The dropped picks crap is comletely reeruned.

Putting up a lot of points fools a lot of people too.

It doesn't explain the Jets coming really damn close to a Super Bowl two years straight. Or the 49ers being a goat performance away from an NFC conference championship. Or a Jim Caldwell offense ripped on by this board for being too conservative winning a Super Bowl. Or an extremely efficient Eli Manning offense winning his first Super Bowl.

It also doesn't explain why many of the explosive QBs have had such mixed success in the playoffs.

Putting up points isn't the only pre-req for postseason success.

It's pretty ****ing easy to see the stupidity:

How many of these game managers won the ****ing SB? OK. "Oh, but the Chiefs suck shit and winning in the playoffs would be good enough."

Yeah, no ****ing shit that it's an improvement. Is that the bar now? Or our the Chiefs actually expected to build to something? Accomplish something? If the goal is to replicate the "success" of the 90s, my bad.

If Alex ****ing Smith were a second-year player right now, we'd all be ecstatic. He's not. We're not. He's ****ing mediocre.

And don't ****ing compare him to E. Manning or Flacco again. Ridiculous, even in the most tangential sense.

Holy ****ing shit. Smith is comparable to a second-year player and a n00b? Smith must be a complete sack of shit.

ROFL

Great teams win in the playoffs. Elite offenses paired with average defenses or vice versa.


You can't win with an elite offense and shit defense, or an offense that is shit and an elite defense very often. Unless you have a guy like Rodgers just get on an ungodly level, which is extremely rare.

ok thanks now back to DC

I don't know what the **** your problem is tonight, but I wasn't making a case of Smith vs those two at all. I was just posting that 6 seemed pretty high.

Excuse me.

All of your examples include top 5 defenses, so that's the explanation. But, those elite defensive teams still need to put up points in the playoffs, and the easiest way to do that is with elite quarterback play.

A lot of explosive quarterbacks have mixed success in the playoffs because they're all playing each other in the playoffs every year, or they're playing top 5 defenses. If the Chiefs' efficient/game management offense can put up 35 points when it's needed, awesome, because they're going to need it as long as Peyton Manning is in the division and if they ever want to go deep into the playoffs.

No offense meant your way, dude.

I'm totally ****ing done with reading any excuses and/or justifications for Smith's mediocrity, and the obfuscation of this fact by some is ridiculous. At this point, just own it: Smith might not be good enough, but he's good enough for me.

Your post was simply a starting place. I'm not saying you believe any of the above, necessarily.

Ben Roethlisberger and Tom Brady won their first Super Bowl as game managers. Eli Manning won his first Super Bowl as a game manager. Joe Flacco has won a ton of playoff games as a game manager and won a Super Bowl last year as a game manager.

I haven't compared Alex Smith to these guys. Again, I said the difference between these guys and Smith is they played largely game management, but made big plays in big situations. Smith hasn't proven he can do that, but he also hasn't proven he can't. Why couldn't he be a guy that has a knack for uninspiring play but comes up big in big games? If not for a complete goat performance by Kyle Williams, the 49ers could very well have been on their way to a 2011 Super Bowl. Mark Sanchez, who played pretty much Alex Smith football his first two seasons, was extremely close to getting there too.

And how old were these players in paragraph one when they accomplished said things? OK. (And Flacco won as a "game manager." lol.)

I don't want to hear it. That's standing in the basement, talking about Smith's ceiling, claiming that it's good enough.

I ****ing hate the acquisition of Alex Smith and everything that it represents for the price that the Chiefs paid.

Sorry but the intellectual dishonesty with Eli and Flacco's Super Bowls is embarrassing.

These guys were doing things that Alex flat out does not do during their SB runs.

I'm not really sure what the age of said players has to do with it. Zilla isn't saying anything about Smith being or having the same ceiling as said guys.

I am not a fan of Alex Smith by any stretch. I am just saying the idea that a game managed team can't make a serious run at a Super Bowl is completely crazy talk. Or that they are any less of a contender than an explosive team like New Orleans or Green Bay, that are so explosive that they can't play defense, is crazy talk.