Pioli forced him to play Palko right?

Who was responsible for this miscarriage?

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If it's Pioli, then he should get the ax.

From what we hear, that one was all Haley.

He kind of did, by not doing a damn thing in 3 years to adjust the QB depth.

I think people are making way too much out of this QB conspiracy. His decision was to start Palko over Stanzi. Agree or disagree, there are legit reasons to make that decision. In terms of Orton, he decided not to rush forcing him onto the team without knowing the playbook or rushing him back from injury. Maybe a bit conservatively, but again there are reasons.

It's all conspiracy theory.

Thats all good for 2 games. But after we saw what Palko brought there was no reason for that to happen again.

Orton after being here two weeks would have been a better option.

Haley, starting Palko, more than likely cost us the AFCW division champ.

Like what?

STANZI WASN'T READY LOL????????

I don't agree with the decision to start Palko against Chicago. But Haley made the clear QB switch in the 2nd quarter to Orton before he got injured. After he got injured, who knows if Haley would have started Palko or Orton against Green Bay. I'm sure he would have.

I blame him for being overly conservative in handling that situation in that he waited for Orton to be put in a comfortable situation before putting him in. Maybe in handling Stanzi, but we have absolutely no idea where he is in development right now.

But that's different from saying he was doing it to spite the organization.

And no, I don't think that cost us the AFCW championship. Who knows if Orton's finger was at all ready to play against the Jets. And who knows how well Stanzi would have played.

[QUOTE=O.city;8274804]Thats all good for 2 games. But after we saw what Palko brought there was no reason for that to happen again.

Orton after being here two weeks would have been a better option.

Haley, starting Palko, more than likely cost us the AFCW division champ.[/QUOTE

Or just as simple as Bowe dropping the F-ing ball in the gosh darn end zone could be seen as costing the division also.

We have no ****ing clue how ready Stanzi is. Maybe he was being overly conservative. Or maybe he is very unprepared. There are good reasons to believe either story. Without knowing the answer, it's ridiculous to make accusations as if we know for sure.

For the record, I'm not a big fan of him from a playcalling standpoint. He was a lot more conservative than I thought he'd be. But coupled with a strong playcaller like Whisenhunt, it's a good match.

I still believe that matched up with the right front office, Haley has the upside to be a good head coach. I'm not backing off of that. I think he handled his relationship with Pioli like a little child, but I also believe that Pioli treated him like a child, so...

He had to be conservative. He was given the 2nd worst QB in the league in YPA.

Not defending Haley. Just not willing to say that he was THE problem here.

Because he wasn't.

Anyone remember how bad our qb was against the Steelers? No reason to trot that back out there.


I agree with htis, Haley was a problem but not the problem.

I will say, if Pioli can get a franchise qb, he'll have done a pretty good job, roster wise here.

Bull. Orton was clearly the best choice to start. Haley deserved to be fired. If Orton starts, we finish at least 8-8.

Pioli went out and spent an extra 3 million or so to get Orton for less than half a season. Pioli provided a better alternative to Palko, it was Haley who failed to utilize it.

It's possible.

Even Tom Brady was kept inactive his whole rookie year and Orton had a broken index finger on his throwing hand.

Orton had a broken index finger on his throwing hand.

Well Orton did have the broken finger becasue we didn't start him in Chicago, brought him in in the second quarter and ran a first play flea flicker.


So....