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HemiEd 02-19-2007 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding
Hey dirk, how did Marty do in Washington himself?

Marty was only given one year IIRC. He inherited a team full of rich, lazy, over the hill players like Deon Sanders. They were not happy that he wanted them to work. It was Daniel Snyder's finest work putting that group together. I think Marty went .500 and then was fired in favor of Steve Spurrier, the genious.
Is there a dumber ****ing owner in the NFL?

dirk digler 02-19-2007 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding
So its okay to overlook the first 5 games?

It was only his first and last year. Norv had 7 years.

Buck 02-19-2007 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
Marty was only given one year IIRC. He inherited a team full of rich, lazy, over the hill players like Deon Sanders. They were not happy that he wanted them to work. It was Daniel Snyder's finest work putting that group together. I think Marty went .500 and then was fired in favor of Steve Spurrier, the genious.
Is there a dumber ****ing owner in the NFL?

Exactly. We don't have rich over the hill players here. Norv Turner has never had such a talented, young team. I don't think you can really knock him for his previous HC stints.

Mile High Mania 02-19-2007 04:54 PM

Well, if Norv fails to win 9 games with that team in 2007 (barring injury to an LT or similar)... he does suck greatly as a head coach.

dirk digler 02-19-2007 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding
Exactly. We don't have rich over the hill players here. Norv Turner has never had such a talented, young team. I don't think you can really knock him for his previous HC stints.

He had Collins, Moss, Porter and LaMont Jordan as his offensive weapons which isn't too horrible.

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In his last season with the Raiders there were big expectations for Turner to produce an immediate turnaround, but it didn't happen. Oakland's ineffective offense managed only 51 points and six touchdowns in its last five games and the Raiders failed to win a division game for the first time in Davis' tenure as owner. They were 1-11 against the AFC West during Turner's two seasons.
Think about that BK; 1-11 in the AFC West in 2 years.

Buck 02-19-2007 04:56 PM

Brad Johnson
Terry Allen/Stephen Davis
Michael Westbrook
Stephen Alexander

Those were Norv's best players ever in Washington
Philip Rivers
LaDainian Tomlinson
Vincent Jackson
Antonio Gates

Now other than Jackson, Turner already has his best players at those positions. Hell, maybe Jackson is already better than Michael Westbrook.

HemiEd 02-19-2007 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding
Exactly. We don't have rich over the hill players here. Norv Turner has never had such a talented, young team. I don't think you can really knock him for his previous HC stints.

I think Marty followed Turner, an interm coach was involved IIRC. I would think that it was under Turner's watch that the team was put together. Maybe that is where he got the rap of not being able to control his players.
I still remember some of the interviews of players complaining about Marty and his "old school" (work) ways.

Buck 02-19-2007 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler
Think about that BK; 1-11 in the AFC West in 2 years.

OMG your seriously implying that the Raiders of then can even sniff the jock straps of the Chargers of now?

Theres not enough > signs in the world to show you how much better the Chargers are than Turner's Raiders.

Baby Lee 02-19-2007 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding
It shows that you cant win without the talent, and we definitely have the Talent here in SD.

He went 8-3 with the same talent that went 0-5 before they got into his mode of thinking/playing.

Archie Bunker 02-19-2007 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
Is there a dumber ****ing owner in the NFL?

San Diego's is giving him a run for his money.

dirk digler 02-19-2007 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding
OMG your seriously implying that the Raiders of then can even sniff the jock straps of the Chargers of now?

Theres not enough > signs in the world to show you how much better the Chargers are than Turner's Raiders.

They are alot better but Turner is so bad as a head coach plus add the fact they will be playing a 1st place schedule with all new coaches and I smell disaster.

keg in kc 02-19-2007 05:03 PM

I don't get why people still talk about xx-place schedules anymore. Since the new format started, the difference between schedules for all the teams in a division is only 2 games.

Mile High Mania 02-19-2007 05:05 PM

The only tenure you can really use to judge is the time spent in Washington, he was there from 1994 to mid 2000. So, he was there long enough to put his stamp on the team.

They picked some guy named Shuler that didn't work out at all. Then you had Gus Frerotte and some lame ass named Trent Green? Then, Brad Johnson.

Terry Allen and Stephen Davis did well with him...

Ellard, Shepherd & Westbrook were the best WRs.

The bad thing was that for the majority of time in WAS... his defenses were statistically pretty bad, like KC from the last few years kinda bad. (sorry)

Anyway, you never know - overall, it's by far the most talented team he's had. I'm curious to see who he hires for OC and DC.

keg in kc 02-19-2007 05:07 PM

There wasn't much talent on either side of the ball on those teams, as I recall, although it's been nearly a decade since I moved away from Virginia. All a little fuzzy...

Buck 02-19-2007 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
He went 8-3 with the same talent that went 0-5 before they got into his mode of thinking/playing.

He went 8-8..

Look at the teams he beat.

Panthers (1-15 That Season)
Giants (7-9)
Seahawks(9-7)
Broncos (8-8)
Eagles (11-5)
Cardinals (7-9)
Saints (7-9)
Cardinals (7-9)

They beat 2 teams with a winning record that year, the Seahawks, and the Eagles.


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