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Football Outsiders Ranks Matt Cassel 44th of 46 QBs (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=221370)

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6424072)

Outplayed Cassel? Based on these rankings? You're comparing a guy who played in 4 games and had 119 pass attempts to a guy who played 15 games and attempted 493 passes. The dude also threw 3 TD's and 9 INT's in those games and had a QB rating 20 points below Cassel, so I would hardly call that outplaying...

Holy shit, what a moron.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6424725)

Proof that you cant take a kid that only started 15 games through his whole college and pro career, combined, and drop him off on a 2-14 team devoid of talent and then proceed to deprive him of a qb coach and OC that is required for a young qb to learn and progress, right before the season starts, and then installing a new offense days before the season starts and expect him to succeed in that scenario. Or even be average.

I and many others expected a below average year from him, just not this bad.

Im willing to bet that he makes a pronounced jump up in these rankings by this time next year after some of these gaping weaknesses are fixed and he progresses as qbs with his work ethic do.

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<table class="stats" border="2" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr> <td align="center">Player</td> <td align="center">Team</td> <td align="center">DYAR</td> <td align="center">Rk</td> <td align="center">YAR</td> <td align="center">Rk</td> <td align="center">DVOA</td> <td align="center">Rk</td> <td align="center">VOA</td> <td align="center">Passes</td> <td align="center">Yards</td> <td align="center">EYds</td> <td align="center">TD</td> <td align="center">FK</td> <td align="center">FL</td> <td align="center">INT</td> <td align="center">C%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>K.Warner</td> <td>STL</td> <td align="right">1,667</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1,630</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">33.1%</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">32.1%</td> <td align="right">590</td> <td align="right">4,706</td> <td align="right">5,305</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">69.3%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>R.Gannon</td> <td>OAK</td> <td align="right">1,052</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1,248</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">16.4%</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">21.6%</td> <td align="right">576</td> <td align="right">3,685</td> <td align="right">4,506</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">66.7%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>S.McNair</td> <td>TEN</td> <td align="right">1,006</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">884</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">22.4%</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">18.3%</td> <td align="right">478</td> <td align="right">3,305</td> <td align="right">3,789</td> <td align="right">21</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">61.6%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>J.Garcia</td> <td>SF</td> <td align="right">922</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">965</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">13.9%</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">15.1%</td> <td align="right">540</td> <td align="right">3,526</td> <td align="right">4,221</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">62.9%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>B.Favre</td> <td>GB</td> <td align="right">833</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">925</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">12.1%</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">14.7%</td> <td align="right">553</td> <td align="right">3,939</td> <td align="right">4,014</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">61.7%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>P.Manning</td> <td>IND</td> <td align="right">829</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">677</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">11.1%</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">7.0%</td> <td align="right">577</td> <td align="right">3,954</td> <td align="right">4,124</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">63.5%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>J.Plummer</td> <td>ARI</td> <td align="right">581</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">558</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">5.9%</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">5.2%</td> <td align="right">566</td> <td align="right">3,621</td> <td align="right">3,543</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">58.2%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>J.Fiedler</td> <td>MIA</td> <td align="right">519</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">546</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">6.3%</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">7.3%</td> <td align="right">477</td> <td align="right">3,149</td> <td align="right">3,104</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">60.9%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>A.Van Pelt</td> <td>BUF</td> <td align="right">463</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">334</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">11.6%</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">5.3%</td> <td align="right">322</td> <td align="right">2,032</td> <td align="right">2,269</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">59.0%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>K.Stewart</td> <td>PIT</td> <td align="right">451</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">564</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">4.4%</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">8.3%</td> <td align="right">475</td> <td align="right">2,971</td> <td align="right">2,949</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">60.8%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>D.Flutie</td> <td>SD</td> <td align="right">397</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">394</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">0.4%</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">0.3%</td> <td align="right">551</td> <td align="right">3,313</td> <td