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ToxSocks 11-30-2010 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7213644)
How? Because those (NT and OLB) are extremely difficult to fill for a 34, with far more teams running this defense.

Can we get a complimentary WR (what happened to our HOF second rounder from '10? should there be another apology thread?) and a C? I should hope so.
That's why i said I doubt we get our NT. OLB isn't that difficult to fill. Not nearly as hard as NT.

I see no reason why we can't come away with a starter at WR and OLB in the first two rounds. Especially considering how deep this draft is suppose to be at WR.

DeezNutz 11-30-2010 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7213656)
I suppose but I didn't think that the Chiefs be able to acquire a back like Jones, a center like Weigman, guards like Lilja and Asamoah, a tight end like Moeaki and safeties like Berry & Lewis (not to mention Arenas & McCluster) all in one offseason, either.

Every one of those guys have been difference makers.
True. Although I believe Jones and Weigman could easily be replaced. Moeaki has been the real surprise for me. Lewis was a great late pick, too, it seems.

Jury still out on round 2, unfortunately. But even if these picks drink from the dick sock, ultimately, the '10 draft appears to be a very strong one.

OnTheWarpath15 11-30-2010 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7213637)
Dane is the voice of reason in this thread. I agree, if he does lay an egg in SD, it won't diminish what Cassel has done so far.

If Cassel fails at San Diego, the same usual suspects who have ripped him every chance they get will come out in droves.

Whereas, they typically make backhanded compliments when he plays well, or show up days later to offer their "support that he keeps playing well".

But the minute he ****s up again, they will be all over this board bitching. One day he's called the worst starting QB in the NFL, then a few weeks later people, the same people complaining, want him to perform like an elite QB.

It's comedy gold.
And what if he fails Sunday?

Or in STL?

You might find it funny, I don't.

Look around the league. 8 of the 12 division leaders have elite QB's.

It's a QB driven league, and will be for quite a while, I think.

He's 28 years old, and he's yet to prove he can win an important road game against a solid opponent. He's yet to show that if parts of the team are faltering, he can put the team on his back and win.

I don't see what the issue is in needing to see that happen at least once before we say the guy is a ****ing franchise QB.

ToxSocks 11-30-2010 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7213664)
I'm sipping the koolaid just a little.
Tastes good huh?

DeezNutz 11-30-2010 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 7213665)
That's why i said I doubt we get our NT. OLB isn't that difficult to fill. Not nearly as hard as NT.

I see no reason why we can't come away with a starter at WR and OLB in the first two rounds. Especially considering how deep this draft is suppose to be at WR.
I agree about WR, but I think we should temper our expectations for OLB if we're looking at round 2. Can it be better than the broke dick we have? Definitely.

And Hali needs to continue to be visible every single week.

Ming the Merciless 11-30-2010 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7213668)
And what if he fails Sunday?

Or in STL?

You might find it funny, I don't.

Look around the league. 8 of the 12 division leaders have elite QB's.

It's a QB driven league, and will be for quite a while, I think.

He's 28 years old, and he's yet to prove he can win an important road game against a solid opponent. He's yet to show that if parts of the team are faltering, he can put the team on his back and win.

I don't see what the issue is in needing to see that happen at least once before we say the guy is a ****ing franchise QB.
:LOL:


Wow I think he is crying IRL

Brock 11-30-2010 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 7213669)
Tastes good huh?
I'm prepared for it to end up giving me dysentery, though.

The Bad Guy 11-30-2010 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7213668)
And what if he fails Sunday?

Or in STL?

You might find it funny, I don't.

Look around the league. 8 of the 12 division leaders have elite QB's.

It's a QB driven league, and will be for quite a while, I think.

He's 28 years old, and he's yet to prove he can win an important road game against a solid opponent. He's yet to show that if parts of the team are faltering, he can put the team on his back and win.

I don't see what the issue is in needing to see that happen at least once before we say the guy is a ****ing franchise QB.
I'll never say he's a franchise QB. There are about 5 of them in the entire NFL and Cassel never will be that so if that's your expectation then I guess there will be a continued insane amount of bitching.

I do think he's turning into a really solid to very good QB right before our eyes and has made progress that no one on this board thought possible after Week 1.

Ming the Merciless 11-30-2010 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7213673)
I'm prepared for it to end up giving me dysentery, though.
Let's wash down some pepto with our kool aid, just to be safe.

ToxSocks 11-30-2010 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7213667)
True. Although I believe Jones and Weigman could easily be replaced. Moeaki has been the real surprise for me. Lewis was a great late pick, too, it seems.

Jury still out on round 2, unfortunately. But even if these picks drink from the dick sock, ultimately, the '10 draft appears to be a very strong one.
McCluster has proved that he's every bit as explosive as advertised. Arenas has made some key plays and filled a HUGE whole in ST that has been void since Dante left.

Im curious to see how they incorporate McCluster in the offense now that Bowe has emerged.

DeezNutz 11-30-2010 05:43 PM
The level of optimism for Cassel after two good weeks is staggeringly more impressive than the level of disdain for 1 1/2 seasons of mediocrity.

We'll see which is the "real" Cassel.

OnTheWarpath15 11-30-2010 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7213661)
So calling this team awful in the off-season now gives you free reign to continue to complain if they don't meet your new lofty expectations? The same ones that didn't exist 13 weeks ago?
There's not a person on this board that HONESTLY thought this team would be 7-4 right now, and you know it.

People say it so in the event it happens, they look like ****ing superfans.

If you want to be happy if they blow a 3 game lead and lose the division, be my guest.

I've seen that they are capable of more than I, or anyone else thought, and expect them to succeed.

Is holding a 3 game lead and winning the division really a "lofty" expectation?

Christ, half this board had them penciled into the playoffs a month ago when we were 5-2.

Hammock Parties 11-30-2010 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7213683)
The level of optimism for Cassel after two good weeks is staggeringly more impressive than the level of disdain for 1 1/2 seasons of mediocrity.
Just a dab'll do ya!

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ToxSocks 11-30-2010 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7213683)
The level of optimism for Cassel after two good weeks is staggeringly more impressive than the level of disdain for 1 1/2 seasons of mediocrity.

We'll see which is the "real" Cassel.
If Cassel is who I think he is right now, he should have another solid game against the Donks and struggle against the Chargers.

If that happens, how would you label him?

Ming the Merciless 11-30-2010 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7213686)
If you want to be happy if they blow a 3 game lead and lose the division, be my guest.
Isn't our lead only one game?


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