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SAUTO 12-10-2012 02:21 PM

anyone want a GOOD laugh?


my buddy just bet me actual money that COLIN KLEIN gets drafted BEFORE geno smith does...


im still laughing my ass off.

SAUTO 12-10-2012 02:22 PM

his reasoning?


klein was up for the heisman so he HAS to be better and all those heisman QBs have great track records getting drafted high a\nd having successful nfl careers


LMAO ROFL

DBOSHO 12-10-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9196905)
anyone want a GOOD laugh?


my buddy just bet me actual money that COLIN KLEIN gets drafted BEFORE geno smith does...


im still laughing my ass off.

Nice.

I have a bet with a buddy after he claimed that GENO wouldn't go in the top 20

Pitt Gorilla 12-10-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9196905)
anyone want a GOOD laugh?


my buddy just bet me actual money that COLIN KLEIN gets drafted BEFORE geno smith does...


im still laughing my ass off.

If he's offering real money, I'd love some of that action.

vailpass 12-10-2012 02:28 PM

By all means, please draft Geno Smith number one overall.

wazu 12-10-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9196926)
By all means, please draft Geno Smith number one overall.

Yes. That is the plan.

DBOSHO 12-10-2012 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9196926)
By all means, please draft Geno Smith number one overall.

He'll be better than osweiler by the time manning calls it quits so thanks for the permission.

RealSNR 12-10-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9196908)
his reasoning?


klein was up for the heisman so he HAS to be better and all those heisman QBs have great track records getting drafted high a\nd having successful nfl careers


LMAO ROFL

And they say there's no such thing as free money...

RealSNR 12-10-2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9196926)
By all means, please draft Geno Smith number one overall.

Cute troll attempt. It's adorable.

vailpass 12-10-2012 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 9196942)
He'll be better than osweiler by the time manning calls it quits so thanks for the permission.

Denver's backup QB is your standard for measuring a #1 overall draft pick?

vailpass 12-10-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9196949)
Cute troll attempt. It's adorable.

? Not trolling at all. Some of you want it so bad you want it too bad. Like I said, as a division rival I would love to see KC spend a #1 overall pick on Geno Smith.

RealSNR 12-10-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9196958)
? Not trolling at all. Some of you want it so bad you want it too bad. Like I said, as a division rival I would love to see KC spend a #1 overall pick on Geno Smith.

Sorry. In this thread I've had to shit on so many rival trolls who laugh at us getting Geno Smith that it's a natural reaction.

vailpass 12-10-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9196966)
Sorry. In this thread I've had to shit on so many rival trolls who laugh at us getting Geno Smith that it's a natural reaction.

Completely understand.

Hammock Parties 12-10-2012 11:11 PM

:facepalm:

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@ShawnZobel_DHQ Do you think the Chiefs take a QB with the first or second pick?

@ShawnZobel_DHQ
I don't think I would

Sorter 12-10-2012 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9198868)
:facepalm:

That fat piece of shit is a moron. Who cares what he thinks?

In58men 12-10-2012 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9198868)
:facepalm:

Wait until the combine. That's when everyone jumps on the ban wagon.

Dontari Poe ring a bell. Excellent combine.

silver5liter 12-10-2012 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9198868)
:facepalm:

Look at his mock, he has barkley going 11th over all and geno falling to the 2nd round. what a joke. I wish.

keg in kc 12-10-2012 11:19 PM

You guys'll love this one: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ition-rankings

Saccopoo 12-10-2012 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9196958)
? Not trolling at all. Some of you want it so bad you want it too bad. Like I said, as a division rival I would love to see KC spend a #1 overall pick on Geno Smith.

No you don't.

Geno Smith is going to stick it up the ass of the Donkeys for the next 15 years.

You've got Manning for two.

Prepare yourself for a huge mother ****ing letdown for the next two decades. Osweiler is going to make the post-Elway Brian Griese years look like the Gold Standard for quarterbacking.

Geno Mother ****ing Smith bitches. They guy is going to destroy worlds.

ILChief 12-10-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9198893)

That has to be a joke

Sorter 12-10-2012 11:22 PM

that joke of a website makes me sick.

