Well, I'm more liberal than hardcore conservative... in general though, I pretty much hate all things about politics at this point. Let's not get off on that tangent though.

I've seen all of these sentiments expressed in this thread. Do I need to point out the specific posts?

I've pretty much detached myself from politics as well. I've found I'm a much happier person for it.

I'm not saying that you didn't read them... but, if that's all you learned in this thread... you didn't read the whole thread. Reading comprehension must be an issue for you... settle the debate, were you a day care kid or not?

I've learned that some kids would be better off in daycare than spending so much time with some of these parents.

I don't see how pointing out specific posts that we all have read already, will change our assessment from being different than yours.

I don't agree with your assessment, neither does MHM or Simplex, it would appear. But you want to try and prove your point anyway, so I think that would be an effort of futility.

yup

And the point of my inflammatory post was that some people are saying some pretty hurtful things about parenting. I understand that people have strong feelings about it, but telling someone that they're a crappy parent or shouldn't have had kids or that they care more about money than kids is pretty shitty.

That being said, my son is in a mother-day-out program like some others. My wife works at home and has him in the afternoons until 4pm when I get home and take over so she can finish her day of work. I also have him all summer.

I took it more that you are wiser than I initially gave you credit....

That's greatness... and one of my posts speaks to what you just said. I think it's out of place for people to point fingers and say what someone else is doing is wrong. Situations are all different.

Shall I find that post for you?

I don't know if your comment is referencing "these parents" typing in this thread, but I'm very certain that there are many parents that have no business being parents.

Getting laid and knocking someone up doesn't make you a parent... sadly though, some people haven't figured out how to stop having kids and the kids suffer.

and to add to what MHM is saying, I only remember telling the kid with no parenting experience that he didn't have the frame of reference to add a relevant aurgument, shall I find that one for you too?

Heh. CC and MHM are being awfully defensive. I didn't say that my post were directed at you. They were directed at some of the general sentiments expressed in the thread.

NewChief... the lesson of the thread can be summed up in the following manner.

1 - Sounds like the majority of parents would like to avoid full time day care.
2 - Item #1 is not reality
3 - Parents need to find a nice balance to work and raising their kids
4 - Nobody should deliver a groin kick to someone else for the decisions they've made. Disagreements are going to happen, but it doesn't make either decision "more right" than the other.
5 - All decisions that parents make should be about what is best for the kids.
6 - You don't have to be a parent to have a valid argument, but it certainly helps.
7 - It's a message board, don't take offense to anything being discussed and add value...

I'm not defensive at all... thinking that I am is kinda silly.