align="right">3,301</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">17</td> <td align="right">57.0%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>T.Brady</td> <td>NE</td> <td align="right">371</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">379</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">1.4%</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">1.6%</td> <td align="right">464</td> <td align="right">2,823</td> <td align="right">2,896</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">64.1%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>B.Johnson</td> <td>TB</td> <td align="right">363</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">489</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">-1.7%</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">1.6%</td> <td align="right">609</td> <td align="right">3,260</td> <td align="right">3,583</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">61.3%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>D.Culpepper</td> <td>MIN</td> <td align="right">312</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">163</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">0.9%</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">-4.9%</td> <td align="right">411</td> <td align="right">2,529</td> <td align="right">2,515</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">64.7%</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center">Player</td> <td align="center">Team</td> <td align="center">DYAR</td> <td align="center">Rk</td> <td align="center">YAR</td> <td align="center">Rk</td> <td align="center">DVOA</td> <td align="center">Rk</td> <td align="center">VOA</td> <td align="center">Passes</td> <td align="center">Yards</td> <td align="center">EYds</td> <td align="center">TD</td> <td align="center">FK</td> <td align="center">FL</td> <td align="center">INT</td> <td align="center">C%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>M.Brunell</td> <td>JAC</td> <td align="right">284</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">308</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">-2.7%</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">-2.0%</td> <td align="right">536</td> <td align="right">3,020</td> <td align="right">3,093</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">61.6%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>C.Chandler</td> <td>ATL</td> <td align="right">223</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">270</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">-2.3%</td> <td align="right">17</td> <td align="right">-0.4%</td> <td align="right">415</td> <td align="right">2,700</td> <td align="right">2,324</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">61.6%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>K.Collins</td> <td>NYG</td> <td align="right">186</td> <td align="right">17</td> <td align="right">133</td> <td align="right">21</td> <td align="right">-6.4%</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td align="right">-7.8%</td> <td align="right">615</td> <td align="right">3,553</td> <td align="right">3,422</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">57.7%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>T.Dilfer</td> <td>SEA</td> <td align="right">151</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">174</td> <td align="right">17</td> <td align="right">6.4%</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">9.1%</td> <td align="right">136</td> <td align="right">1,005</td> <td align="right">897</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">59.8%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>D.McNabb</td> <td>PHI</td> <td align="right">120</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td align="right">227</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">-7.6%</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">-4.4%</td> <td align="right">536</td> <td align="right">3,033</td> <td align="right">2,886</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">58.1%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>J.Miller</td> <td>CHI</td> <td align="right">114</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">160</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td align="right">-6.8%</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">-5.1%</td> <td align="right">415</td> <td align="right">2,301</td> <td align="right">2,277</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">58.1%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>B.Griese</td> <td>DEN</td> <td align="right">105</td> <td align="right">21</td> <td align="right">90</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">-7.8%</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">-8.3%</td> <td align="right">495</td> <td align="right">2,711</td> <td align="right">2,667</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">61.4%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>C.Batch</td> <td>DET</td> <td align="right">90</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">157</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">-7.4%</td> <td align="right">21</td> <td align="right">-4.7%</td> <td align="right">379</td> <td align="right">2,346</td> <td align="right">2,078</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">59.1%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>A.Brooks</td> <td>NO</td> <td align="right">81</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">70</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">-9.0%</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">-9.3%</td> <td align="right">616</td> <td align="right">3,607</td> <td align="right">3,187</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">56.6%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>R.Cunningham</td> <td>BAL</td> <td align="right">64</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">-0.9%</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">-7.5%</td> <td align="right">104</td> <td align="right">511</td> <td align="right">588</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">62.1%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>T.Green</td> <td>KC</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">74</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">-10.3%</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">-9.1%</td> <td align="right">570</td> <td align="right">3,730</td> <td align="right">2,983</td> <td align="right">17</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">57.1%</td></tr></tbody></table>

