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tk13 08-15-2005 12:56 PM

I do agree that's maybe the worst rumor of the entire offseason. I think every GM uses up most of their time in case somebody blows them away with an offer. It doesn't mean Carl didn't want DJ necessarily, maybe he wanted to see if anybody knocked his socks off, if not, no biggie, he has nothing to lose by letting the clock run out. Of course I don't know if that's what happened, but it's what Carl should've done if he was smart, even though he'd apparently get criticized for it....

penguinz 08-15-2005 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
i wasn't bitching at all

i was just confirming (imo) a comment made by someone else


your the one that is bitching .... asshole

All you do here is bitch.

htismaqe 08-15-2005 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief
Why start the name calling? Its just an opinion. Everyone has one. Let them voice it without the name calling. That too much to ask?

I don't think patteu started with the name calling.

BigRedChief 08-15-2005 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
I don't think patteu started with the name calling.

No, but he's usually the "reasonable" one here. Not assesing blame. As far as my opinion goes I'll repeat it here again..........unless you were in the room you don't know chit. Because noone that was in the room has talked about it...yet.

This reminds me of all those Marty and Hill rumors in the mid 90's.

patteeu 08-15-2005 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
unjustified leap of logic?? ......... so in your vast wisdom, the chiefs sat on their entire clock time because they were having drinks or something.

they were just so happy that Johnson fell to them they they had a mini party and almost forget to make the selection?




a dumb ass like yourself judging my opinion to be bad is a definite compliment.

so thanks :thumb:

It is just as likely that Carl was entertaining offers from other teams as it is that he was making offers in a desperate attempt to avoid drafting DJ. But you said you remembered "it" in the same way that B_Ambuehl did which is that Carl was making the offers. (Whether "it" was an unjustified rumor or actual knowledge worth posting.)

It is a leap of logic to jump to the conclusion that taking the full 15 means the latter rather than the former. And regardless of which direction the offers were flowing, it is not reasonable to assume that Carl was undervaluing DJ at all since no one has stepped up to the plate with the offer they think Carl was making for us to make a comparision. OTOH, I've offered an example of a trade that would have made sense for the Chiefs which justifies Carl's decision to entertain offers before pulling the trigger. He lost nothing by waiting, but the upside for waiting was unlimited even if it was unlikely.

patteeu 08-15-2005 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
Why start the name calling? Its just an opinion. Everyone has one. Let them voice it without the name calling. That too much to ask?

I didn't start the name calling. I respond in kind.

ROYC75 08-15-2005 01:14 PM

Hot damn, everybody was kung foo fighting .......

This thread went to hell real quick.........

KCTitus 08-15-2005 01:30 PM

Classic...Im reminded of another thread where speculation was poo-poo'ed:

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Originally Posted by Laz
and you know this how?

I think we have a Lexicon Entry:

Valid Rumor - Any speculation about how Carl almost screwed up a draft pick/trade/FA acquisition.

RealSNR 08-15-2005 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus
Classic...Im reminded of another thread where speculation was poo-poo'ed:



I think we have a Lexicon Entry:

Valid Rumor - Any speculation about how Carl almost screwed up a draft pick/trade/FA acquisition.

ROFL

ptlyon 08-15-2005 01:34 PM

Oh screw that - let's get back to the name calling!

BigRedChief 08-15-2005 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon
Oh screw that - let's get back to the name calling!

Linn Elliot

penguinz 08-15-2005 02:20 PM

Elvis Grbac

Mr. Laz 08-15-2005 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
I do agree that's maybe the worst rumor of the entire offseason. I think every GM uses up most of their time in case somebody blows them away with an offer. It doesn't mean Carl didn't want DJ necessarily, maybe he wanted to see if anybody knocked his socks off, if not, no biggie, he has nothing to lose by letting the clock run out. Of course I don't know if that's what happened, but it's what Carl should've done if he was smart, even though he'd apparently get criticized for it....

so then you agree with the rumor that the chiefs were weighing their options?


i never said the chiefs didn't want DJ

Mr. Laz 08-15-2005 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
No, I can't prove or disprove it. All the more reason my point is valid.

My point is that it doesn't matter. The guy has ****ed up more drafts than I care to remember, and yet people are criticizing him for a draft that WASN'T ****ED UP.

so then show me where i criticized him


i repeat ...


i only verified that the chiefs DID use the entire clock which COMMON SENSE indicates means they chiefs were exploring their options.

i made no judgement of those options ... i made no judgement about whether that was even a bad thing.


you just had to grab your "captain logic" cape and attack EVEN when there was nothing to defend.

Mr. Laz 08-15-2005 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
ROFL

I think you're gonna need some of this:

http://store1.yimg.com/I/yhst-752611..._1858_18006503

thanks ...


was feeling a little "itchy" down there :D


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