RealSNR 12-10-2012 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9198893)

You can tell that guy was just like, "Aww.. come on... nobody cares about these shitty teams I have picking in the top 5... they get fatties. Ahh here we go. Arizona is awesome! They get a QB!"

keg in kc 12-10-2012 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9198909)
You can tell that guy was just like, "Aww.. come on... nobody cares about these shitty teams I have picking in the top 5... they get fatties. Ahh here we go. Arizona is awesome! They get a QB!"

I was starting to think he didn't have any players on his list but guys from notre dame and linemen.

True fan wet dream draft there.

BigCatDaddy 12-11-2012 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9198868)
:facepalm:

Quit posting shit from the HS football jock washer.

Rasputin 12-11-2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9198893)

Ha Ha good thing the rapers are going to rape us this weekend. We are going get the the #1 pick. GENO SMITH!

Imon Yourside 12-11-2012 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9198909)
You can tell that guy was just like, "Aww.. come on... nobody cares about these shitty teams I have picking in the top 5... they get fatties. Ahh here we go. Arizona is awesome! They get a QB!"

Man I hope they don't get any info from Pissoli, we're screwed dude.

RUSH 12-11-2012 01:37 PM

I love this guy...refreshing that he speaks his mind

Eugene Geno Smith
@GenoSmith_12

To say SB3 is a third round pic is absurd, the guy dominated every corner he lined up against.

Eugene Geno Smith @GenoSmith_12

Once again politics playing a bigger role than production, which in fact robs the guy from well deserved accolades and discredits hard work.

Eugene Geno Smith @GenoSmith_12

One thing I do know is that NFL GM's and coaches will be selecting on draft day, NOT over opinionated analyst with ZERO coaching/playing exp

Eugene Geno Smith @GenoSmith_12

I could care less about awards because once again my only goal is to WIN games. Nothing else matters!

Hammock Parties 12-11-2012 01:40 PM

Nice that he tweets like a person who speaks english too.

WildTurkey 12-11-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RUSH (Post 9199928)
I love this guy...refreshing that he speaks his mind

Eugene Geno Smith
@GenoSmith_12

To say SB3 is a third round pic is absurd, the guy dominated every corner he lined up against.

Eugene Geno Smith @GenoSmith_12

Once again politics playing a bigger role than production, which in fact robs the guy from well deserved accolades and discredits hard work.

Eugene Geno Smith @GenoSmith_12

One thing I do know is that NFL GM's and coaches will be selecting on draft day, NOT over opinionated analyst with ZERO coaching/playing exp

Eugene Geno Smith @GenoSmith_12

I could care less about awards because once again my only goal is to WIN games. Nothing else matters!

Damn I love me some Chocolate pain.

Hammock Parties 12-11-2012 01:44 PM

Russ Lande must come from the Pioli school of scouting. His top 10 is almost ENTIRELY offensive and defensive linemen.

Geno and Tyler Wilson are rated 38th and 40th best prospects, BELOW Barkley.

Glennon is his highest rated QB. LMAO

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...ects-5904.html

RunKC 12-11-2012 01:53 PM

Mel Kiper just said Geno is the 2nd best QB in the draft and Glennon can go first.

I like Glennon and I think that's stupid. Geno is clear number 1.

O.city 12-11-2012 01:55 PM

Kiper just bought his ticket to Jamarcus's HOF induction..............

RUSH 12-11-2012 01:56 PM

Speaking of the Pioli school of scouting check out this gem...

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I should add that if the Chiefs do sign a veteran, they'll likely spend their second-round pick on N.C. State's Mike Glennon. I've heard from very reliable sources that Pioli really likes Glennon. Mel Kiper, by the way, stated that Glennon could be the first signal-caller off the board, so maybe the Wolfpack product will be the quarterback who rises to the top of the draft.
http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php

O.city 12-11-2012 01:57 PM

Good thing Pioli won't be making the pick.

Tribal Warfare 12-11-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RUSH (Post 9199970)
Speaking of the Pioli school of scouting check out this gem...



http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php

ROFL

Pioli can have Glennon in his internet fantasy draft, when his ass fired.

RunKC 12-11-2012 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUSH (Post 9199970)
Speaking of the Pioli school of scouting check out this gem...



http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php

Glennon is a good QB who plays in a team with no head coach and D2 at best WR's. He's better than people give him credit for.

He has the strongest arm in the draft and might be the smartest QB in the draft.

