What model (X, Sport, Sahara, Rubicon)?
Any lift, bigger than stock tires?
Never heard of the 4.0 being called underpowered and over-weight but it’s not exactly a power monster either. They’re made more for torque than peak power.

It is the Sport if I remember right..no lift..tires are bigger than stock..I will need to put a lift under it..probably a 2.5 or 3 inch

I think compared to the new 3.6 Pentastar is what they compare it to that leads to it being called heavy and underpowered

I am not to worried about the power..it will be a daily driver and a every so often off road mud slinger..I will do do upgrades but nothing crazy

:thumb: Wranglers with a set of stock-ish size tires that have an aggressive tread will actually go impressive places. It will surprise you.

I imagine so..I used to have a 91 S-10 Blazer I had mud tires on and that damn thing would go just about anywhere in 2wd..it was so light it sat on top of everything

From what I have been reading the 2.5 and 3 inch is as high as you can or want to go before you have to start getting into new driveshafts, control arms, and really watching the track bar to get it all centered

So I will probably just go with the 2.5 with a little bigger tire and I will probably put 4.10 gears in it to give it the extra grunt on bottom..I never drive fast in any of my rides anyway so I'm not worried about top end speed

:thumb: Good choice.
With 4.10 gears you should be good for 31-32" tires, and with the OD transmission still be able to hit the highway if needed.

You've probably seen stuff like this but here's a handy little chart for figuring gear ratio vs. tire size.

http://www.jeep4x4center.com/jeep-ti...atio-chart.htm

You guys know anything about a possible Chrysler and GM merger?
http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...er-email-to-gm

TURIN (Reuters) - The chairman of Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, John Elkann, today confirmed that CEO Sergio Marchionne had sent an email to General Motors about a possible tie-up. Elkann said discussions had taken place with other players as well.


The New York Times on Saturday reported that Marchionne had sent an email to GM CEO Mary Barra in March suggesting that the two companies combine.


Marchionne said on Thursday he could not confirm the report. He said he writes "lots of emails."


"It was not the only email, it was not the only conversation," Elkann told reporters today when asked about the New York Times report.
Marchionne's email suggested a merged GM and Fiat Chrysler would save billions of dollars in costs and create an automotive giant, according to the paper. The idea of a merger did not interest Barra or any other GM executives, the report said.

I bought a new ford truck today. I wasn't looking until I saw your posts.

Your ****ing killing me here.

I'm on the XPlan pricing so there wan't much to negotiate. I did get the dealership to throw in a spray in bed liner and they were running a lifetime warranty promotion that I also received.

I could have destroyed x plan pricing~ ;)

What could you have done for http://superiorfordnwa.net/Northwest...ruck/40628056/

So when the Focus RS comes out that means you'll get it to me for $1000 under dealer "invoice" and no delivery charge? :D

Likely wont be able to do it on things like Focus RS, 50th anniv Mustangs. GT350s, Raptors, etc. And 'delivery' listed on the sticker is 100% charged to us a cost on the vehicle as part of the invoice price.

F-150s I can do it all day.

Cant go back of invoice on any truck that does not belong to me. However I have a similar truck on the lot that I could do it on.

Without spending a bunch of time digging into it my guess is I could have gone about 600-1000 under what X plan is on something like that.