Under 4:

Baylor 67
KSU 71

I can't ever remember a team with so many players on the verge of fouling out. Especially thius early.

@SethDavisHoops Seth davis
FIVE Baylor players have four fouls. Can't say it's a home whistle. K St amazing at taking charges.

bah, 6 in a row for BU. Terrible ball handling.

surely we can foul a couple of these guys out...

That's a killer

**** me, I want this.

damit

Final:

#4 Baylor 75
#18 Kansas State 73

LMAO Martin isn't happy. Good game Cats

"How about playing defense, Stan? Ever heard of that one?" LMAO

Ouch. What a way to piss away a game the refs hand you on a silver platter.

I wish you'd won that. Hell of a game. Big 12 road games are gonna be a bitch all year.

What a dick!

Too bad. I was Pullen for the 'Cats.

Eh, 1-2 was about what was expected to start the league. Bounce back the next few weeks then try and go 2-1 during that same 3 game stretch in February.

I wish our team would refuse to participate in that reeruned prayer circle Baylor does after the game.

@OU, UT, @OSU, @TTU, OU, @ISU, aTm, TTU, @UT

Games between now and the KU,MU, Baylor stretch again. 7-2 is what I want out of that. It's realistic.

I've never seen so many careless turnovers that lead to breakouts. There were two stretches in the second half that just killed the Cats. You can barely put Angel on the floor at this point. Against KU and now Baylor, he's been a deer in headlights.

I agree with you. I've been consistently impressed with Frank Martin. He's a hothead and sometimes doesn't moderate himself enough, but he's a damn fine coach who'll do great things for you guys. Until Donovan leaves FL :D

Trying to win in Columbia and Waco is gonna be a bitch. Gotta win the home games. Missed a big opportunity tonight.

Good game State.

Was pulling for you guys to pull off another upset.

I still think KSU will be very tough for anyone at the Octagon.

Not really. Stan knows what he is getting in to, especially after a tough loss. He is who he is with his emotions. He and Stan are very good friends off the court. Now, one of the things he left out, relative to his comments with Stan, was "and I substituted like a reerun having JO sitting on the bench, and not having JJ in instead of Angel." Seriously, WTF was he thinking?

Gotcha...used to be "until Miami comes calling" now it's "until any job in the state of Florida opens up" LMAO

It was odd that after all of the mistakes last night, he pulls JO for a lane violation and sits him the final three minutes. We could certainly have used him on the defensive glass at the end.

I love me some Frank, but I really think he let's his emotions cloud his judgement at times. There was NO REASON not to have JO in the game in the finally 4 minutes. I was sitting several rows behind Frank last night, and I tried to let him know. o:-)

That decision did hurt the team, no doubt. Gip wasn't really getting anything done at all against that length, and of course had the key travel at the end. I'll continue to scream from the rooftops, but until Gip figures out how to go to his right hand around the rim, he's going to be irrelevant against good teams. He actually spun that way once last night and I thought I was going to see that elusive right hand. Alas, he just ball faked and came back to his left (and actually flipped that one up and in).

why does Frank NEVER attack a player with 4 fouls?

Pertaining to Big Gip
 

Honestly, he needs to come in next season weighing NO MORE than 260 (hopefully less). He can be Quincy Acy (or better) at some point, but he's got to get more nimble and quicker on those feet. At this point, he's just too big to do what we do in our Offense at that position. I do agree with your point: Develop the right hand around the basket, and he can play with anyone.

My guess is he feels that trying to isolate will do more harm than good. Shuts down ball movement, people movement, etc. Not saying we shouldn't have those wrinkles in the offense, just guessing as to why we rarely do it.

:banghead:

Curtis Kitchen went full reerun:

http://curtiskitchen.com/will-k-stat...-frank-martin/

Someone might want to remind CK that the students are still on Winter Break until Monday.

Why would he leave OU for WVU?

Being demoted if he doesn't is a big reason.

I've heard there is some shit going on at OU. Bad shit.

How many boosters wives did old Venzie bang this time?

No, like coaches mistreating players, Mike Leach style.

30 minutes ago - by Rob Cassidy - Watson out four weeks with elbow injury
F James Watson was seen wearing a brace on his injured elbow before the game with Baylor on Tuesday. Coach Frank Martin said he expects the junior to miss four weeks. "If he was a pitcher, he'd have Tommy John surgery. But as a basketball player he should be fine."

He's the leading candidate to get FRANKED by the end of the season.

Do we have any update on Dawson? I kept hearing rumors in the past week or so that he was going to Wazzu, but haven't heard anything official...

Meanwhile, we **** around with Cosh...

:hmmm:

Any links or is it just speculation/rumors? I ****ing despise that school's football program.

Not to mention all the bigs we have coming in next year. He gone.

Frank's really been bad with JuCos, hasn't he? Not that I really care, it's just interesting.

KSU SID Kenny Lanou stated that Dawson was NOT leaving.

Don't count Omari out of this race.

game not on tv?

NBC

Under 16:

KSU 6
OU 7

ESPN 3 again for me.

Not the start we wanted, but it shaped up there in the last 1:30.

We might not be very good.

This isn't how I hoped the Cats would play.

Under 12:
KSU 10
OU 18

Man these commentators are the worst. Especially the color guy.

Jet playing good.

Under 8:

KSU 18
OU 24

OU is terrible. Cats playing as bad as they can and are only down 6.

This kind of game kills me. Play from behind, cut the margin to 2, let it get back to 7, cut the margin, ...

This is going to hinge on tough D, rebounds and Sprads hanging on to the ball.

F'ing Shane....

Yep. Not getting back on D is major sin today.

This is what they refer to as a classic trap game.

JFC. 3 TO's consecutively, two bunnies that won't fall and then a brick from Sprads. This is going to be 20 point loss.

Ku had the same type of game in norman last week and ran away in 2nd half. Keep your heads up.

LMAO

Thanks. I needed that.

Under 4:

KSU 23
OU 34

I didn't see that game, but I've seen this type of game many times from KSU. Cats aren't getting to the line. Aren't getting 2nd shots from the Oglass. This is a team, and coach, that hasn't gotten over the Baylor game.

It is really ****ing hard to win on the road in conference play.

Glad Jet came to play.

Halftime:


KSU 29
OU 38

Angel hasn't seen a minute yet has he?

It's true.

And I don't want to take too much away from OU's D, but KSU got a LOT of fine looks and only JJ hit anything. Very frustrating.

Weird game. Cats played as bad as I think they could defensively. Correct that and they should come out on top. Missed a ton of shots from guys that usually make them.

Under 16:

KSU 36
OU 47

Under 12:

KSU 47
OU 58

I just don't see it happening today.

this is a whole bucket of fail.

This is a rout. As my defense mechanisms kick in I feel "It's good to have expectations, that's why I feel bad when they lose a game to (what I feel) is an inferior opponent".

Mizzou beat these guys by 75 in Columbia, but the game in Norman still scares me. That's just how it works.

This game makes me want to puke. I'm sure glad I spent the money on ESPN Full Court.

Under 8:

KSU 54
OU 69

Lon clearly circled this one on his calendar.

KSU's making a nice little run.

c'mon wildcats ... pick it up.

I'd say that's the ball game.

There will be several of these until the situation with taking care of the ball is resolved. AND, it's round robin.

That's why losing a perfectly winnable game on Tuesday still stings.