Nobody is the clear number 1 QB that stands out. It's anybody's game, though I think Geno has the upper hand.

htismaqe 12-11-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9199978)
Good thing Pioli won't be making the pick.

Exactly.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-11-2012 02:34 PM

Sweet Lord, Peeholi is an absolute ****ing moran.

The Franchise 12-11-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9199944)
Russ Lande must come from the Pioli school of scouting. His top 10 is almost ENTIRELY offensive and defensive linemen.

Geno and Tyler Wilson are rated 38th and 40th best prospects, BELOW Barkley.

Glennon is his highest rated QB. LMAO

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...ects-5904.html

Yeah.....well considering he had DeCastro rated ahead of Trent Richardson last year......I won't be valuing his opinion at all.

Oh and he rated Coby Fleener above RGIII.

Hammock Parties 12-11-2012 02:40 PM

Yep, that dude has some kind of connection to drafting lunchpail slapdicks over real talent.

Hammock Parties 12-11-2012 02:42 PM

SPARKLIN' RESUME

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As a Scout for the Browns, Russ evaluated all senior players at over 70 Midwest colleges and universities. He was recognized as having found Billy Cundiff in the fall of 2001, having rated him as a future starting NFL place kicker.

BigCatDaddy 12-11-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9200077)
SPARKLIN' RESUME

LMAO

htismaqe 12-11-2012 04:22 PM

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Well guys, Kevin Keitzman is on the Geno Smith bandwagon.

O.city 12-11-2012 10:32 PM

This needs to be on the front page.

bowener 12-12-2012 12:21 AM

An anagram for Geno Smith is SOMETHING. That's got to mean... something!!1!!11

RealSNR 12-12-2012 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 9201549)
An anagram for Geno Smith is SOMETHING. That's got to mean... something!!1!!11

I did not know that.

Thank you for sharing!

htismaqe 12-12-2012 07:37 AM

For anybody interested in reading the whole story behind that Ourlads pic I posted, it is here:

http://www.ourlads.com/top-32-colleg...t/2013/1885185

O.city 12-12-2012 09:49 AM

Front page.


Visitors need to see this.

the Talking Can 12-12-2012 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9201806)
For anybody interested in reading the whole story behind that Ourlads pic I posted, it is here:

http://www.ourlads.com/top-32-colleg...t/2013/1885185

that's a sane list...though I'd be shocked if Wilson doesn't go top 15 based on the need for QBs..

htismaqe 12-12-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9202080)
that's a sane list...though I'd be shocked if Wilson doesn't go top 15 based on the need for QBs..

That's more of a "best player" list than a draft prediction list.

Which makes it all the more interesting - in a draft that supposedly lacks elite QBs, Dan Shonka is basically saying that Geno Smith is the most talented player in the draft at any position.

the Talking Can 12-12-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9202143)
That's more of a "best player" list than a draft prediction list.

Which makes it all the more interesting - in a draft that supposedly lacks elite QBs, Dan Shonka is basically saying that Geno Smith is the most talented player in the draft at any position.

ahh....even better

Chiefnj2 12-12-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9202143)
That's more of a "best player" list than a draft prediction list.

Which makes it all the more interesting - in a draft that supposedly lacks elite QBs, Dan Shonka is basically saying that Geno Smith is the most talented player in the draft at any position.

Do you really think Smith is the best player in the draft? Take the Chiefs out of the equation.

htismaqe 12-12-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9202264)
Do you really think Smith is the best player in the draft? Take the Chiefs out of the equation.

Yep, I do.

This is a mediocre draft at the top.

Jones has health issues. Joeckel isn't a top-tier NFL LT. Te'o is an ILB.

Can you find a single player, at any position, that has more value than Smith?

Tribal Warfare 12-12-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9202264)
Do you really think Smith is the best player in the draft? Take the Chiefs out of the equation.

Yes, most impacting during a game

Sorter 12-12-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9202270)
Yep, I do.

This is a mediocre draft at the top.

Jones has health issues. Joeckel isn't a top-tier NFL LT. Te'o is an ILB.

Can you find a single player, at any position, that has more value than Smith?

Werner/Star are the only two that are a distant 2nd IMO, along with Jones.

suds79 12-12-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9202264)
Do you really think Smith is the best player in the draft? Take the Chiefs out of the equation.

That question leads me to believe you subscribe to the theory that the best player in the draft should go #1.

