a huge deal in KC, and this is a KC board. There's a reason the line gets thrown back in certain faces, though.

I don't think you stir shit. You are cool in my book.

Please. You've been so wrong on so many posts in the last month that you should be the last person calling someone "unintelligent".

Only in your mind....only in your mind.

Anyway, back to basketball



What do you guys think of that potential matchup with Marquette. I think they could give you guys some problems. They play alot like MU. Guard oriented team. Should be a good game.


Although if you guys play like you did ths weekend, gonna be tough to beat.

huh????

All the national media says KU is being petty and stupid, KU is the only school that hangs banners from the Helms era of National Championships...

you want more?

Pretty much. You've never claimed not to care about Mizzou that I've seen, and I've never claimed not to care about KU.

Before this season, I pulled for Kansas whenever they weren't playing Mizzou. Their fans just became such ridiculous pussies when Mizzou did exactly what any school would have done that I lost all respect for the Jayhawks.

And there is where we have a disagreement.

I've seen them several times and was never overly impressed. Doubt we play them.

I think we can beat Marquette...but I would rather see Murray State pull the upset there.

I think MU's guards are better as a unit than just about anyone's. Marquette finished behind Notre Dame in the Big East and we handled them...but who knows.

I am trying real hard not to look past the first weekend. One game at a time.

Honestly I think alot of that is jealousy. MU got to go to a spot KU and all the other BIg 12 teams would like to go.

Marquette is pretty tough defensively. Their post guy, Crowder, is alot like Ratliffe, but can step away and knock down perimeter shots.


If their guards can shoot it well, it could be a close game.

I'd like to see you guys matchup with Murray State.

Of course it is. I was jealous of Nebraska. We kind of dumb lucked our way into an even better situation. Some people just like to pretend that Mizzou owes something to the conference.

I thought it was shitty of MU to leave, for my own selfish purposes, but from a business perspective, **** yeah they made the right decision.

I don't want to see this rivalry die. I'd love them to keep playing but even then it wouldn't be the same.


Although if every year were like this year, I don't think I could handle it. lol.

I like you. Don't want you take this the wrong way or anything but we pretty much know every single perspective of yours or answer to a question is going to be very middle of the road and diplomatic.

Break out of your shell bro. Offend someone.

Thanks man. I try.


This is the MU thread. I don't wanna come in here and start cracking skulls.

Don't get me wrong, as a KU fan, it's tough for me. But I'm not gonna put on the Jayhawk glasses and go all true fan.

Come on....make them hate you too! :D

Marquette is a very good team. I think both will make the S16, but I have not decided who I think is going to win that game.

Missouri would destroy Murray St. I think Murray St. is going out in round 1, though.

We will sincerely miss your respect and support.


MU is rolling to the Final Four. I don't see any team that will give them a real hang-up before then.

Nate Silver's (from the NYT political blog 538 and formerly from Baseball Prospectus) statistical odds for the FF are out:

Final 4 advancement odds, Midwest: UNC 37%, Kansas 35%, Michigan 5%, Georgetown 4%, Purdue 4%.

Final 4 advancement odds, East: Ohio St. 41%, Syracuse 28%, Wisconsin 10%, Vanderbilt 7%, Florida St. 5%

Final 4 advancement odds, West: Missouri 26%, Mich. St. 20%, New Mexico 11%, Marquette 11%, Memphis 10%, Louisville 8%

Final 4 advancement odds, South region: Kentucky 57%, Duke 17%, Baylor 9%, Indiana 5%, Wichita St. 5%


He has Missouri as the favorite in the West. But it's a deep region.

Talk shit. That's part of what makes sports/rivalries enjoyable. Sitting on the fence isn't fun. Nothing wrong with being respectful, but sometimes you have to get your venom on.

Interesting quote by Jason King on his blog:

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation

It comes into play after the stats do, clearly.

I guess. Seems to me that Mizzou is the bottom 2 seed only based on where the games are being played. They have the worst of the #1 seeds, they got the weakest #15, and the teams in the bottom half of their bracket do not seem as good. Duke seems more like the bottom #2 seed...the only edge Duke gets is playing in Atlanta. They get the best #1 seed in Kentucky, the best #3 in Baylor, and, according to you..the best #15 seed in years.

Location wise...Mizzou is the bottom #2. Opponent wise, I think the Tigers got a favorable draw, and hope they play their best ball of the year to take advantage of it.

So if Mizzou had lost to Baylor, you would have put them at a #3? That seems a bit ridiculous, given their top five ranking and all.

Another interesting blog post, this time from Myron Medcalf...

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation