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Don Corlemahomes 09-16-2014 11:35 AM

Pretty solid article.

ShowtimeSBMVP 09-16-2014 01:31 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Wow RT <a href="https://twitter.com/APkrawczynski">@APkrawczynski</a>: An eye-opening development: Nike stores in Twin Cities have pulled all Adrian Peterson merch from shelves. Nike.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/511960318436593664">September 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Easy 6 09-16-2014 01:32 PM

He will be a Cowboy before the end of the season.

notorious 09-16-2014 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 10920480)
He will be a Cowboy before the end of the season.

Reverse Hershall Walker trade.

Pitt Gorilla 09-16-2014 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 10919577)
I've put off paying attention to this but it's obviously too big to ignore. With that said, uhm...yeah that's child abuse. Clearly child abuse. I am stating the obvious, right? Or is this something that's being debated?

OU Fans are lining up to defend him. It's pretty sickening.

Rausch 09-16-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunning Linguist (Post 10920216)
Now, this is the part where I point out that study after study after study has proven that corporal punishment—even a light spanking—does not work. At all. Corporal punishment makes kids sullen, violent, and angry. I know this because I have dabbled in corporal punishment with my own children, particularly my oldest kid.

That's funny because I can say the exact opposite. As a younger child the fear of a spanking was the only thing that worked.

I'm not violent and the only reason I'm sullen and angry is Chiefs...

Don Corlemahomes 09-16-2014 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10920598)
That's funny because I can say the exact opposite. As a younger child the fear of a spanking was the only thing that worked.

I'm not violent and the only reason I'm sullen and angry is Chiefs...

That part wasn't at all compelling. He talked about study after study, but finished the paragraph with anecdotal evidence.

And who's to say his anecdote is better than yours?

But the anger and contempt one must feel for their children during an act of corporal punishment is disturbing, which I very much agree with.

Marcellus 09-16-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 10920480)
He will be a Cowboy before the end of the season.



Jerry Jones - " Hey AP! You see those guys over there in red? They are the Redskins. Vile bastards with no morals using a derogatory Indian term as their own name. I want you to get out there and whip their asses all over the field!"

Ming the Merciless 09-16-2014 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunning Linguist (Post 10920897)
That part wasn't at all compelling. He talked about study after study, but finished the paragraph with anecdotal evidence.

And who's to say his anecdote is better than yours?

The funny thing is that the article is DEAD WRONG. The thing about corporal punishment, the entire reason so many people do it is precicely because IT WORKS (in the short term anyway).

No one would do it if it didn't work, so his entire premise that it 'doesn't work' is utter rubbish.

The studies I have read suggest that it 'works' but that the side effects can be bad/worse than the original behavior...or that parents can run the risk of being abusive etc....

No one would do corporal punishment if it didn't cease the unwanted behavior in the short term. His analysis of this topic is deeply flawed.

OldSchool 09-16-2014 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10920477)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Wow RT <a href="https://twitter.com/APkrawczynski">@APkrawczynski</a>: An eye-opening development: Nike stores in Twin Cities have pulled all Adrian Peterson merch from shelves. Nike.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/511960318436593664">September 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Nice, keep it up!

ShowtimeSBMVP 09-16-2014 04:59 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Castol statement: &quot;In light of recent event, Castrol has decided to end our relationship with Adrian Peterson.&quot;</p>&mdash; Sports Biz (@CNBCSportsBiz) <a href="https://twitter.com/CNBCSportsBiz/status/512010871858802688">September 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Jimmya 09-16-2014 05:31 PM

Agree with Pawnmower 100%

Don Corlemahomes 09-16-2014 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 10920947)
The funny thing is that the article is DEAD WRONG. The thing about corporal punishment, the entire reason so many people do it is precicely because IT WORKS (in the short term anyway).

No one would do it if it didn't work, so his entire premise that it 'doesn't work' is utter rubbish.

The studies I have read suggest that it 'works' but that the side effects can be bad/worse than the original behavior...or that parents can run the risk of being abusive etc....

No one would do corporal punishment if it didn't cease the unwanted behavior in the short term. His analysis of this topic is deeply flawed.

Of course it works in the short-term. It's no wonder kids will comply because they don't want someone (whom they deeply love, mind you) significantly larger than them to beat the shit out of them again.

Anyways, short-term solution is the only positive you can point to, and this 88 study meta-analysis can elaborate. You might want to pass it on to your former child development professor and classmates.

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large-scale meta-analysis of 88 studies, psychologist Elizabeth Thompson Gershoff, PhD, of the National Center for Children in Poverty at Columbia University, looked at both positive and negative behaviors in children that were associated with corporal punishment.

While conducting the meta-analysis, which included 62 years of collected data, Gershoff looked for associations between parental use of corporal punishment and 11 child behaviors and experiences, including several in childhood (immediate compliance, moral internalization, quality of relationship with parent, and physical abuse from that parent), three in both childhood and adulthood (mental health, aggression, and criminal or antisocial behavior) and one in adulthood alone (abuse of own children or spouse).

Gershoff found "strong associations" between corporal punishment and all eleven child behaviors and experiences. Ten of the associations were negative such as with increased child aggression and antisocial behavior. The single desirable association was between corporal punishment and increased immediate compliance on the part of the child.

The meta-analyses have confirmed a strong association between
parental corporal punishment and parental physical abuse of these
same children, confirming fears of many researchers that corporal
punishment and physical abuse are closely linked.
Currently in the
United States, approximately 13 out of every 1,000 children under
the age of 18 have experienced some form of abuse or neglect,
21% of whom have suffered physical abuse (U.S. Department of
Health and Human Services, 2001).

While the nature of the analyses prohibits causally linking corporal punishment with the child behaviors, Gershoff also summarizes a large body of literature on parenting that suggests why corporal punishment may actually cause negative outcomes for children. For one, corporal punishment on its own does not teach children right from wrong. Secondly, although it makes children afraid to disobey when parents are present, when parents are not present to administer the punishment those same children will misbehave.

In commentary published along with the Gershoff study, George W. Holden, PhD, of the University of Texas at Austin, writes that Gershoff's findings "reflect the growing body of evidence indicating that corporal punishment does no good and may even cause harm." Holden submits that the psychological community should not be advocating spanking as a discipline tool for parents.
Article URL:
http://www.apa.org/news/press/releas.../spanking.aspx

Actual Study PDF:
http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/rel...ul-1284539.pdf

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-16-2014 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 10920947)
The funny thing is that the article is DEAD WRONG. The thing about corporal punishment, the entire reason so many people do it is precicely because IT WORKS (in the short term anyway).

No one would do it if it didn't work, so his entire premise that it 'doesn't work' is utter rubbish.

The studies I have read suggest that it 'works' but that the side effects can be bad/worse than the original behavior...or that parents can run the risk of being abusive etc....

No one would do corporal punishment if it didn't cease the unwanted behavior in the short term. His analysis of this topic is deeply flawed.

People wouldnt' do it if it didn't work.

Signed,

Massacres of Jews for "poisoning the wells" during the Black Death
Flagellation for impure religion during the Black Death
Blood-letting
Hydrogen Peroxide
Homeopathic Medicine
Animal Sacrifice
Santeria
The Ouija Board
The Sham-Wow

And thousands more!!

OldSchool 09-16-2014 05:59 PM

More and more sponsors and pulling away from AP and the Viqueens, good.


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