Because that idea I disagree with. The best player in the draft could be a Guard. A almost useless position.

The #1 pick the draft should always go to the best QB, LT, or pass rusher in any given draft IMO.

So from that aspect, I think Geno is the best QB in the draft and QB happens to be the most valuable position by far. Good enough for me.

Tribal Warfare 12-12-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9202270)
Yep, I do.

This is a mediocre draft at the top.

Jones has health issues. Joeckel isn't a top-tier NFL LT. Te'o is an ILB.

Can you find a single player, at any position, that has more value than Smith?

Star Lotulelei is only one but there's a grand canyon gap concerning their effect on the game which Geno has the advantage.

Sorter 12-12-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 9202281)
That question leads me to believe you subscribe to the theory that the best player in the draft should go #1.

Because that idea I disagree with. The best player in the draft could be a Guard. A almost useless position.

The #1 pick the draft should always go to the best QB, LT, or pass rusher in any given draft IMO.

So from that aspect, I think Geno is the best QB in the draft and QB happens to be the most valuable position by far. Good enough for me.

^^This.

htismaqe 12-12-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9202275)
Werner/Star are the only two that are a distant 2nd IMO, along with Jones.

Star plays a non-premium position. Are you really going to draft a DT #1 overall?

htismaqe 12-12-2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9202285)
Star Lotulelei is only one but there's a grand canyon gap concerning their effect on the game which Geno has the advantage.

Exactly.

If Star is the player everybody can think of, then the scenario at hand is basically taking Glenn Dorsey instead of Matt Ryan.

Who is going to do that?

Answer? NOBODY.

Sorter 12-12-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9202289)
Star plays a non-premium position. Are you really going to draft a DT #1 overall?

If the rest of my team was loaded and there were no pass rushers and I couldn't trade down, sure.

Bu barring all that, **** no I am not, in any way drafting Star at #1 overall.

Tribal Warfare 12-12-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9202289)
Star plays a non-premium position. Are you really going to draft a DT #1 overall?

Yes,he's a legit Hatoli Ngata/Cortez Kennedy type. The guy is flat out dominant.

Molitoth 12-12-2012 11:30 AM

Teams should just roll with Best NEEDED position available.
In the Chiefs case, Geno Smith should come off the board at Number 1.

Not any of this value bullshit.

htismaqe 12-12-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9202302)
Yes,he's a legit Hatoli Ngata/Cortez Kennedy type. The guy is flat out dominant.

And still not worth the #1 overall pick. He plays a non-impact position.

Sorter 12-12-2012 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9202302)
Yes,he's a legit Hatoli Ngata/Cortez Kennedy type. The guy is flat out dominant.

I haven't really watched him. If he isn't a monster as a pass rusher, then I'm not drafting him in the top #3.

Tribal Warfare 12-12-2012 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9202313)
And still not worth the #1 overall pick. He plays a non-impact position.

Do you remember how Cortez Kennedy would own Interior Linemen then destroying running/passing plays? If their was an LT or Reggie White yes I'd take him, but this guy is special. Still Geno is plays a more valued position, so he gets the nod.

Tribal Warfare 12-12-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9202329)
I haven't really watched him. If he isn't a monster as a pass rusher, then I'm not drafting him in the top #3.

The guy is a man, owning bitches while taking their lunch money.

Sorter 12-12-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9202334)
The guy is a man, owning bitches while taking their lunch money.

As a pass rusher? Because with the way the league is headed, I don't give a **** how good of a run stopper he is.


I have like 7 games of his that I plan on watching over this weekend. :)

htismaqe 12-12-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9202334)
The guy is a man, owning bitches while taking their lunch money.

He won't be able to do it like that in the NFL.

Haloti Ngata is a monster, a man-beast.

Even he can't single-handedly deliver a win.

Molitoth 12-12-2012 11:43 AM

Every team that has a questionable QB should be drafting one with the highest pick they have every year until they find one worth a shit. It is the most important position in any sport.

It's hard to say this, but The Cleveland Browns have been doing the right thing. Draft > Assess > Move on > Repeat. Eventually they will get a great QB, and The Chiefs will still be drafting DLine.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-12-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9200376)
Well guys, Kevin Keitzman is on the Geno Smith bandwagon.

http://www.wattstax.com/press_images...Triumphant.gif

Ya' DAAAAAAAAMMMMN right!