<table class="stats" border="2" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>S.Matthews</td> <td>CHI</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">-88</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">-11.1%</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">-21.0%</td> <td align="right">136</td> <td align="right">660</td> <td align="right">713</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">65.6%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>V.Testaverde</td> <td>NYJ</td> <td align="right">-16</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">-11.7%</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">-10.0%</td> <td align="right">468</td> <td align="right">2,639</td> <td align="right">2,454</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">59.4%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>T.Detmer</td> <td>DET</td> <td align="right">-52</td> <td align="right">28</td> <td align="right">-136</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">-16.2%</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">-24.4%</td> <td align="right">164</td> <td align="right">870</td> <td align="right">757</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">61.7%</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center">Player</td> <td align="center">Team</td> <td align="center">DYAR</td> <td align="center">Rk</td> <td align="center">YAR</td> <td align="center">Rk</td> <td align="center">DVOA</td> <td align="center">Rk</td> <td align="center">VOA</td> <td align="center">Passes</td> <td align="center">Yards</td> <td align="center">EYds</td> <td align="center">TD</td> <td align="center">FK</td> <td align="center">FL</td> <td align="center">INT</td> <td align="center">C%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>E.Grbac</td> <td>BAL</td> <td align="right">-60</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">-22</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">-13.0%</td> <td align="right">28</td> <td align="right">-11.8%</td> <td align="right">495</td> <td align="right">2,965</td> <td align="right">2,558</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">58.0%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Q.Carter</td> <td>DAL</td> <td align="right">-76</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">-44</td> <td align="right">28</td> <td align="right">-17.8%</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">-15.0%</td> <td align="right">189</td> <td align="right">1,038</td> <td align="right">808</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">52.0%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>M.McMahon</td> <td>DET</td> <td align="right">-101</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">-131</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">-23.8%</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">-27.3%</td> <td align="right">138</td> <td align="right">583</td> <td align="right">526</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">45.6%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>A.Wright</td> <td>DAL</td> <td align="right">-112</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">-161</td> <td align="right">33</td> <td align="right">-28.6%</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td align="right">-36.1%</td> <td align="right">107</td> <td align="right">560</td> <td align="right">366</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">50.0%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>T.Banks</td> <td>WAS</td> <td align="right">-136</td> <td align="right">33</td> <td align="right">-75</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">-16.5%</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">-14.1%</td> <td align="right">406</td> <td align="right">2,244</td> <td align="right">1,843</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">54.2%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>J.Kitna</td> <td>CIN</td> <td align="right">-138</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">-203</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">-14.8%</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">-16.5%</td> <td align="right">613</td> <td align="right">3,157</td> <td align="right">2,838</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">21</td> <td align="right">54.2%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>M.Vick</td> <td>ATL</td> <td align="right">-200</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">-279</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">-34.7%</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td align="right">-44.0%</td> <td align="right">137</td> <td align="right">691</td> <td align="right">415</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">44.2%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>R.Leaf</td> <td>DAL</td> <td align="right">-209</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td align="right">-205</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">-46.8%</td> <td align="right">40</td> <td align="right">-46.2%</td> <td align="right">103</td> <td align="right">444</td> <td align="right">189</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">51.7%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>M.Hasselbeck</td> <td>SEA</td> <td align="right">-229</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">-301</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">-21.1%</td> <td align="right">33</td> <td align="right">-24.2%</td> <td align="right">364</td> <td align="right">1,795</td> <td align="right">1,543</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">55.2%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>R.Johnson</td> <td>BUF</td> <td align="right">-271</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">-228</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td align="right">-29.1%</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">-26.2%</td> <td align="right">243</td> <td align="right">1,249</td> <td align="right">840</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">63.3%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>S.Wynn</td> <td>MIN</td> <td align="right">-374</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td align="right">-390</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td align="right">-67.8%</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">-70.3%</td> <td align="right">108</td> <td align="right">338</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">50.0%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>T.Couch</td> <td>CLE</td> <td align="right">-525</td> <td align="right">40</td> <td align="right">-440</td> <td align="right">40</td> <td align="right">-28.0%</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">-25.3%</td> <td align="right">514</td> <td align="right">2,741</td> <td align="right">1,794</td> <td align="right">17</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">21</td> <td align="right">60.0%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>C.Weinke</td> <td>CAR</td> <td align="right">-665</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">-616</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">-29.2%</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">-27.9%</td> <td align="right">577</td> <td align="right">2,854</td> <td align="right">2,054</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td align="right">54.7%</td></tr></tbody></table>

What's that? Oh, Trent Green in his god awful 2001....played above replacement level, ranking 25th/41 QBs.

Trent Green, 2001: Above replacement level.

