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tk13 10-04-2012 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8978238)
If you're 0-2 with Bledsoe and 11-3 with Brady, and then Brady wins a playoff game you'd have BALLS to put Bledsoe back in. This is a no brainer...

Brady was knocked out early in the AFC Championship... Bledsoe came in and did well enough to win on the road in Pittsburgh. Spin it any way you want, there was a legitimate debate at the time about who should start the Super Bowl. It's easy to pass judgment in hindsight knowing what Brady went on to do. But if you start a 6th round QB over a 1st round pick who has the biggest contract in football... you better be right.

htismaqe 10-05-2012 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8978238)
If you're 0-2 with Bledsoe and 11-3 with Brady, and then Brady wins a playoff game you'd have BALLS to put Bledsoe back in. This is a no brainer...

Brady didn't win the AFC Championship, Bledsoe did. Brady got injured.

htismaqe 10-05-2012 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8977470)
If Belichick had stayed in Cleveland, would those blue collar heroes, surely on the rise by that point as an AFC power, have beaten the:

'96 Patriots?
'97 Broncos?
'98 Broncos?
'99 Titans?
'00 Ravens?

Shit, I bet they wouldn't even have gotten out of their own division against Brunell's Jags.

Well, he wouldn't have beaten the 2000 Ravens.

Because if Belichick has stayed in Cleveland, that means the Browns stayed in Cleveland.

And therefore, the Ravens don't exist.

:D

suds79 10-05-2012 07:27 AM

Watched the show last night.

It just dawned on me, and you see this in the video in the OP, When Demetrof & Pioli meet in Scott's mansion. I want the next set of Chiefs to be filled with types of what that famous crew used to be.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1496397/Schwartz2.PNG

These guys. Young, hungry, full of talent & work harder than the rest.

You tellin me that those guys (even though I'd take Demetrof in a second) are working as hard now as they used to in the show?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-M...itled-1111.jpg

It also sickened me as a reminder that Scott traded Tony to his buddy's team. I mean honestly. Can you work a deal at all that doesn't involve one of your old cronies?

htismaqe 10-05-2012 07:36 AM

LMAO LMAO LMAO

Look at Lombardi's mustache!!!

notorious 10-05-2012 07:50 AM

Wow, they only paid 401 million for that stadium?


It's amazing how much prices have skyrocketed!

Amnorix 10-05-2012 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8975923)
The rest of them, minus Dimitroff, who follows his own path, are a bunch of ****ing frauds.



Plenty of success in the college ranks off that tree. Agreed that pro success hasn't been there outside of Dimitroff.

Amnorix 10-05-2012 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8978475)
Brady didn't win the AFC Championship, Bledsoe did. Brady got injured.


Not by himself. Patriots were winning 7-3 when Brady got hurt, and had completed a long(ish) pass to Troy Brown. It was in the 2nd quarter.

And I agree that Bledsoe definitely helped win the game, but everyone forgets that he made one of the most asinine throws I've ever seen in that game too -- throwing it blindly over his head backwards when he got turned around and was about to be sacked. In a massive defensive struggle he begged for a pick six that could've swung the game.

Amnorix 10-05-2012 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8978238)
If you're 0-2 with Bledsoe and 11-3 with Brady, and then Brady wins a playoff game you'd have BALLS to put Bledsoe back in. This is a no brainer...


You have no idea how split the fan base up here was over that SB decision. To me it was a no brainer for Brady, but many here thought otherwise. And by many, I mean MANY!

notorious 10-05-2012 08:11 AM

More like this:

http://imageshack.us/a/img42/1444/bradyk.png

htismaqe 10-05-2012 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8978610)
Not by himself. Patriots were winning 7-3 when Brady got hurt, and had completed a long(ish) pass to Troy Brown. It was in the 2nd quarter.

And I agree that Bledsoe definitely helped win the game, but everyone forgets that he made one of the most asinine throws I've ever seen in that game too -- throwing it blindly over his head backwards when he got turned around and was about to be sacked. In a massive defensive struggle he begged for a pick six that could've swung the game.

Still, it's revisionist history to suggest that Belichick had an "easy" decision or anything of the sort.

The unwritten rule is that a starter doesn't lose his job to injury. BB deserves credit for thumbing his nose at tradition...

Amnorix 10-05-2012 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8978632)
Still, it's revisionist history to suggest that Belichick had an "easy" decision or anything of the sort.

The unwritten rule is that a starter doesn't lose his job to injury. BB deserves credit for thumbing his nose at tradition...

Oh I agree with that, and BB deserves massive credit.

Keep in mind two things -- first that all coaches, but NFL coaches especially, tend to be very conservative and tend to do the things that, all else being equal, will get them the LEAST criticism if it fails. BB definitely doesn't fall into that category. Picking Brady to start the SB is one example. A less successful one is 4th and 2 against Indy -- A DECISION I SUPPORTED THEN AND SUPPORT NOW. Just because a decision doesn't succeed doesn't mean the wrong choice was made.

Second, BB got crucified in Cleveland for benching, whoever it was -- Kosar I guess. Now he's going against the grain and picking the new guy to start the Super Bowl over the former number 1 pick guy. That takes titanium testicles...

suds79 10-05-2012 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8978630)

Ha. :clap:

Prior to this season I used to say this league is 80% QB, everything else is filler. And truly believed that.

Then we have the Sean Payton example.

Think I have to amend that to 80% QB & HC, Then everybody else.

notorious 10-05-2012 08:19 AM

Eh, my photoshop skills suck, but I couldn't help it. :)

Amnorix 10-05-2012 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8975920)
Belichick says "We got better every year."

Or maybe you just had a dogshit team that played a weak schedule?

The 1994 Browns beat TWO winning teams all year on the way to 11-5.

The rest of that regime was a losing effort.

These guys were, are and always will be FRAUDS without Tom Brady.


Are the Saints teaching you noting this year without their Head Coach? Or is Tom Brady so awesome even Drew Brees can't be compared to him?


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