I can hear the boos starting already. LMAO

That was the best game they've played all year. I wouldn't expect a win on Monday against a much better team on the road, but if they play anything like that again, they'll be there at the end.

A lot of Monday night might ride on the health of DeAndre Kane's ankle. He's been their best player so far, and if he's out, I like Kansas' chances.

I was really surprised at how well KU played overall. The way the game started, it looked to be a pretty tough game. This game was won with the 8 minutes or so with the second team in, where the second teamers built on the lead as KSU got tired an didn't have anybody to rotate. Those 4-5 guys put together some really really good minutes.

Pretty disappointed in the Embiid ejection. He played a great game, and ended it like that. Pretty shitty.

The other thing I'm surprised about is there wasn't much hacking, tackling, BS "physical" play that we've seen from them in the past. Maybe that was a Frank Martin thing and Weber won't bring that crap, but I was surprised to see how clean KSU played. Also, the officiating was the best I've seen in awhile. They didn't biff too many calls.

Looking forward to ISU. That will be a real test. Kane should be OK by Monday, it didn't look like much of a twist, unless I'm missing something. I'm sure ISU will fire all their guns Monday.

Didn't look to me like he twisted it that hard. Unless I'm missing something, he shouldn't miss a beat Monday.

I like our chances whether he plays or not. Our out of conference schedule has prepared us for games like this, and until ISU can find a way to knock us off I'm firmly going to believe we win that game.

They said he left the arena on crutches.

Should be in Self's doghouse which usually means you sit out the next game.

Guess we will see.

"Is it hard being right all the Tim, sapho?" they asked.

"Nope. It's fun, though," he replied.

****ing idiots.

Man. That's typically not good. It just didn't look that bad in the game. Like I said, I could have missed it.

I didn't think it looked that bad live either, but, then again he didn't even walk off the court. They had to carry him over to the bench.

That's usually my barometer for bad injury. The less bad it looks, the worse it is.

Might be his first time. He wasn't wearing a brace and if it hasn't ever happened to you before you definitely think the world is ending.

The best player on the team isn't sitting out one of the most important games of the season because he retaliated during a game.

I get that it's your thing, man, but who are all these idiots you always refer to?

Not a high ankle sprain. Might even be back Monday night.

He might be back for Monday but a bum wheel can not only affect your cutting and defense but also your jumper.

I hope he's 100% though. Don't want any excuses for the win.

Do I refer to idiots often? It doesn't feel like it's that often. Certainly not "always."

I get annoyed when people post ridiculous evaluations and disparaging remarks that are neither well thought-out nor accurate nor realistic. And they do it just to be contrarian and negative. It's not trolling, really, it's just... I'm struggling for the word, honestly. I suppose I could say that they are trying to add value to themselves in an effort to counter their own deficiencies, by creating false ones for someone else, but that doesn't seem like very economical writing.

Idiots is just quicker.

What Embiid do to get ejected?

If it isn't that, it will be something else. They're still making up ref excuses for EJ scoring 39 points on them last season.

Gave a Kstate player a backhand to the face.

Retaliation shot to the head of an opponent.

Rusty will be along shortly to boo this post.

5 fingers to KSU' Williams face.

Embiid aint gon' have time for that.

This team is a lot better when they're making 3's. (duh)

Wiggins was getting hot there in 2nd half. Still think him and Selden need to attack the rim a little more rather than play around the perimeter. Wish Frankamp and Greene could get into the game a little more.

This team isn't yet defensively sound where Self needs them to be (even though today's game was a better effort on that note), so they're going to have to outscore other teams for the time being. In order to do that though they really need to get their 3 point shootin' studs into the game...they can be a liability on defense but their long shot is sorely needed.

Damn, tie ball game in Morgantown.

Gonna be some tough sleddin' in the B12 this year. Still four minutes for Okie Light to pull away.

WVU isn't useless like last season. They're decent.

Yeah, I've yet to watch them play this year.

Is TCU still a dumpster fire?

Yes. I go out of my way not to watch TCU. They butcher the game of basketball.

I dislike Huggins more than any coach other than Calipari.

Big road win for OSU. It's going to be a tough race.

Man I love Marcus Smart's game. But at the end of the day, if we can truly realize our potential, I'm not sure who can beat us.

But none of that matters. We have to go into ISU Monday and get a win. If we can take one in Ames, this team will SKYROCKET in the rankings.

Duke was #16 and lost again. Of course they'll stay in the rankings because they're Duke even though they have no great wins, but still: there's a chance they could fall out. UNC was thrashed by Syracuse and is now 0-3 in ACC play.


The last time they met when neither team was ranked in the AP or Coaches? 1955. Yeah. The year before Wilt came to KU!

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Do you guys even consider k-state a rival?

ISU board already fired up about the refs being "on the take" again for this game. They're awesome to read. Here's a funny photo on their board:

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Check out that dude in the background with the red speedo. Holy moly. Would anyone not on drugs ever wear that in public?

Our best player is a good time decision.

REVENGE IS MINE...
says
MELVIN
R
WEATHERWAX.

Ass kicker.
Name taker.

