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Sure-Oz 01-11-2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6436061)
Did we ever get that pitcher we were going after? The one who was good but coming off an injury?

Which one is that? Bedard?

DeezNutz 01-11-2010 08:47 PM

We got the gold-plated goose, that's for damn sure.

I figure when Moosetacos and Hosmer flame out, Moore will officially be on the hot seat. Three high-priced busts in a row: Hochevar, Moosetacos, and Hosmer should put anyone on alert.

And I think the Crow selection was a big mistake, but that's another story.

petegz28 01-11-2010 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6436064)
Which one is that? Bedard?

Yea, I think so.

petegz28 01-11-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6436066)
We got the gold-plated goose, that's for damn sure.

I figure when Moosetacos and Hosmer flame out, Moore will officially be on the hot seat. Three high-priced busts in a row: Hochevar, Moosetacos, and Hosmer should put anyone on alert.

And I think the Crow selection was a big mistake, but that's another story.



I don't have a problem with Mossetacos or Hosmer being drafted. I DO however have a problem with Moosetacos AND Hosmer being drafted.

JFC, why would we draft guys who could come up in a couple seasons??? 2 guys that young was a mistake.

Sure-Oz 01-11-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6436066)
We got the gold-plated goose, that's for damn sure.

I figure when Moosetacos and Hosmer flame out, Moore will officially be on the hot seat. Three high-priced busts in a row: Hochevar, Moosetacos, and Hosmer should put anyone on alert.

And I think the Crow selection was a big mistake, but that's another story.

Who did you want instead of Crowe?

Moose Tacos and Hosmer are the only hope right now....the drafts have really killed us...i have almost no faith in anyone becoming good out of our minors. We got lucky that Butler has atleast shown he is a solid player

DeezNutz 01-11-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6436072)
I don't have a problem with Mossetacos or Hosmer being drafted. I DO however have a problem with Moosetacos AND Hosmer being drafted.

JFC, why would we draft guys who could come up in a couple seasons??? 2 guys that young was a mistake.

You can't take those guys, while passing on elite catching prospects. Talk about draft value and need intersecting.

And before the Hosmer selection, Rany had a great breakdown for why Smoak had to be the choice between the two.

Sure-Oz 01-11-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6436067)
Yea, I think so.

I dont think he has signed anywhere. I would like to take a flyer on him honestly, but DM would rather sign 38 year old pitchers or guys that havent played in 2-3 years

DeezNutz 01-11-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6436078)
Who did you want instead of Crowe?

Moose Tacos and Hosmer are the only hope right now....the drafts have really killed us...i have almost no faith in anyone becoming good out of our minors. We got lucky that Butler has atleast shown he is a solid player

Green. No question. Take the college SS.

DeezNutz 01-11-2010 08:52 PM

Dayton talks shit about "the process" but his entire draft philosophy has changed since getting to KC.

Trust what, mother****er? You're not even sure what you're doing.

petegz28 01-11-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6436081)
You can't take those guys, while passing on elite catching prospects. Talk about draft value and need intersecting.

And before the Hosmer selection, Rany had a great breakdown for why Smoak had to be the choice between the two.

I have argued and argued and argued for the last 10+ years that this team needs a REAL catcher. You just don't see too many teams in the playoffs with bad catchers. In fact I would say most of the best catchers in the game are in the playoffs or at least contending every year.

petegz28 01-11-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6436085)
I dont think he has signed anywhere. I would like to take a flyer on him honestly, but DM would rather sign 38 year old pitchers or guys that havent played in 2-3 years

I'd like to see him as well. He could be a great pickup if he is healthy and can return to prior-injury level.

petegz28 01-11-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6436092)
Dayton talks shit about "the process" but his entire draft philosophy has changed since getting to KC.

Trust what, mother****er? You're not even sure what you're doing.

His process seems to be to draft guys that still have 4-5 years in AA\AAA, and then wait another 3-4 as they aclimate to the ML's. You would think the Gordon experiment would have shown this team a rookie is not going to save this team. Didn't work with Grienke, didn't work with Gordon and ain't going to work the Hosmer and Moosey. And it didn't work with the pitcher we signed a couple eyars ago. He is so good I forgot his name. Oh yea, Hochevar.

DeezNutz 01-11-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6436093)
I have argued and argued and argued for the last 10+ years that this team needs a REAL catcher. You just don't see too many teams in the playoffs with bad catchers. In fact I would say most of the best catchers in the game are in the playoffs or at least contending every year.

Just think about how much more encouraged we'd be about the future of the team if we had a second-year Wieters or a Posey ready to take over as a n00b?

Instead, we just paid decent $$$ to get, literally, the worst starting catcher in MLB.

Sure-Oz 01-11-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6436087)
Green. No question. Take the college SS.

I really was leaning towards that pick as well....atleast the value could possibly be there with Crowe

DeezNutz 01-11-2010 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6436100)
His process seems to be to draft guys that still have 4-5 years in AA\AAA, and then wait another 3-4 as they aclimate to the ML's.

When he got here: HS, high-upside guys. This was the process.

As of '09, he's on record as saying that college players are the way to go.

Ass. Clown.


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