**** the shut up

Cassel isn't forcing it to Bowe, and Gonzalez isn't here to open it up for Bowe anymore.

Maybe he should be because all they do now is go 3 and out because he just throws 2 yard passes to guys who are scrubs.

Weiss(check the Bad Guy Thread.

Panthers OC (if Fox gets fired) Jeff Davidson, an ex pat coach TE's i think.

Mo Carthon as OC/run game coord. w/ Haley still calling plays.
Same with Joel Collier who's title is Asst. GM but moved to qb coach when gailey got canned.

Just a few off the top of my head.

I think Haley could be a great HC. I also think he screwed up firing the OC and is in over his head now. I'll wait to see what the do in the offseason staffing wise to evaluate. If he puts his ego aside and hands the rains off and brings in the proper coaches to succeed I think everything will work out fine.

Collier has a defensive background I thought, shoot myself if its Carthon, I don't think Weis would be bad, and Davidson I don't know about.

I don't know who will be available. No clue.

But I know that I'd like to avoid more Hoodie disciples who have floundered away from the teat.

Why do I think Todd Haley will flip out if they try to take the playcalling from him...

Last year:
1. Lost to NE by 7. Close game.
2. Blown out by Raiders by 15.
3. Blown out by Falcons by 24.
WIN vs. Denver
5. Blown out by Carolina (34-0).
6. Blown out by Titans by 24.
7. Lost to Jets by 4. Close game.
8. Lost in OT to Tampa by 3. Close game.
9. Lost to SD by 1. Close game.
10. Lost to NO by 10.
11. Blown out by Bills by 23.
WIN vs. Oakland
13. Lost to Denver by 7.
14. Lost to SD by 1. Close game.
15. Lost to Miami by 7.
16. Lost to Cincy by 10.

2 wins, 5 close games. Through 8 games? 1 win, 3 close games.

This year:
1. Lost to Baltimore by 14.
2. Lost to Oakland by 3. Close game.
3. Blown out by Philly by 20.
4. Lost to Giants by 11.
5. Lost to Dallas by 6 in OT. Close game.
6. WIN vs. Washington.
7. Blown out by SD by 20.
8. Lost to Jacksonville by 3. Close game.

Through 8 games? 1 win, 3 close games.

They weren't that bad last year. They're not that bad this year.

Patience, Grasshopper.

Whitlock with a whole lot of heresay as usual.

We get it. You have an agenda. You don't like the way Haley and Pioli do things. However, your track record of backing players, and coaches, why is anyone putting any stock in your opinion?

It's amazing how some of you, who flame Whitlock's posts, are lining up to perform message board hummers on him because he posts on here.

Knowing you hate Pioli and Haley is almost enough for me to rally behind them.

Did Jeff George, Ty Law, or Chester McGlockton ever give you any kickbacks?

I think he'd flip out if they just told him that it's not an option, but I think he's already decided he doesn't want to do it next year. It's just too much work for a guy that is just learning the job.

I really think Haley will be a good coach. I think he's learning, and I've expected all of this. I hated this hire when it went down, but I do like some of the tactics he's taking.

I know I'm in the minority on this but I love the fact that he's cussing guys out. ****ing perform. And if you can't, get the **** out. When he has guys that will perform, he'll stop yelling and cussing.

JD is being nice the Giants game was a blowout...and the Ravens one was a borderline blowout.

He makes horrendous gameday decisions...worse than Herm decisions.

Jacksonville really wasn't close. They got hot in the last 3 minutes of a game against a team that had stopped playing. Cassell hit a lucky ass throw compared to what he'd done the rest of the day to Chris Chambers and then Succoup aimed for the pork chop on the Charlie Brown special onside kick. They looked like dog shit all day long.

I love the Chiefs. I care about the games every Sunday regardless of their record. I've been optimistic about them and I will continue to be. But let's face it, the fun in watching a rebuild is seeing the weekly progress on the field. Where's it at?

I don't think they are worse than Herms at all. Especially the Pre-Thigpen/Gailey/Gimmick Herm.