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KCTitus 01-28-2005 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69
Unless you're a member of Chiefs management, I wasn't talking about your attitude, but now that you mention it, "apathetic" is a word I would use to describe Lamar Hunt's attitude as well.

Hey, we found something to agree upon...

NaptownChief 01-28-2005 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hemied
His free agent decisions, at the end of the Marty era, to get them over the hump were the worst. IMO Dan Williams was the worst thing that ever happened to the Chiefs. However, I remember when I heard that he had signed PH that I was ecstactic. I think his decision to bring in DV was perfect due to the fact that the Chiefs were at the laughing stock of the NFL stage. DV bringing in profile players has restored respect to the franchise, even though they have not yet accomplished what a lot of fans think is the only sign of success, a Super Bowl Victory.


The DV decision I feel is pretty neutral. Good coach but was old and cost us a 2nd and 3rd round pick to get him. Pretty pricey considering his age. 4 years later I would still say I am pretty neutral on it. Easily argued that it was a bad decision considering 3 of the 4 years were non-playoff seasons and hasn't even won a single playoff game. But that aside I would say that Peterson's meddling with personel decisions is at the heart of DV's failure. Didn't go out and upgrade the defensive talent this past offseason, forced DV to draft LJ in the 1st round when they needed defensive help etc.etc....

As for Priest, that certianly turned out to be a huge HR....Watching the "Beyond The Glory" episode on Holmes that signing was actually Vermeil's choice or at least that is how it appeared based on what Priest said. Regardless, the same of that is despite having one of the best 2 or 3 RB's in the leauge with that signing they haven't been able to even take advantage of it and win a single playoff game.

shaneo69 01-28-2005 01:52 PM

[QUOTE=KCTitus]Simply wonderful. Im not sure how else I can say what Ive said to you a couple of other times, but let me restate for your benefit...Im apathetic. [QUOTE]

Yeah, you did mention that a couple times. You know, I'm pretty apathetic about the Portland Trail Blazers. I'm thinking about finding a Trail Blazer BB and then spending up to 8 hours a day reading it and then poking fun at their true and passionate fans who show frustration with a team that hasn't won the Championship since the mid- 1970's. Yeah, that sounds like a good idea.

tk13 01-28-2005 01:52 PM

This all depends, as we know I'm of the belief that Carl's failure is not due to apathy like many of the picketers here seem to believe, but simply just failure to execute and evaluate. I don't believe for a second that Carl doesn't care, I think that's a bit foolish, even if he was all about greed he's smart enough to realize successful playoff teams breed more money than what we have now... the guy isn't apathetic, he's done everything in his power during his term here to bring us a winner. He's had defensive juggernauts, offensive juggernauts, he drafted to build a D with guys like DT and Dale Carter, he brought in HOF veterans in Montana and Allen, he tried to put the 98 team over the top by building an defensive all-star team in free agency... he brought in Dick Vermeil and built a team through veterans nobody else wanted, I mean there isn't a thing Carl hasn't tried, and it's never come together. I think if you think picketing out in front of Arrowhead is going to make Carl draft better or not make FA acquistions like Vonnie Holliday and Carlton Gray, more power to you I guess....

KCTitus 01-28-2005 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief
I saw that part but it was kinda over shadowed by your non-stop babble and "amazement" that fans would complain about a poorly performing front office.

Fans of bad teams complaining...Stunning....Next someone is going to tell me wives nag or people having different political views....

Nap, tsk..tsk...you again, misread, my amazement. Im not suprised of people voicing their displeasure, Im amazed at those peoples who continue to fund this organization all the while posting proudly that they know Carl's only motivation is to 'fill the seats'...*sigh*

Im not sure why you choose today to be obtuse, but damn. That's two in a row. I understand, I dont toe your line and you want to argue with me about it, but you're not reading what Im typing.

KCTitus 01-28-2005 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69
Yeah, you did mention that a couple times. You know, I'm pretty apathetic about the Portland Trail Blazers. I'm thinking about finding a Trail Blazer BB and then spending up to 8 hours a day reading it and then poking fun at their true and passionate fans who show frustration with a team that hasn't won the Championship since the mid- 1970's. Yeah, that sounds like a good idea.

Have fun...I'll miss your insights here.

NaptownChief 01-28-2005 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus
Hey, we found something to agree upon...


Something we can all agree on...Unfortunately Hunt's apathetic approach and attitude has been contagious cause I can honestly say cared less about football and the Chiefs going into this past season than any point in my life...it obviously only got worse after the 0-3 start.

NaptownChief 01-28-2005 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus
Nap, tsk..tsk...you again, misread, my amazement. Im not suprised of people voicing their displeasure, Im amazed at those peoples who continue to fund this organization all the while posting proudly that they know Carl's only motivation is to 'fill the seats'...*sigh*

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Fans complaining yet still pouring in the financial support is about as shocking as Repubs and Demorats disagreeing on taxes and war.

On a more enjoyable topic...you still playing golf? Did you ever buy you a new set of sticks?

KCTitus 01-28-2005 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief
Fans complaining yet still pouring in the financial support is about as shocking as Repubs and Demorats disagreeing on taxes and war.

On a more enjoyable topic...you still playing golf? Did you ever buy you a new set of sticks?

so be it...

Still playing, but not as much as I would like...nixed the sticks cause #3 came along and I need all the cash I could get my hands on. If I started playing 2-3x per month or more, I would definately get back into the market for a whole new set, but as it is now, Im only getting out maybe once every couple of months.

NaptownChief 01-28-2005 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus
so be it...

Still playing, but not as much as I would like...nixed the sticks cause #3 came along and I need all the cash I could get my hands on. If I started playing 2-3x per month or more, I would definately get back into the market for a whole new set, but as it is now, Im only getting out maybe once every couple of months.


3 utes certainly leaves little time or coin for golf.

Wile_E_Coyote 01-28-2005 02:57 PM

If yall are dead set on picketing, why don't you picket the Star.

Demand they drop Whitlock & bring back Ivan Carter. Then we would know what was going on at 1 Arrowhead Drive, instead of hearing what one armcouch GM wants going on at 1 Arrowhead Drive

HemiEd 01-28-2005 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote
If yall are dead set on picketing, why don't you picket the Star.

Demand they drop Whitlock & bring back Ivan Carter. Then we would know what was going on at 1 Arrowhead Drive, instead of hearing what one armcouch GM wants going on at 1 Arrowhead Drive

Carter grated me almost as bad as sh#tlock. He constantly mixed NBA dunking jive crapt and Minnesota in with the Chiefs reporting. Joe Pos is the best writer at the Star IMO.

Wile_E_Coyote 01-28-2005 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hemied
Carter grated me almost as bad as sh#tlock. He constantly mixed NBA dunking jive crapt and Minnesota in with the Chiefs reporting. Joe Pos is the best writer at the Star IMO.

I will miss Carter's Ask Ivan forum. Send him an e-mail and more often than not I got a reply. I haven't read Joe Poe in a while...don't miss it

ENDelt260 01-28-2005 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote
I will miss Carter's Ask Ivan forum.

I'll always love that simply for the one day he answered Rain Man's question: "Which player from the Chiefs roster do you want on your side in a fight?"

BigRedChief 01-28-2005 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
I'll always love that simply for the one day he answered Rain Man's question: "Which player from the Chiefs roster do you want on your side in a fight?"

That would be the one with the bum knee. MAZ!


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