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Marty ball on the radar in Tampa? (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=254778)

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8290498)

Not in 1997 it wasn't. They had similar season but Grbac actually was the better of the two.

I'm talking about when Elvis went down with a broken collar bone.
True, Grbac was playing well but Gannon was like 6-2 and playing very well.
Grbac played poorly in the final game of the season vs the Saints.

And yes, that was the 97 season.

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8290509)

And yes, that was the 97 season.

I get the frustration with him. I just like the guy and think he's a good coach that deserves more than being known as one of the biggest coaching choke artists of all time.

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 8290515)

I get the frustration with him. I just like the guy and think he's a good coach that deserves more than being known as one of the biggest coaching choke artists of all time.

But he IS one of the biggest coaching choke artists of all time.

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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 8290009)

he also had 3 Other teams with Homefield Advantage -

KC '95 13-3
KC '97 13-3
SD '06 14-2

They all went one and done, so I'm not sure if this hurts or helps the argument.

Dude could sure as hell contend in the Regular Season though.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8290714)

But he IS one of the biggest coaching choke artists of all time.

I know people dont traditionally think of it this way, but can we look at it a little different:

When a team has Home Field advantage or a bye, can we consider that a playoff win, since they already made the 2nd round of the playoffs?

See, that doesnt make it so bad now does it? : )

all shit aside .. Marty can pick talent .. and can coach it .. too bad he had a Grsuck luv affair ......

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 8290342)

If he had gone right on to Washington and won it, or pulled it off in SD, I'd probably agree with you. As it is, I just feel bad for the guy a little. Sucks to be famous for being a failure, despite obvious skill. Posnanski talked about a time when, after one of the Chiefs playoff meltdowns, he asked the guys in the press room to turn off their recorders. Poz admitted he was paraphrasing, but he said Marty essentially asked, "What am I doing wrong?" Sorry, I just feel bad for him.

Add to that how much the guy cared for his players and the Chiefs franchise. Hell, I don't know if I've EVER seen a grown man cry as hard and as openly as Marty did at DT's HoF induction.

The guy's a great coach who can't get over the hump. I don't care who it's with, I'd love to see him get there.

This is why I've always liked Marty.

100% real.

And I can't EVER remember thinking "Wow, dick move, Marty."

One of the nicest guys in pro football ever, and would have won a SB if AJ Smith wasn't a reerun. At the very least he would have gotten 3 DIFFERENT teams to AFC Championship games, and that's a remarkable feat.