If the Chiefs don't land RG3 or Peyton Manning, I will have a lot more time on my hands the next 4-5 years.

RG3 is just flat out exciting. Even if we didn't win a Super Bowl with him in the next five years, it sure would be fun to watch him play and develop.

I'm simply at the point where I would like SOMETHING exciting to happen with this franchise.

i would gladly give up our 2009 draft entirely.

Well, if we are gonna do this.

How about Orakpo and Mallett (who went 4 picks later, or Demarco Murray who went at the pick after Houston)

Houston was a great pick, two years later.

Doesnt mean that Raji is better than Jackson RIGHT NOW.

He isn't and every non biased advanced stats site grades Jackson higher.

It is entirely possible that Jackson redeems Pioli for that pick at 3 if he continues to improve.

I don't have a problem trading a draft away. But we are essentially trading two drafts away. That's just reckless. Again, if you whiff on a first round QB, that's fine. If you whiff on a first round QB you traded 2 rounds away for, you essentially set your team back 5-6 years.

Being exciting has little to do with this... Michael Vick has been pimped as exciting for ten years and he is never going to win anything.

Your success as a QB in the NFL who gives your team a shot at winning the super bowl depends on your ability to be a pocket passer and not much else.

You set your team back only if you are too stupid to adjust your personel strategies to the decisions you make.

I wanted Michael Vick coming out of Leavenworth. More fun than watching Cassel.

BINGO !!!:thumb:

Amen Fat man:thumb:

I'm talking about if RGIII is anything less than a franchise QB.

When you make that kind of a bold trade, you HAVE to start him for 3-4 years. You have no choice. More importantly, you are giving away two drafts. Which means that the guys you formerly had for cheap like Albert, Moeaki, Houston, etc.... those guys are going to start to get paid and you wont' be able to afford all of them.

We'd have a 2-3 year window. After that, we better hope RGIII is Peyton Manning good (even Matt Ryan good wont' be good enough to carry a team built purely through free agency).

And this franchise has had a lot of excitement. Hasn't it? I don't know if anybody can argue that. We've seen this franchise field excellent defenses during the DT years. We've seen this franchise field great offenses during the Vermeil era. Can we call that excitement? I know I can. Don't get me wrong, there has been a lot of sh*tiness along the way as well ala Herm era. The Chiefs have given the fans a mix of a little bit of everything except a bowl.

What we've really seen are a lot of one dimensional teams. It either the team is good on offense or defense and hardly ever both. I want to see an actual team for once that can win it all. The excitement stage hasn't reached to the pinnacle as of yet till they can actually build a well balanced team for once.

Im with superbowl or nothing. I would like excitement to reach its ultimate peak and not just enough to lead to a heartbreak. We've experienced to many of those. It'd be nice to see a change. Never lose out on the big picture man because at the end of the day the big picture is the reason you, I and others watch this game.

Thats all I gotta say.

The Giants traded 2 1st round picks(Philip Rivers, '05 pick), a third rounder, and a 5th rounder. HOW ON EARTH IS THAT AN ENTIRE DRAFT?! Or even TWO for that matter?

So if you trade our first this year, a tagged Carr(who we're losing anyway), and a2nd or 3rd and a 4th or 5th. Then, receive one or two compensatory picks(from Orton and Shaun Smith), how in the hell is that TWO FULL DRAFTS?

Hell, trade our first, Carr, a 3rd and 5th this year and a 3rd next year and we still make out.

RG3, is worth it. Why don't you ask the Giants if Manning wasn't worth the risk.

Two problems with this post.

1. Fewer QB hungry teams that year than this year

2. NYG traded essentially the #4 pick for the #1 pick. Not #11 for #2.

I don't think that is enough to get him.