The 1996 Chiefs who missed the playoffs in Bono's last year:

PASSING: Minimum 100 passes, 47 players ranked

<table class="stats" border="2" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr> <td align="center">Player</td> <td align="center">Team</td> <td align="center">DYAR</td> <td align="center">Rk</td> <td align="center">YAR</td> <td align="center">Rk</td> <td align="center">DVOA</td> <td align="center">Rk</td> <td align="center">VOA</td> <td align="center">Passes</td> <td align="center">Yards</td> <td align="center">EYds</td> <td align="center">TD</td> <td align="center">FK</td> <td align="center">FL</td> <td align="center">INT</td> <td align="center">C%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>B.Favre</td> <td>GB</td> <td align="right">967</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">894</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">14.7%</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">12.8%</td> <td align="right">588</td> <td align="right">3,703</td> <td align="right">4,328</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">60.0%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>V.Testaverde</td> <td>BAL</td> <td align="right">967</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">835</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">13.9%</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">10.5%</td> <td align="right">590</td> <td align="right">3,941</td> <td align="right">4,420</td> <td align="right">33</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td align="right">59.3%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>D.Marino</td> <td>MIA</td> <td align="right">844</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">837</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">22.7%</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">22.5%</td> <td align="right">403</td> <td align="right">2,814</td> <td align="right">3,154</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">59.6%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>G.Frerotte</td> <td>WAS</td> <td align="right">770</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">712</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">13.9%</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">12.1%</td> <td align="right">503</td> <td align="right">3,400</td> <td align="right">3,520</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">57.6%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>S.Young</td> <td>SF</td> <td align="right">741</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">651</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">21.4%</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">17.5%</td> <td align="right">355</td> <td align="right">2,274</td> <td align="right">2,841</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">68.2%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>T.Aikman</td> <td>DAL</td> <td align="right">729</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">743</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">12.5%</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">12.9%</td> <td align="right">488</td> <td align="right">3,165</td> <td align="right">3,478</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">64.2%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>J.Elway</td> <td>DEN</td> <td align="right">694</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">823</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">10.6%</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">14.7%</td> <td align="right">498</td> <td align="right">3,170</td> <td align="right">3,513</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">61.7%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>M.Brunell</td> <td>JAC</td> <td align="right">637</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">773</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">5.0%</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">8.4%</td> <td align="right">618</td> <td align="right">4,236</td> <td align="right">4,072</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td align="right">63.7%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>D.Bledsoe</td> <td>NE</td> <td align="right">637</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">809</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3.7%</td> <td align="right">17</td> <td align="right">7.7%</td> <td align="right">669</td> <td align="right">4,075</td> <td align="right">4,315</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">60.1%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>K.Collins</td> <td>CAR</td> <td align="right">618</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">664</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">14.2%</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">16.0%</td> <td align="right">391</td> <td align="right">2,511</td> <td align="right">2,803</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">56.2%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>T.Detmer</td> <td>PHI</td> <td align="right">504</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">501</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">7.5%</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">7.3%</td> <td align="right">433</td> <td align="right">2,753</td> <td align="right">2,867</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">59.8%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>D.Krieg</td> <td>CHI</td> <td align="right">479</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">329</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">7.2%</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">1.5%</td> <td align="right">399</td> <td align="right">2,222</td> <td align="right">2,755</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">60.2%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>B.Johnson</td> <td>MIN</td> <td align="right">431</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">525</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">8.7%</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">13.1%</td> <td align="right">332</td> <td align="right">2,186</td> <td align="right">2,332</td> <td align="right">17</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">62.9%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>S.Humphries</td> <td>SD</td> <td align="right">368</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">274</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">2.6%</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">-0.9%</td> <td align="right">439</td> <td align="right">2,556</td> <td align="right">2,655</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">56.3%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>J.Blake</td> <td>CIN</td> <td align="right">351</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">568</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">-2.0%</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">3.7%</td> <td align="right">607</td> <td align="right">3,426</td> <td align="right">3,568</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">56.6%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>P.Justin</td> <td>IND</td> <td align="right">347</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">303</td> <td align="right">17</td> <td align="right">31.9%</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">26.4%</td> <td align="right">135</td> <td align="right">820</td> <td align="right">1,123</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">58.3%</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center">Player</td> <td align="center">Team</td> <td align="center">DYAR</td> <td align="center">Rk</td> <td align="center">YAR</td> <td align="center">Rk</td> <td align="center">DVOA</td> <td align="center">Rk</td> <td align="center">VOA</td> <td align="center">Passes</td> <td align="center">Yards</td> <td align="center">EYds</td> <td align="center">TD</td> <td align="center">FK</td> <td align="center">FL</td> <td align="center">INT</td> <td align="center">C%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>J.Hostetler</td> <td>OAK</td> <td align="right">344</td> <td align="right">17</td> <td align="right">408</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">0.9%</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td align="right">3.1%</td> <td align="right">441</td> <td align="right">2,484</td> <td align="right">2,776</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">60.5%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>B.Esiason</td> <td>ARI</td> <td align="right">341</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">204</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">3.8%</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">-2.2%</td> <td align="right">361</td> <td align="right">2,298</td> <td align="right">2,292</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">56.4%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>J.Friesz</td> <td>SEA</td> <td align="right">281</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td align="right">309</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">8.9%</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">10.8%</td> <td align="right">229</td> <td align="right">1,574</td> <td align="right">1,514</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">56.9%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>S.Bono</td> <td>KC</td> <td align="right">269</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">145</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">-1.9%</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">-6.1%</td> <td align="right">463</td> <td align="right">2,608</td> <td align="right">2,703</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">54.1%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>S.Mitchell</td> <td>DET</td> <td align="right">235</td> <td align="right">21</td> <td align="right">155</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">-3.3%</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">-5.9%</td> <td align="right">482</td> <td align="right">2,859</td> <td align="right">2,731</td> <td align="right">17</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">17</td> <td align="right">58.2%</td></tr></tbody></table>

