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Sure-Oz 12-19-2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu
I'm perfectly capable of understanding your words. Perhaps you're frustrated at your inability to say what you mean. Or maybe you just didn't remember saying it and are now too embarrassed to admit that my post was directly responsive to the idiotic point you raised. :shrug:

19 years of mediocrity is considered a superior product? He hasn't won SHIT

chagrin 12-19-2007 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu
The post I was responding to (post #12), specifically compared the seriousness of the two franchises. If the dope who posted post #12 wanted to focus on McCay instead of the franchises, the dope should have said so.

What was the name of the bus driver?

patteeu 12-19-2007 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990
Atlanta was in the NFC champioship game just a few years ago. They went to the Super Bowl in 1998.


When did the Chiefs win a playoff game again???

I pointed that out already. Are you telling me that you'd trade all of the success of the Chiefs of the 90's for one appearance in the Superbowl where your team gets embarrassed? If so, who am I to judge? For me though, I'll take the Peterson-led Chiefs' track record over that of the Falcons despite their one, semi-successful season.

patteeu 12-19-2007 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz
19 years of mediocrity is considered a superior product? He hasn't won SHIT

Neither has Atlanta.

Deberg_1990 12-19-2007 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu
I pointed that out already. Are you telling me that you'd trade all of the success of the Chiefs of the 90's for one appearance in the Superbowl where your team gets embarrassed? If so, who am I to judge? For me though, I'll take the Peterson-led Chiefs' track record over that of the Falcons despite their one, semi-successful season.


Didnt mean that at all.

I havent read through the whole thread, but if you think that it isnt time for Carl Peterson to go, then something is wrong.


Hes coasting on accomplishments from 15 years ago.

Bowser 12-19-2007 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu
Neither has Atlanta.

They've won in the playoffs with McKay. At Lambeau, no less.

patteeu 12-19-2007 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock
You're telling me you'd rather have Carl Peterson than Bill Parcells.....wow, brilliant....

Personally, I couldn't care less about "the last two decades" beyond the fact that this team hasn't won a playoff game for the last decade and a half. Here, let me make you a turd sandwich, something tells me you won't complain about it.

How many Superbowls did Bill Parcells get the Jets or the Cowboys into? Parcells has never gone to a Superbowl without Bill Belichick. Does Belichick come with the deal?

patteeu 12-19-2007 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990
Didnt mean that at all.

I havent read through the whole thread, but if you think that it isnt time for Carl Peterson to go, then something is wrong.


Hes coasting on accomplishments from 15 years ago.

Well that was my original point.

He's only got 2 more years left on his contract. I can wait. I want to let him leave on his own terms and I think he will when this contract ends. He resurrected Chiefs football and for that I'll always be grateful. If Clark Hunt decided it was time to make a change though, I wouldn't be critical of him. I doubt he will though.

And, besides, I certainly don't see any reason to dump him for an old guy like Bill Parcells. If Parcells takes Atlanta to a Superbowl championship, I'll admit I was wrong.

Wile_E_Coyote 12-19-2007 12:28 PM

I don't get the Parcel's love either. He's freaking 66 years old. DV's a pup

RedThat 12-19-2007 12:29 PM

Curious, what if Carl stays? Even after he said he would consider resigning after this season?

What if he stays and then the Chiefs go 4-12 the next year? What if they just completely suck, and ownership doesn't do a thing about it? Could this happen? I could only imagine the implosion if it does.

Brock 12-19-2007 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu
How many Superbowls did Bill Parcells get the Jets or the Cowboys into? Parcells has never gone to a Superbowl without Bill Belichick. Does Belichick come with the deal?

Bill Parcells is the reason the Cowboys are where they are. Carl Peterson is the reason the Chiefs are where they are.

Wile_E_Coyote 12-19-2007 12:31 PM

Carl will stay. What titles he has, is the question IMO

Hootie 12-19-2007 12:31 PM

I'll take McKay's tenure in Tampa Bay over CP's tenure here...I'll take Peterson's tenure over McKay's tenure in Atlanta...

patteeu 12-19-2007 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser
They've won in the playoffs with McKay. At Lambeau, no less.

When you look at Atlanta's product since 1989 and decide that winning a playoff game at Lambeau and making an embarrassing appearance in the Superbowl are more desireable than what the Chiefs have done over the same time period, then you should disagree with me. I'm OK with that.

RedThat 12-19-2007 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock
Bill Parcells is the reason the Cowboys are where they are. Carl Peterson is the reason the Chiefs are where they are.

I disagree. The reason the Cowboys are what they are is because they have an owner who won't settle for anything less than success. The Chiefs other hand do. Just a big difference in attitude when you look at the 2 sides.


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