You are right and they did play well enough to make a Superbowl, but they have had some pretty sorry rankings under Clancy.

I'm not saying that nor did my post imply that. I'm simply saying that if your going to alienate players (like the rumors state in Arizona, along with his supposed treatment of Brian Waters, his rough demeanor with Franklin, and his unlikeable attitude in the media that may wear thin) then you damn well better W I N. If not, you won't be around long.

Parcells can get away with that because he is proven. Belicheck can get away with that because he is proven. Haley hasn't proven anything yet...

I am a Haley supporter, but he better have a quick turnaround time if he wants to stay Head Coach of the KC Chiefs.
Posted via Mobile Device

If this story is true, (I'm skeptical) Will should have just kept his head down, answered "Yes sir, coach." and busted his ass 'till it passed. It's really all a guy can do in a situation like that. If the new coach has what you consider to be a bad, uninformed opinion of you... you've gotta show him that his opinion was wrong through hard work.

As a Mizzou homer, I still wish Franklin the best. Wish he'd worked out here.

This is all a weeding out process right now. You gotta remember Haley was tough on Fitzgerald too, but he responded and became a better player. Other players sulk. You can pretty much assume Franklin isn't going to any pro bowls anytime soon...

How did he alienate a player? New coaches test players all the time during the off-season and during training camp to see how mentally tough they are.

Franklin couldn't handle the test, and wanted out. I don't see why this is on Haley at all.

I also disagree with you that Haley has a short leash. Pioli knows Rome wasn't built in a day. This roster was a complete bag of shit when he took over. Haley is going to be given a long leash.

Could be he knew he was gonna cut Franklin anyways and wanted to set the tone.

so who's next?

I love this.

This could have also been part of the intel that Haley got from guys like Price before he let them out of their contract, and some of the guys from last year they knew they had to push some buttons. Let's face it, there was probably a reason Franklin wasn't very productive last year, especially with the opportunities at wideout we had...

Haley identifies the weakest member of the herd...

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/rXO3h6bpEUU&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/rXO3h6bpEUU&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

I agree, and something about this has a funny ring to it. As far the clowns at 610, their idea of journalism and story prep leads me to think they got their degrees from a thermometer. I think its safe to say the mouths moving are not telling the whole story.

There were rumors of Haley alienating players when he was with the Cards. True or False? We don't know...but the rumor is definitely out there.

Obviously we will agree to disagree. The bottom line though is that Haley isn't too likeable or friendly to the media, has been rumored to be a pretty stand-off-ish, arrogant guy, and has no real previous history of success. When you add those things together, along with his team struggling to win games, it has the makings of a quick hook.

Again, I am a Haley backer...but he needs to win some games pretty quickly before some of the other things start to rear their ugly head. Winning cures all.

That's not going to happen.

4 wins TOPS in 2009.

I think Haley will be a football coach not a players coach. If a player blows an assignment I hope he gets right in their face and offers some kind of advice and I could care less how nice he is when dishing it out. I really can't remember Herm coaching anyone on game day.

[QUOTE=TRR;5677354]There were rumors of Haley alienating players when he was with the Cards. True or False? We don't know...but the rumor is definitely out there.

Obviously we will agree to disagree. The bottom line though is that Haley isn't too likeable or friendly to the media, has been rumored to be a pretty stand-off-ish, arrogant guy, and has no real previous history of success. When you add those things together, along with his team struggling to win games, it has the makings of a quick hook.[QUOTE]

I would agree if he was coaching a team in NY or Philadelphia, and we were all fans of the Giants, Jets or Eagles. I can't see the media having that much influence in KC. Add to that the changes that have occured this offseason, from ownership on down, and there is even less pressure on Haley to win now.

I am taking a wait and see approach with Haley. I'm not concerned about the feelings of Waters or Franklin.