That's crazy talk!!!

For goodness sakes, look at the damn roster.

NO Willie Roaf
A 37 year old QB
A 34 year old No 1 receiver
A 36 year old guard
A revolving RT position
A 33 year old center
NO TRich
NO Priest Holmes

This is not the same damned team that broke records and kept missing the playoffs. They are older, slower, broken. This #$%^ing system is built on SPEED. We don't have speed anymore. We started losing it last year, the cracks were showing, and this year we totally lost it.

What, did the system look so damned good in 2001 when Al Saunders and Vermeil took over and we went 6-10 with Snoop Minnis catching the ball?

ANY offensive system will look good as long as you have the players with the ability to EXECUTE the system. When the QB is getting killed, is turning the ball over, when we can't block, when the receivers aren't outrunning opponents anymore, it doesn't fit. Use a system that will fit the players and will win ballgames. And get better players, get younger players who can keep up.

What, the Steelers and Pats have been winning the last few Lombardis with a record setting offense?

What I am sick of is pansy ass players who go out and get hit in the mouth by the other team and fold. This offense has been as SOFT as our defense has been, and that's why we have ZERO postseason wins since 1993. We need a damn offense which goes out there and pushes the other team around and a defense that does the same. This team needs to get rid of all the damned wusses playing on it and get some football players who will go out there and lay some wood and win some important games on the *&^%ing road...

Sitting on the bench

Getting a first down would be a productive start.

Make me long for John Mackovic.

Hope? What the hell is that?

Oh, yeah... Something we lost years ago.

I like hearing the players like LJ and Gonzo revolting on him. They won't listen to the fans to maybe they will listen to their own players.

I know, too much to hope for. Er wait... Hope?

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We need a couple of Dale Carters on this team. Big talent, big attitude. I hope we get a couple of mean tackles this offseason.

It means being a follower.

Not leading by example. Following and relying on how to build a team according to what your head coach knows and specializes in, and not taking charge like a leader, and knowing how to step up and do it yourself. I honestly believe that is what Carl Peterson does. Thats why he needs to go imo. People can blame Herm this and that, but it's all useless imo.
He is not the real core of the problem in this organization.

I just want to prove my point about Peterson.

Look at a few of our coaches over the last 10 years:

Marty...great defensive mind, brought a great defense here...But was absolutely lackluster in knowledge when it came to the offensive side of the ball. As a result, we had a great defense, and a terrible offense.

Vermeil...same thing..except vice versa.

I anticipate the same thing will happen to Herm..great defense, terrible offense

*people blame coaches. I praise the coaches for building GREAT defenses, and offenses here. I say blame the GM for being so incompetent and failing to provide them with assistance in areas, sides of the ball where they incredibly lacked knowledge. Call me crazy, but, I honestly believe that is what goes on in this organization. No wonder were so frickn mediocre. Its frustrating.

A new GM isn't crazy talk. In fact, it's getting to the point where it's becoming a reality.

Those two paragraphs illustrate Herm's brilliance.

Instead of giving an experienced QB who could recite the playbook in his sleep the option to audible this season, let's go with an inexperienced QB and give him more flexibility next year.

Nobody will expect it. Pure brilliance!

we only run 4 plays....how in the hell do you simplify that?

and why didn't we play action pass the Colts? you wait till we lose to decide this?

we're going back to Hackett ball....just watch

It's going to be fun to see how they dumb down an already dumb offense.

this is mind blowing

our run up the butt and punt offense is too complicated???

Hi everyone. Post#1 and I know you have heard from plenty disgruntled Jets fans before or ones who "just want to help you out" so I will try not to be too predictable here.

First of all I will self identify as a Jets fan who was in the anti-Herm camp. Fundemantally dishonest snake oil salesman and shameless self promoter about sums it up. Oh, and someone who makes a virtue out of being a likeable dope. Only after he has gutted your team long enough the whole "likeable" thing gets to be a bit questionable.

Anyway, as to the discussion in this thread. Herm is up to his old tricks again I see. If you start from the understanding that NOTHING is ever Herm's fault then you will also appreciate the need for Herm to find scapegoats (plausible or otherwise). So now it is your OC who gets thrown under the bus in large part for doing what Herm ordered him to do. We saw the same thing twice!! First with Teddy Cottrell and then with Paul Hackett. (yes THAT Paul Hackett. A belated thanks to Chiefs fans who came over to our boards and tried to give us a heads up on Hackett).

Anyway, The OC gets blamed, "Changes will be made" but not a firing. And that part is important. Not a firing. This has the effect of deflecting blame away from Herm (today), forcing the OC in a position where he feels grateful to Herm for "saving his job" and finally it gives Herm another year with this guy and a plausible excuse if the same mess happens next year. After all, if the crap hits the fan then Herm was just being too loyal to his guys right? Any improvements on the other hand are because Herm came in and "took charge". And you know he will call a press conference and allude ever so subtly to the Herm-changes that worked.

It is a brilliant strategy.

Anyhow, congrats on having Larry Johnson and I mean that. You could have four of five top 5 picks in the next decade and not find another one like him. I hope the workload does not abbreviate his career. I would take Gonzalez in a heartbeat. He seems to have something left.

With Herm for better or for worse the palyoffs this year, however improbable at 9-7 mean that he is now at four playoffs out of six years (one of six without extreme luck). Four playoffs in six years looks good on paper and Paul Hackett knows what that can mean to the longevity of your career. I think 4-of-6 by itself added AT LEAST one more year to his tenure with the Chiefs and probably added another HC gig to his career after the Chiefs as well.

Good luck.