ChiefsPlanet - NFL Draft Geno Smith fans roll call

I agree. And smokescreen is a better word than what I used. This leads into Eagle fans saying that's the worst thing about Andy. That he feeds you lines and then a week later makes a move that contradicts what he said. In the end I don't care about the press conferences. They can say as little or as much as they want. All I care about are results.

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 9327474)

I'd buy the luck opinion if they weren't so consistent.

I think you misunderstood what Milkman was saying. He was just using luck as a joke to make the point that the Packers drafted 5 straight defensive players last year, and that it shows an eye on need.

htismaqe

01-17-2013 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9327254)

I don't like that Clark is coming out saying what he's saying about QB's at this point.

But I hope you are right.

Again...

Clark also came out and said in so many words "I'm just a fan, what do I know? I pay Dorsey and Reid to make these decisions."

You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

htismaqe

01-17-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9326982)

That's my philosophy. I want them to select Smith (or Wilson). But I don't believe they will. It would be the antithesis of everything they've done for basically the entire existence of the franchise.

I figure I might as well expect the worst. That way I can manage my reaction when they do it. Sucks to have to think that way, but you kind of have to with the Chiefs, and decade after decade of them drafting every position except the most important one. At least this way if I'm surprised it'll be pleasantly. Unless there's another Tyson Jackson on the board.

It'll probably be Joeckel.

Kind of where I'm at.

HotCarl

01-17-2013 07:25 AM

I think they will take Smith, that is how Reid started in Philly and it's clearly our biggest position of need.

I don't think Geno Smith is worth a #1 pick in general, but I am in favor of staying there and taking him anyway. He is probably the best QB in this draft and if we move down, we'll get stuck with the third or fourth choice. Jacksonville is likely to take a QB or trade with somebody who will since their GM ruled out Tebow. We might be overpaying in terms of a few draft slots, but at least we will have our guy.

Rambozo

01-17-2013 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9327045)

The Packers are the luckiest draft team ever.

Last year's draft just lined perfectly for them.

They needed a lot of players to fix their defense, and the BPA in every round just happened to be defensive players.

Dorsey and Reid are selling a bill of goods, and everyone is just buying it.

I definately agree that luck plays a part. Hopefully, KC is due for some luck. It has been a while. It could be a smoke screen for sure but, I personally don't think it was. He was pretty specific and sincere in the interview imo.

Rambozo

01-17-2013 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 9327428)

Are you sure he said those actual words, and not just BPA no matter what? There is a big difference between BPA and BPA no matter the positions. I also disagree that ***** would be more likely to pick Geno.

Also, as far as the timetable goes, that time doesn't start until you get an actual QB. You don't build the team and then drop the QB in. At least, that's a difficult way to do it. They aren't going to just wait around on that position. Dorsey also was very honest about a good team needing a very good QB.

Do you think they are just feeding us lines, or just not explaining that BPA allows, even demands, need as a factor?

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9327225)

I think we can agree that BPA is a little more complicated that the best player at any position available.

I agree with most of this. Another thing I would point out is that BPA means something different at different stages in the draft. There is a point at which the value of positions changes.

BossChief

01-17-2013 09:58 AM

Geno Smith is good at playing football.

Rambozo

01-17-2013 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9327912)

Geno Smith is good at playing football.

Yeah but, isn't every player who is drafted? :)

DJ's left nut

01-17-2013 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9327961)

Yeah but, isn't every player who is drafted? :)

Son, take a seat on my knee here and let me tell you a story about a man named Trezelle Jenkins...

Rambozo

01-17-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9327965)

Son, take a seat on my knee here and let me tell you a story about a man named Trezelle Jenkins...

ROFL That was a long time ago. I almost forgot about that guy. LOL

You kind of make my point. The guy was good in college and that's why he was drafted in the first round.

DJ's left nut

01-17-2013 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9327980)

ROFL That was a long time ago. I almost forgot about that guy. LOL

You kind of make my point. The guy was good in college and that's why he was drafted in the first round.

See, that's where you're wrong.

Trezelle Jenkins wasn't even good in college. He was pretty terrible, in fact.

He looked the part of a LT and that's it. He wasn't actually worth a damn at playing football even at Michigan.

Rambozo

01-17-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9327983)

I hear you but he did play in 28 games at Michigan. There was a lot of tape. He wasn't bad at Michigan imo.

DJ's left nut

01-17-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9327989)

I hear you but he did play in 28 games at Michigan. There was a lot of tape. He wasn't bad at Michigan imo.

He was just bigger than everyone.

His technique was terrible, his focus was intermittent at best. He was a guy that just stood around being gigantic.

I guess that makes him moderately effective at the collegiate level, but IIRC, draft guides had him as something along the lines of a 5th round pick (some higher, some even as a 7th rounder). His Michigan pedigree alone would've had him in the 5th round.

If that kid would've played at Middle Tennessee State, he'd have never gone anywhere. He wasn't a good football player, just a gigantic human being.

Rambozo

01-17-2013 10:50 AM

Ok, fair enough, 99.9% of the players that are drafted are "good" in college.

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-17-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9327017)

the perversity of drafting joeckel is mind destroying...

This. It would be a truly mind-****ing, T-Jack moment all over again.

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