All that means jack when you're 2-14. Records are what matter and they've sucked for a looooong time. Even the times they were mediocre or decent I remember them having very good talent. The bottomline is, they aren't a winner and I think it's more of an organizational thing that comes directly from the top. They don't possess the necessary leadership qualities of what is takes to build and lead a successful organization from both an ownership and management stand point of view and its clearly shown over the years.

Matthew Stafford? Rookie.

Calvin Johnson? 3rd year.

Kevin Smith? 2nd year.

Ernie Sims? 3rd year.

DeAndre Levy? Rookie.

Louis Delmas? Rookie.

Cliff Avril? 2nd year.

Sammie Lee Hill? Rookie.

Just to name a few reasons...

They've got a core of talented young players to be sure.
With the right coaching...sheesh.

Funny, you could have said the exact same thing about the Arizona Cardinals up until last year.

If they continue to draft like they did last year, they'll be a ****ing monster in 3 years.

We'll still be waiting for Tyson Jackson and Matt Cassel to show us something.

Yep.

And I think Schwartz is the guy for the job.

I think Detroit will undergo an Arizona-like reformation in the next 3 years.

I really like Schwartz. He was on my wishlist when the KC job was vacant.

Me too. I wanted him as HC and DeCosta as the GM.

I know ChiefsCountry was very high on him as well.

Good strong defensive-minded coach.
That area of this team would be in much better shape.

Oh okay. Right, my bad. I thought the emulating 49ers part was in relation to the Chiefs building their team with ex-49ers coaches...Thats why I was like huh? Thank you for clarifying this with me.

yeah, the guy that hired Gunther Cunningham :shake:

Yeah, because the guy that hired Clancy Pendergast is a real ****ing genius.

ROFL

Even good Head Coaches make mistakes.
He may not be worth the hair on your aunt's ass now, but...
He's had success in this league.

Success or Failure for them will be determined pending on how Stafford pans out. Of course, same thing can be said about the Chiefs with Cassel. Both quarterbacks have lots of room to improve. The key to progress for both teams will depend on two critical players at two key positions.

I believe a major contributor to Arizona's success is Kurt Warner. As soon as he came along, and started playing at a high level for them, they took off. Once he went down, things were a bit different.

But I think both teams, Detroit and Kansas City are in similar situations. Chiefs do have there share of young talent too. Don't kid yourself. They just often get criticized more than anything around here. If the Chiefs could have themselves a couple of good drafts they'll be making noise in a few years.

I really liked him. I think his 4-3 style of defensive would have been perfect for the personal we had in place. Dorsey could have reached a high level under him IMO. Flowers, DJ, Pollard, Hali all fit as well. Not to mention I liked his MoneyBall approach - stat type guru.

If Stafford wasn't hurt I bet Detroit would have won a few more games but it looks like they will luck out and get Suh now.

They did hire ex-49ers coaches.