hey a spanking with your hand if ok in my book. not a belt or anything else, but a hand....

One time my dad gave me a backhand punch thing to the face, and I started bleeding, and then he told me he'd do it again if I got blood on the carpet.

I never said all cops are pigs and am not sure how many people here did. Perhaps you could provide that answer.

I do know that some cops are assholes, thus my statement. If you don't get that, then I've given you too much credit to date, and for that I'll adjust my respect level for you.

This is exactly the missing ingredient in alot of people's interactions with law enforcement, and to be fair just because somebody has interactions doesn't mean they are a criminal. I am a CASA worker, and I have seen some really messed up stuff by dangerous suspects that was handled absolutely perfectly by some police.

I have also seen just about as many, not 1:1, but not far off, really messed up actions by police officers who don't employ your rational thought. Children are more often mistreated by law enforcement than I would ever have dared to imagine prior to starting this work, both at the time of incidents, and in custody.

Too often, procedure has replaced reason on the law side, and emotional reaction has replaced it on the public side. I don't know where it goes from here, but it's only getting worse, both for good cops, and for law abiding citizens.

hey i got that too!:D

Yeah our cops got tazers, and had a presentation about them. Apparently our town of 1,800 needs them. Anyway they tazed an officer during their presentation of them.

Are people justifying the behavior, or are they refraining from passing judgment because they don't know all the facts?

I know this much: Tasing after leaving yourself open for a kick in the coin purse is nothing more than retaliation by shitty cop.

Yea, so your one day seminar says it's okay, tasers are harmless. Next time, just say you don't have any idea what they do or how they do it. At least then you'll be telling the truth.

If any other person in the community besides a cop administered this kind of discipline, they'd be escorted to jail.

I wish the officer well. In his next career.

And Coffee, one other thing: I'm as law abiding a human as you will find on this earth. And I'm wise enough to understand we disagree -vehemently - on this issue and most other LE issues.

That doesn't mean I think you would do this. And it doesn't mean that I dislike or disrespect you as a gentleman.
It means that there are an increasing number of LEO's who are ill equipped for the job. It's not officer O'Leary walking a beat anymore.

Something is dreadfully off with these parents and kid.

But this is so disgraceful, so dangerous... do taser companies test on 10 year olds?, that its hard to fathom, this 'police officer' couldnt have even put her in cuffs? & MADE her sit, say or do anything before resorting to potentially lethal force on a 10!? year old.

These ****ing tasers, its far outta control... its pussies using them as crutches when a some smart/ballsy police work is whats called for.

These things shouldnt be in the hands of every 'cop', it reminds me of the old joke... What do you call a medical student who graduated last in his class?...Doctor.

...or Policeman.

Wasn't there a thread here a few weeks ago about Ozark cops behaving badly? Anyone recall that?

ah, I'm in a crappy mood today, hell the last week, anyway. I agree we disagree on alot of these issues, but I'd sure as hell still share a beer and watch the chiefs loose any day of the week with you bro, hope it didn't come off any differently. And it's more than a day seminar on that damn thing, I personally don't like it and when given the choice will leave that damn thing in the locker room. Even the damn military is moving to this crap, had ANOTHER class just last week during some detainee ops training. whatever, though neither here nor there, just didn't want to talk about this topic so long.

and to Pitt, I misused the quotation marks, wasn't trying to quote it like it was something I read you say, more as a generalized sentiment of several posters opinions. that's the only miscommunication I see from my end....

To all others, I've said here today that as a parent I don't like the idea of my kids being tased either, and I've never said it was ok for this officer to do this, I've simply said we don't know all the facts. I think it could be very plausable that the officer would have been in more trouble for putting hands on the minor subject than using a taser. And it is because of how reason has been replaced by procedure, and that sentiment can and has given an otherwise sensible person the feeling of being handcuffed, so to speak.

Scott, taser are not responsible for any death, not on any death certificate, and taser int has not lost any liable suit. It's an unpleasant feeling, and that's about it. I'd rather be tased than maced, any day of the week.

There have always been bad cops, just like there have always been criminal psychopaths. They just all get more attention these days. When I was a teenager, cops ****ed with us all the time for no reason. And sometimes with good reason. But back then, our parents told us it was our own fault for being dumb shits.

I think it's probably better now that police need to be at least somewhat accountable for their actions. Back then they could get away with anything.

Actually, yes.

If you distract the police officer, they may miss something happening around them, the perpetrator slipping something out of their pocket to either hide it or else to use it as a weapon, another person slipping up on them from the other direction, etc.

Yeah, when something is going down, for the officer's safety, it's almost always best to stay back and to stay quiet.

If that distracts the officer, I'd hate to see the charges brought against a piece of tin foil.