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Titty Meat 04-12-2010 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6669335)
If he takes Bryant after all that right 53 shit I'll laugh my balls off.

Dude he signed Shaun Smith and Chris Chambers. That theory is already bogus.

Mecca 04-12-2010 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6669336)
It is important I agree, but, it still doesn't address the most important need on this defense, that is, the passrush.

There aren't pass rushers worth a top 5 pick.

RedThat 04-12-2010 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6669342)
There aren't pass rushers worth a top 5 pick.

Okay but I hope they find one somewhere in this draft because Berry or no Berry, I don't care who they throw back there if they have to give the quarterback all day to throw just like last year then all teams are going to do is find ways to pick us apart over and over and over again.

Bowser 04-12-2010 09:17 PM

Berry on the safety blitz jumps high and deflects the ball to himself, returning it for a pick six. Duh.

Mecca 04-12-2010 09:18 PM

Considering Vrabel just got resigned something tells me they aren't planning on drafting pass rushing OLB's, matter of fact..NE has never done that nor have they ever really had a big time sack guy. Take that for what it's worth.

Bowser 04-12-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6669352)
Considering Vrabel just got resigned something tells me they aren't planning on drafting pass rushing OLB's, matter of fact..NE has never done that nor have they ever really had a big time sack guy. Take that for what it's worth.

On the Vrabel subject....

I'm good with the signing IF, and only IF, Romeo has enough brainpower to figure out that Vrabel needs to play inside, and DJ needs to play outside. Vrabel isn't the 12 sack guy he was in New England, for crissake. Surely these professional coaches can figure out that you put the guy with better speed and athleticism outside in a 3-4, right?

warpaint* 04-12-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6669321)
Safety is an important position on defense. Do you think the Saints win the SB without someone like Darren Sharper?

It is relative. I can argue punter is an important job. What other player in one play can change field position as dramatically? But obviously there are many positions that are more important.

Eric Berry's talent is what makes this debatable. Guys like him don't come along every year.

I do not expect the Chiefs to take him. Not b/c I don't think they should. Quite the contrary. It's not the NE way.

notorious 04-12-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 6669359)
On the Vrabel subject....

I'm good with the signing IF, and only IF, Romeo has enough brainpower to figure out that Vrabel needs to play inside, and DJ needs to play outside. Vrabel isn't the 12 sack guy he was in New England, for crissake. Surely these professional coaches can figure out that you put the guy with better speed and athleticism outside in a 3-4, right?

Jesus, I would love to see DJ get more blitz opportunity.

Bowser 04-12-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 6669365)
Jesus, I would love to see DJ get more blitz opportunity.

Shit, all of us would. Hali on one side, and DJ on the other? They're not Neil and Derrick, but ****, they'd be better than anything we've had for a number of years.......

Mecca 04-12-2010 09:27 PM

Derrick Johnson does not have the size nor block shedding ability to beat a OT on a pass rush.

The Chiefs frankly still don't have personnel for this scheme.

RedThat 04-12-2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6669352)
Considering Vrabel just got resigned something tells me they aren't planning on drafting pass rushing OLB's, matter of fact..NE has never done that nor have they ever really had a big time sack guy. Take that for what it's worth.

They never really had elite passrushers, but they sure did get to the quarterback well as a team during their championship seasons.

Any possible way they can improve the passrush, be it, by adding one or by doing so as a team, whatever. They must improve in that area, I hope they're focusing there and not taking it w/ a grain of salt because it is atrocious, and if they don't improve there then I can't see this defense taking that next step forward.

But one thing I do know that is for certain, they need linebackers. Get many of them in here. They could use two new ILB's and a few OLBs. Just revamp the whole damn LBing corps.

notorious 04-12-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6669377)
Derrick Johnson does not have the size nor block shedding ability to beat a OT on a pass rush.

The Chiefs frankly still don't have personnel for this scheme.

I agree, but with the 3-4 confusion is supposed to get more sack ops over one-on-one battles.

DJ can close space quickly before whiffing on the QB when given the chance.

RedThat 04-12-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6669377)
Derrick Johnson does not have the size nor block shedding ability to beat a OT on a pass rush.

The Chiefs frankly still don't have personnel for this scheme.

Yeah, but, he does have the speed. Unfortunately for us we don't take advantage of it very often.

Mecca 04-12-2010 09:33 PM

Also Derrick Johnson spends most of his time on the bench just because.

RedThat 04-12-2010 09:33 PM

Because of the bone headed decisions made by the coach.


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