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Gadzooks 07-06-2012 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8721892)
No. His TEAM beat the Packers and the Patriots. He didn't "stomp" any QBs except for Ryan and Smith in the playoffs. Still commendable and awesome that he does this all on the road. But no, he's not a better QB than Rodgers or Brady. #3 is right about where he belongs I'd say
At least someone gets it...

BigMeatballDave 07-06-2012 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721919)
At least someone gets it...
Dumbass.

SNR put him at #3.

You said he was overrated at 4.

BigMeatballDave 07-06-2012 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721913)
I'm not comparing Eli to Dilfer, however there are a large group on this board that over rate him because of the rings. They don't consider the variables that have contributed to his success.
Next off-season, barring the Giants winning another SB, his ranking will go down to where it should be.
If you were to look at some of the guys on this list and had a choice of any of the players from Eli to #10, to replace Cassel, I doubt you'd pick Eli unless you had your head up your ass.
You can't overrate a QB who chucks it 4000+ yards with a shitty running game.

Use your ****ing head, dude.

Gadzooks 07-06-2012 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8721943)
You can't overrate a QB who chucks it 4000+ yards with a shitty running game.

Use your ****ing head, dude.
Wow Dave, you're not a very sociable person.
Teams with shitty running games tend to throw the ball more.
Rivers has 4 seasons in a row with 4000+ yds so I guess he's better than Eli that only has 3. Logic eludes you and you like shiny things that's why Eli appeals to you.
I'm not saying Eli's not in the top ten but considering many variables, I think 4 is too high for him.

Rausch 07-06-2012 10:42 AM
If you want to win THIS YEAR picking anyone other than Brady is purely for the sake of stirring the $3it...

highBOLTage 07-06-2012 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 8721262)
I'm not a Giants apologist but that defense really stepped it up in the playoffs. Good teams play their best football in the playoffs and while this Giants team had very average regular season numbers, they played big when it mattered the most.

Love the fact they beat the pats again. The pats can eat it.
Yep, they came to play in the playoffs. The run game became decent in the playoffs and the defense was very good. Pretty hard to call a team that holds the Pats and Packers to half their averages and shuts out the Falcons the "league's worst defense." Not quite as extreme as the dreadful 2006 Colts defense carrying Peyton to the title, but the Giants D played very well.

Brock 07-06-2012 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721913)
I'm not comparing Eli to Dilfer, however there are a large group on this board that over rate him because of the rings. They don't consider the variables that have contributed to his success.
Next off-season, barring the Giants winning another SB, his ranking will go down to where it should be.
If you were to look at some of the guys on this list and had a choice of any of the players from Eli to #10, to replace Cassel, I doubt you'd pick Eli unless you had your head up your ass.
Eli isn't super talented, but he comes up big when he has to, unlike Phyllis Rivers.

Chiefnj2 07-06-2012 11:00 AM
65% completion percentage, 9 TDs to 1 INT and averaged over 300 yards per game in the postseason and people say Eli wasn't a top, if not THE top, QB last year?

Gadzooks 07-06-2012 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8721989)
Eli isn't super talented, but he comes up big when he has to, unlike Phyllis Rivers.
So does Tebow. Where is he on the list?
Sure,Tebow's not as talented, but if that's your main criteria shouldn't he be in at least the top ten?

Dayze 07-06-2012 11:22 AM
I'd love to see Eli with this team; to see what he could do.
I haven't looked (so don't flame me too hard....(that's what she said)), but how do the Chiefs compare to the Giants at the skill positions?

durtyrute 07-06-2012 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 8721186)
Cassel has the ability to be about the 20th best.

But as of now.....There are maybe a couple/few current starters in the NFL that are worse than Cassel. So I in a lot of ways agree w/ this ranking.
what he said

Skyy God 07-06-2012 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 8721368)
How sad does it make you to realize that the Chiefs could have drafted the first three guys on that list?
Or signed Brees.

/puts gun in mouth, pulls trigger

BigMeatballDave 07-06-2012 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8722021)
So does Tebow. Where is he on the list?
Sure,Tebow's not as talented, but if that's your main criteria shouldn't he be in at least the top ten?
:facepalm:

WhiteWhale 07-06-2012 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721913)
I'm not comparing Eli to Dilfer, however there are a large group on this board that over rate him because of the rings. They don't consider the variables that have contributed to his success.
Next off-season, barring the Giants winning another SB, his ranking will go down to where it should be.
If you were to look at some of the guys on this list and had a choice of any of the players from Eli to #10, to replace Cassel, I doubt you'd pick Eli unless you had your head up your ass.
Well, yeah, you were comparing them.

I'm not saying he's 'the best' or anything, because I hate qualifying players like that. Eli is a unique QB. He plays tough and NEVER gives up on plays (which bites him sometimes) and he's played behind a terrible OL for pretty much his entire career.

Put most QB's behind that OL and they''ll shrink. Eli manned up against the 49ers in spite of being knocked on his ass damn near every time he dropped back. How many Qb's would have gotten timid after three quarters of that? Most of them.

So is he top 4? I don't care. I'd be happy as a pig in shit if our QB played like that. We'd be a contender.

Gadzooks 07-06-2012 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8722230)
:facepalm:
Subtlety is not your forte so I understand how you wouldn't be able to see my point.
I imagine that you have deep set eyes and a large forehead that you use to break nuts.


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