SDB.

I see ISU is already starting the "We got screwed by the refs" crap before the game has even started. Good to lay those excuses down now that way they can say "We told you so".

I get why KSU and ISU alums root for their school, and sorta see why Mizzouchebags root for theirs despite a history of fail. But is there any good reason the unattached KC resident doesn't root for Kansas given we are the only legit threat to win a title in this region?

Probably because Perry Ellis and Wayne Selden are on the team.

In all fairness, neither has accomplished squat in March. Hopefully that changes this yr

Northwestern leads Illinois 22-15 @half.

B1G basketball -- WHERE DEFENSE LIVES.

Didn't a B1G team beat KU in the tournament?

I have a good feeling about the game tomorrow night for some reason.

Could be that for once we are not favored. Sure seems like there is less pressure on this one anyway.

I think ISU's sporadic chaotic offensive philosophy of throwing up 3s, good or bad looks, plays into our transition game offensively. If they hit them then it's another story but we can hang offensively. After Saturday, KU moved up to seventh nationally in offensive efficiency, per KenPom. Best KU offense since 2009-10 (2nd).

Not just 'a better effort' but awesome. Now if they can just maintain that level of defensive play...

http://youtu.be/iQ5CjszX8R8

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Cool, but since when are we rivals?

Haha that caught my attention as well. But it's going to be that way as long as Fred stays in Ames. We are pretty good this year, but next years team is more talented. And everyone but one returns the next year after that.

Iowa State will be in the Big12 championship mix every year going forward until Fred leaves for the NBA if that ever happens.

I know Rick Adelman is pretty old, but as a Timberwolves fan I sincerely hope that Fred stays the **** away from Minnesota.

It's bad enough that Flip came back :#

Is this one of you guys?

franfraschilla Fran Fraschilla
No hypotheticals tonight, OK? :) RT @stickybandit22: IF Self were to ever leave, do you think Hoiberg would ever leave ISU for Kansas?

There's no way Hoiberg leaves ISU for KU. No way.

Luckily, there's a while before we have to worry about that.

I know, IF he leaves it's for the NBA. But I think he's here at minimum until his kids graduate... Hopefully longer. But Self probably isn't leaving soon either anyways.:. Right?

Obviously you like to troll. You're not a peer basketball program and haven't been the past 100 years and won't be the next 100 years. You've been to 3 sweet 16s....ever. You've won the conference 6 times....ever. (Our recent coach has won it 9 straight times). You are a dreadful 59-174 against us all time. Even your current coach is 1-6 against us.


I know you want to pretend you're a peer program. But I want to pretend I'm going to screw Kate Upton tonite. Pretending won't make it so.

Iowa State fans have zero objectivity. They won't be happy unless 100% of the foul calls go there way, and then they'll still find a couple more to bitch about.

Hopefully we make Fred's son cry again tonight.

I'll never forget the time we lost to Baylor in 2001 and had to play in Ames the next game. A sign in their student section read "Baylor WTF?" as they beat us. A few weeks later ISU was the top seed in the Big 12 tourney and played Baylor first round.

I don't have to tell you what happened.

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KU was down 87-82 with 35 seconds left in this game. Elijah Johnson then proceeded to hit 2 threes and 2 free throws within that time to send it to OT. He then made a layup, a 2 point jump shot, 2 more threes, and a final dunk in overtime to seal it. Yeah, sounds like it was all the refs.

That game was also even bigger for KU in retrospect. Without it, the conference winning streak would have ended last season.

Kevin Young's foul steal. Most veteran move I've ever seen at KU.

Lets hope the death threats and racial slurs are held to a minimum.

Lol. You act like Fred has been our coach since the dawn of time.

You act like two overtime losses are the same as wins.

You know, I'm going from memory here so I could be wrong, but I seem to remember losing in Ames 2 years ago and KU fans were grumbling about some pretty bad officiating. I remember it was a big deal because Self was all over the officials during the game but after in a hallway under the arena an official was knocked over or knocked out or something and who other than Bill Self came to his aid.

So the point is, ISU fans acting like they get the short end of the stick EVERY time is just silly (as we already know).

He's got a better roster every year. I can't help it you guys are stupid enough to think be topped out in three years.

We're #8, and you're 15 btw

@brentblum: Iowa State has averaged 81 points against KU over last 2 years. Rest of CBB has put up just 61.

So you should win anyway...Higher rank, at home....Yeah....should be a win.

But if ISU doesnt win.....dont come in here crying your bitch ass off bitching about the officials like you did last year...k???

Interesting. We moved up 3 spots after beating OU and KSU. You slipped after beating Baylor and coming up short versus unranked OU.

Tonight will be a bloodbath, but if Kane is out, I like Kansas chances.

Great shooters.

Kane will play. Wiggins will guard. Kane won't score a point while Wiggins guards.

Did you miss the part where I mentioned his 1-6 record vs Kansas?

+ Gimmick offense

Since 2011, ISU leads the nation in one statistical category that we simply will never compete with:

I complained about two losses last year. Kansas and Ohio State. Oh and the national media also agreed.