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Saccopoo 01-09-2010 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6425896)
I had Tate on there with a slash between him and Benn. I honestly didnt know about his problem with drops, if I had I wouldn't even be wasting my time with him.

I like Shipley too, I cant believe I didnt have him there instead, as I have seen him play quite a bit and I like his style.

How does the rest of that mock look?

I like McClain. I liked Curry. Probably should have picked him in hindsight. About the same type of player actually (in that their athleticism will allow them to play most LB spots) and the Chiefs definitely have a desperate need at ILB. (I think Belcher is solid and will be a major contributor next season at MLB.)

If I had my choice, I'd take Berry in the first and then a guy like Washington from TCU or Sean Lee in the second or Joe Pawelek/Jamar Cheney in the fourth or fifth. But I wouldn't complain about McClain.

They'll have to look hard at Cody if he's there in the second.

There's a number of tight ends that I'd pick above Moeaki in the third. Pitta, Dickson, Hernandez. If he was there in the fifth, which he probably will be, he'd be worth a look.

I don't think Calloway or Rolle will be there in the fifth. Both are likely third or fourth rounders. They be steals in the fifth IMO.

BossChief 01-09-2010 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6425906)
I like McClain. I liked Curry. Probably should have picked him in hindsight. About the same type of player actually (in that their athleticism will allow them to play most LB spots) and the Chiefs definitely have a desperate need at ILB. (I think Belcher is solid and will be a major contributor next season at MLB.)

If I had my choice, I'd take Berry in the first and then a guy like Washington from TCU or Sean Lee in the second or Joe Pawelek/Jamar Cheney in the fourth or fifth. But I wouldn't complain about McClain.

They'll have to look hard at Cody if he's there in the second.

There's a number of tight ends that I'd pick above Moeaki in the third. Pitta, Dickson, Hernandez. If he was there in the fifth, which he probably will be, he'd be worth a look.

I don't think Calloway or Rolle will be there in the fifth. Both are likely third or fourth rounders. They be steals in the fifth IMO.

I agree on Belcher. I have seemed to take to him since PS. Seems to have a lot of the tools it takes to make it in the middle.

I have watched a lot of Moeaki and I would take him and not look back in the third. Kirk Ferentz said he is the best tight end he has ever coached and that is pretty telling because of Dallas Clark coming from there. I think Moeaki ends up a very productive pro and would be a great safety net for MC. If it werent for injuries, he might be thought of as a higher pick, but again I think he will be a much better pro.

Saccopoo 01-09-2010 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 58kcfan89 (Post 6425905)
Maybe so, but Curry was never considered to be as knowledgeable about the game as McClain (at least as far as I can remember). Add in the fact that no one seemed to know where Curry could play his best ball at (ILB or OLB? 3-4 or 4-3?) and I'd rather have McClain than Curry.. And no, that's not hindsight, I was never really sold on Curry in a 3-4.

Then again, I didn't pay much attention last year, so I don't know why people did or didn't want Curry. Just my 2 cents.

Because Curry had no faults in his game, was very athletic, big and smart. He was equally good at coverage and the run and shed blocks extremely well as well as being strong enough to take on blockers, fight through them and get to the ball.

Problem was, he played at Wake, so he didn't get the chance to have Brent Musberger blowing sunshine up his ass for all the world to see/hear. McClain is a stud, but I don't think he's as good as Curry was at the same stage. He's got a lot more help than Curry did in terms of talent around him and as such, Curry had to do a lot more as far as covering the field.

I think that the Chiefs have a chance to get a truly special player in Berry with that pick, and could potentially pick up a guy like Brandon Spikes, Daryll Washington, Sean Lee or Pat Angerer in the second or third round. I like Belcher as the future MLB, so I hope that they are looking for more of a true ILB.

Like I said, I wouldn't complain about McClain. But if they pick him instead of Berry, when they could have had Curry instead of Jackson last year, I'm going to be a little peeved.

eazyb81 01-10-2010 12:51 PM

Rolando McClain is the best ILB prospect this decade, period. I like him as a better LB prospect than Curry or Willis when they came out. He's not quite the athletic freak, but he moves so well for a guy that is 6'4" 260. He's not the sideline-to-sideline gazelle that Curry is, but he is a beast against the run, a great inside blitzer, and has perfect technique.

He's been a coach on the field since he was a freshman and has mastered Saban's 3-4 scheme. Unlike most LBs, we won't have to project how he will transition to the 3-4 - we have three years of film to rely on. Saban said he is the smartest player he has ever coached and is a tireless worker both in practice and in film sessions.

We've had some good luck with Butkus award winners from Alabama too. :)

OnTheWarpath15 01-10-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 6430321)
Rolando McClain is the best ILB prospect this decade, period. I like him as a better LB prospect than Curry or Willis when they came out. He's not quite the athletic freak, but he moves so well for a guy that is 6'4" 260. He's not the sideline-to-sideline gazelle that Curry is, but he is a beast against the run, a great inside blitzer, and has perfect technique.

He's been a coach on the field since he was a freshman and has mastered Saban's 3-4 scheme. Unlike most LBs, we won't have to project how he will transition to the 3-4 - we have three years of film to rely on. Saban said he is the smartest player he has ever coached and is a tireless worker both in practice and in film sessions.

We've had some good luck with Butkus award winners from Alabama too. :)

I definitely think he's a better prospect than Curry, but think he's a slight notch below Wills.

I just hope he doesn't end up inside the division.

eazyb81 01-10-2010 01:32 PM

This is the type of leader our defense is sorely lacking.

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Rausch 01-10-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by talastan (Post 6423179)
He's not only a gifted athlete but a very intellectual player.

If you hear those words about a MLB/SS/QB you draft the guy...

Micjones 01-10-2010 01:37 PM

I'll take McClain if Berry's off the board. We're in a dead zone again so...
Give me an impact player. RM's 125-140 tackle per year kind of guy.
He can come in and make an immediate contribution.

Hammock Parties 01-10-2010 01:41 PM

Our middle linebacker missed more tackles than just about anyone in the league this year. Furthermore, he couldn't cover his grandma.

Yes.

doomy3 01-10-2010 02:16 PM

If Berry is off the board at 5, I would be good with McClain. It isn't like we couldn't use an ILB that can actually make tackles. Plus, McClain seems like a leader, and he played on a winning team.

Mecca 01-10-2010 02:17 PM

I have to admit there is something really funny about a guy trashing Benn but liking Jordan ****ing Shipley.

doomy3 01-10-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6430698)
I have to admit there is something really funny about a guy trashing Benn but liking Jordan ****ing Shipley.

I think Shipley will be a good slot in the NFL. Benn is very physically gifted, but he really hasn't done much with it. Sort of reminds me of a Heyward-Bey type.

Mecca 01-10-2010 02:22 PM

Benn spent his college career with Juice Williams.

Extra Point 01-10-2010 02:27 PM

McClain. Has the tools.

OnTheWarpath15 01-10-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6430698)
I have to admit there is something really funny about a guy trashing Benn but liking Jordan ****ing Shipley.

B12, baby.


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