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NinerDoug 12-04-2013 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10247785)
Damn.

That's like a really good game for Alex.

And Matt Ryan averages that?

Damn.
Over the last three games, Alex has averaged about 272 I believe. Of course, you can't just wipe out earlier games in the season from the analysis.

Still, if the last three games evidence a shift in coaching / offensive philosophy, Alex just may have moved into the top 10. If it goes back to the conservative mode, well............

BossChief 12-04-2013 12:44 PM
Why then is Atlanta losing games, you might ask.

How about the defense allowing 28+ points per game (4th WORST) and 385 yards (7th worst) in the league?

Maybe because they have THE LEAGUES WORST THIRD DOWN DEFENSE?

Opponents convert 47% of their third downs on Atlanta.

TheUte 12-04-2013 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 10247810)
Clearly he MUST have an all pro line and several all pro WR to be any good. Poor Matt Ryan.
What's his team's record again?

BossChief 12-04-2013 12:51 PM
Atlantas defense is also 8th in penalties and is second to last in red zone defense.

To note: I love it how when Alex Smith was playing well below average football, but was winning games, the common response to his level of play was always 8-0 woohoo...but Matt Ryan gets dragged through the mud for win loss record even though he is on pace for a career year and the defense is one of the worst in all of football in nearly every relevant category.

BossChief 12-04-2013 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10247819)
What's his team's record again?
59-31 since he became the teams starter.

23 of those wins coming on game winning drives.

TheUte 12-04-2013 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10247831)
Atlantas defense is also 8th in penalties and is second to last in red zone defense.

To note: I love it how when Alex Smith was playing well below average football, but was winning games, the common response to his level of play was always 8-0 woohoo...but Matt Ryan gets dragged through the mud for win loss record even though he is on pace for a career year and the defense is one of the worst in all of football in nearly every relevant category.
That is kinda the point, QB's get far too much credit for wins and for too much blame for loses.

tonyetony 12-04-2013 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10247753)
Roddy White has been hurt all year, but has tried to play through them.

Harry Douglas and 37 year old Gonzalez are all that's left in Atlanta.

Even with that, this year he has:

Averages 290 yards per game
Has a 90qb rating
Completing 66% of his throws
Has just under 3500 yards passing and 19tds with 4 games remaining.

HE IS ON PACE FOR 4,600 YARDS AND 26 TOUCHDOWNS.

Yeah, the guy is obviously trash.

CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT PREMIER TALENT AROUND HIM...

:facepalm:
Let's not forget that he's also on pace to throw 16 picks, that Atlanta is tied for 30th in rushing offense and they might win 5 games this year. Atlanta had 4 games this year where they couldn't put up more than 13 points. The Chiefs lowest point total has been 17.

BossChief 12-04-2013 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tonyetony (Post 10247853)
Let's not forget that he's also on pace to throw 16 picks, that Atlanta is tied for 30th in rushing offense and they might win 5 games this year. Atlanta had 4 games this year where they couldn't put up more than 13 points. The Chiefs lowest point total has been 17.
It's not like 16 picks is a crazy number, though.

Especially given that his passing game is LITERALLY the only thing that team has.

Their running game and defense are dumpster fires.

When your defense is constantly giving up 30+ points, OF COURSE you are going to throw some picks. You are throwing the ball a lot trying to keep up.

That's hard to do when the defense doesn't respect your running game or receivers.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-04-2013 01:10 PM
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BossChief 12-04-2013 01:11 PM
How is catch rate figured?

Overall completion percentage?

Pablo 12-04-2013 01:13 PM
Poor Geno has even worse WR's than Alex.

Just not fair for the guy.

mschiefs1984 12-04-2013 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10247896)
Poor Geno has even worse WR's than Alex.

Just not fair for the guy.
Geno has done a great job hitting weapons. Those weapons just play for the other team o:-)

tonyetony 12-04-2013 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10247866)
It's not like 16 picks is a crazy number, though.

Especially given that his passing game is LITERALLY the only thing that team has.

Their running game and defense are dumpster fires.

When your defense is constantly giving up 30+ points, OF COURSE you are going to throw some picks. You are throwing the ball a lot trying to keep up.

That's hard to do when the defense doesn't respect your running game or receivers.
The Chiefs Offense is top 10 in points scored per game. Atlanta not even top 20.

Smith is on pace to throw for 20 td's with 8 picks, I'll take that combined with our top 10 in rushing points per game.

Sandy Vagina 12-04-2013 01:30 PM
Amazing how many excuses are fair game for every OTHER team's QB but your very own. :harumph:

mschiefs1984 12-04-2013 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 10247945)
Amazing how many excuses are fair game for every OTHER team's QB but your very own. :harumph:
The same excuses they get mad about for people using with Alex :facepalm:


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