Steve Bono, 20/47 QBs.

I wonder who Cassel blew to get that high on the list.

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 6426519)

It's not just about pocket presence it's the way they see the field and process information. Favre and Romo often literally throw no look passes on the football field. They see everything at once, without zeroing in on anything. They're both extreme examples and perceptive ability of that degree is not rquired of NFL QBs, but you cant' be a total robot either. QBs like Cassell see and do only 1 thing at a time and whatever they're seeing, thinking, or doing is zeroed in on with tunnel vision. Rivers is the closest of the successful QBs to be that way but can also do things with his accuracy that Cassell can't.

And for Favre, and especially Romo, that "No look" pass lead to a lot of interceptions.

Romo cut down tremendously on that "No look" pass after the third game this season, and his interceptions went down, and overall performance, especially in December, improved.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6424725)

Im willing to bet that he makes a pronounced jump up in these rankings by this time next year after some of these gaping weaknesses are fixed and he progresses as qbs with his work ethic do.

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I am willing to put any of these three on the line against any of the "horsemen" to say that Cassel cuts that number in half and ends up at least 22nd in these rankings next year or better. This puts me at a huge disadvantage because it is dependent on Pioli filling the holes that are there to give the kid a chance at achieving this, but I am basing my thoughts on the fact that I fully believe that Pioli looked at this as a evaluation year and that he will fill a couple needed holes to help his investment succeed. So call me a homer for this all you want or claim I am calling for a miracle, but I honestly think it is ralistic to expect that type of improvement or better. The kid is not a total loss.

Who is game?

/hopes this doesn't backfire, but one has to have hope

Rep !

Damn...With all the beetchin' and moaning about Cassel's worthlessness and no one taking this bet...???

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Originally Posted by Earthling (Post 6426633)

Rep !

Damn...With all the beetchin' and moaning about Cassel's worthlessness and no one taking this bet...???

I think even the people pointing out Cassel's weaknesses expect his "numbers" to increase dramatically.

Charlie Weis is a smart enough OC not to ask him to do things he can't do.

So expect even more dumpoffs, WR screens and other assorted passes under 10 yards - which will inflate his stats, at least on the surface.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6426674)

And saying that he'll rank 22nd next year isn't exactly a bold prediction.

Chris ****ing Redman is #22 this year.

Cassel will be one of the worst starting QBs in the league! Who wants to bet?!!!??

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6426674)

I'd call that being smart and playing to a guys strengths. Cassel CANNOT throw the deep pass to save his life so if they can find ANYTHING he can do well, just do that A LOT.

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6426684)

And saying that he'll rank 22nd next year isn't exactly a bold prediction.

Chris ****ing Redman is #22 this year.

Cassel will be one of the worst starting QBs in the league! Who wants to bet?!!!??

Holy shit, I missed that.

ROFL

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6426691)

I'd call that being smart and playing to a guys strengths. Cassel CANNOT throw the deep pass to save his life so if they can find ANYTHING he can do well, just do that A LOT.

Well, it is smart on the surface. You never want to ask players to do things they can't do. Especially at the most important position on the field.

The problem is, you've just given the defense even less field to defend, all because your QB has severe limitations.

It's the type of offense that in today's NFL, will probably get you within a game of .500 on either side, and if you do sneak into the playoffs, a one-and-done.