Sorter 12-12-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9202352)
Every team that has a questionable QB should be drafting one with the highest pick they have every year until they find one worth a shit. It is the most important position in any sport.

It's hard to say this, but The Cleveland Browns have been doing the right thing. Draft > Assess > Move on > Repeat. Eventually they will get a great QB, and The Chiefs will still be drafting DLine.

Not after this year. Geno finally ends that shit!!!!

RealSNR 12-12-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9202264)
Do you really think Smith is the best player in the draft? Take the Chiefs out of the equation.

It ain't any of this sub-par OTs.

It ain't Jarvis Jones, who sucks dick.

That brings it down to Teo and Star.

Tribal Warfare 12-12-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9202342)
As a pass rusher? Because with the way the league is headed, I don't give a **** how good of a run stopper he is.


I have like 7 games of his that I plan on watching over this weekend. :)

He collapses the pocket like a mad man while taking on at times triple teams thus far he has 5 sacks.

Brock 12-12-2012 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9202330)
Do you remember how Cortez Kennedy would own Interior Linemen then destroying running/passing plays?

I remember the Seahawks had 2 winning seasons in his entire career.

Hammock Parties 12-12-2012 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9202344)
He won't be able to do it like that in the NFL.

Haloti Ngata is a monster, a man-beast.

Even he can't single-handedly deliver a win.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...the-qb-problem

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Only two teams in the last 10 years have selected a non-quarterback first overall. Houston took Mario Williams in 2006 and Miami took Jake Long in 2008. Both of these players were everything these franchises could have hoped for in a number one pick. They both made All-Pro teams and have been considered amongst the league's best at their respective positions.

Yet it is possible that neither one will earn a second contract with their team. They have one combined playoff appearance amongst them, during Long's rookie year (Houston made the playoffs last year with Williams going on IR midway through last season). Despite his individual success, the Houston defense continued to be terrible after Williams was drafted. By the time it was good, they deemed him expendable. Long is facing a similar situation - he's a free agent after this season, but is having his worst year as a pro.

Any relevance and improvement the Dolphins have going forward is going to be completely tied to Ryan Tannehill. A quarterback selected in the first-round.

Hammock Parties 12-12-2012 12:45 PM

Matt Ryan's college numbers are a joke compared to Geno.

http://i.imgur.com/p7RAS.jpg

In fact, Tyler Wilson's college numbers are better than Matt Ryan's.

http://i.imgur.com/YyLyE.jpg

Buckweath 12-12-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9202313)
And still not worth the #1 overall pick. He plays a non-impact position.

??? As much as I want Geno Smith to be our pick, it's well-known that any Dline position is an impact position. I'm not sure the NT position is still the most important position in a 3-4 as many people thought before, but yeah 4-3 end, 4-3 DT, 3-4 end, they're all premium positions.

Star Lotulelei probably has Ngata, Smith or Watt's potential and those guys are so important for their defense. But yeah, a top QB is worth 10 times more.

Sorter 12-12-2012 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9202578)
Matt Ryan's college numbers are a joke compared to Geno.

http://i.imgur.com/p7RAS.jpg

In fact, Tyler Wilson's college numbers are better than Matt Ryan's.

http://i.imgur.com/YyLyE.jpg

How in the **** did Matt Ryan playing at BC throw for 4500 yds and manage a full yard lower in YPA than Wilson? I thought that was a pro-style offense he ran?

htismaqe 12-12-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 9202584)
??? As much as I want Geno Smith to be our pick, it's well-known that any Dline position is an impact position. I'm not sure the NT position is still the most important position in a 3-4 as many people thought before, but yeah 4-3 end, 4-3 DT, 3-4 end, they're all premium positions.

Star Lotulelei probably has Ngata, Smith or Watt's potential and those guys are so important for their defense. But yeah, a top QB is worth 10 times more.

Like Brock posted earlier, Cortez Kennedy was one of the best DTs of all time and his team not only didn't win a Super Bowl, they managed only 2 winning seasons in his entire time there.

The best 3-4 linemen in the NFL were almost exclusively acquired in the back half of the 1st round.

If you like at tackles taken high, all you see is a big string of busts.

We're not talking about picking 10th here, we're talking about picking FIRST.


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