would he have needed 300 yds against every opponent as opposed to 175 yds or whatever for you guys to admit he's a solid player?

Talk all you want about him being undersized, but he's a unique player and I'm looking forward to you guys (happily) eating crow when he starts putting points on the board for you.

There isn't a single person who is a fan of one of the many teams that he single handedly demolished who would just go "meh, he's ok". He has a serious, serious talent. There's a reason he was rated so highly amongst nearly everyone who follows the draft. GAME FILM.

And again, if you guys aren't man enough to admit that he is obviously faster than a 4.6 or whatever you have him pegged with, then whatever. Just watch any of his vids on youtube and you'll see a guy running a 4.4, which is what he ran at pro-day. Guys that are considered to be among the fastest in the game don't run 4.6's.

No one is saying your boy sucks ok, some of us would have just rather had someone else at 36.

Obviously you haven't watched him enough because the majority of his yards didn't come from a Wild Cat. The "Wild Rebel" sucked 98% of the time. Most fans loathed it because it never worked.

We did the same thing with Dante.

Yep, this kid sucks.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=227119

i cant believe a guy that has caught like 40 passes is being praised as the next ****ing Percy Harvin or Wes Welker, guys who have been catching passes since they came out of their moms vaginas. It's an absolute disrespect to them as today's top tier NFL talent at what they do to compare this guy who has done nothing in terms of that position in the same vein as those guys.

Look I understand. I'm a freakishly nuts Saints fanatic and I'm pissed as hell that they drafted a CB and an OL in the 1st and 2nd instead of drafting on need (linebackers). However, if that CB we drafted out of FSU was a historically good ACC defensive back that happened to be undersized, then I would probably begrudingly accept it and hope he continues that historic success in the NFL. I likely wouldn't still be screaming about his size.

jesus ****

you're a fan of the player

i'm the fan of a team with needs and draft picks that need to be maximized for value in the context of a specific draft


i don't need to hear a fanboi spouting stats about a player i watched all season...yes he's shifty and great at the college level....so ****ing what?

that's not the issue....the issue is the use of the 36th pick for the Chiefs....

drafting a 45lb hb to convert to a wr with the the 36th pick of the draft when you have no NT or pass rushing OLB or franchise QB is dumb and the reason why this ass eating franchise has sucked forever....they never get their ****ing priorities straight...


kansas city fans think drafting a qb is 'risky'...so we can't do it, even though it is damn near a pre-requisite for winning a superbowl

but if you draft a 50lbs-sopping-wet half-back from a wildcat offense to be a WR in the NFL WITH THE 36TH PICK IN THE DRAFT....well HELL, True Fans love it because it isn't 'risky at all' and everyone knows that rb-turned-WR are the real keys to a superbowl and not QBs....

running a 3-4 with no NT or OLB isn't risky either, it seems....

You're bitching about Charles Brown? Charles Brown was a late 1st round value you get him at the end of 2, and you complain?

You got him after we got a midget backup CB, have some perspective.

That is completely untrue. The kid can run the route tree. McCluster had more catches and yards last season than Arrelious Benn, and had a better 2008 season in receptions and yards than Demaryius Thomas. All while carrying the ball over 100 times in the last two seasons.

Focus McCluster on the slot position, and he will be fun to watch.
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i'd love to see a breakdown of the routes he was running...

i'd bet my ass most of his catches were swing passes and screens

Arrelious Benn caught 70 balls the year before...this is not good.

And DeMaryius Thomas can't run a route tree either, the dfference is he has #1 WR upside.

This is amazing. You slam a guy for not being a route runner then toute another guy who you admit is not a route runner.

Hey I definitely won't defend the Arenas pick, that's for sure. Seemed a bit redundant after getting McCluster.

And I'm not really complaining too much about Brown. That's fine. But the Saints drafting a CB instead of the Linebackers that were available is a bit perplexing.

I suppose one difference in my team and yours is that I actually have faith in my management, so when they make picks that I don't like I'm generally going to try and give them the benefit of the doubt. I think Payton and Greg Williams know what they are doing....you guys don't have much faith in y'alls front office and I certainly understand why given your recent history.

Wow, there is an enormous amount of disinformation in this thread.

While they weren't *my* first choices, I'd be shocked if McCluster and Arenas weren't difference makers by the eighth game, if not immediately.

The Chiefs still have issues in the middle of the defense but there was absolutely no way they could address every need in one draft.

It's likely that the offense took a HUGE step forward today.