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007 07-11-2012 07:16 PM

don't disagree with either of those opinions.

Bugeater 07-11-2012 07:55 PM

I know that commercials are necessary evils, but they get a little ridiculous during sporting events sometimes.

Dr. Johnny Fever 07-11-2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8733608)
I know that commercials are necessary evils, but they get a little ridiculous during sporting events sometimes.

You know how much it costs for rights to sporting events? Well that's why they charge so much for advertising.

chasedude 07-11-2012 08:00 PM

That's what that lovely mute button is for. I have a feeling it's gonna be the first button to fail on me because I use it ALOT!

Bugeater 07-11-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 8733612)
You know how much it costs for rights to sporting events? Well that's why they charge so much for advertising.

I wasn't complaining about how much they charge for the advertising.

BigMeatballDave 07-11-2012 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8733482)
This is how spoiled we've gotten. Newspapers are bleeding money because people like us copy links because we feel entitled to. Now we get upset because a tv station wants to advertise so they can actually make money off their shows.

Cable has always been expensive. With more options like satellite dishes and the Internet they have to try harder to make money.

It's amazing that we think a subscriber fee entitles us to free programming. If you want that experience, then pay a monthly fee for hbo. People are confusing subscriber fees with fee to keep time Warner in business. Advertising may be inconvenient.. But it is the only way networks can afford to provide you with quality programming. If you cut advertising, and hope you enjoy pbs.

Hey, I didn't invent the DVR.

Dr. Johnny Fever 07-11-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8733622)
I wasn't complaining about how much they charge for the advertising.

Oh I understand that. My point is that the plethora of ads have to be sold and often at high dollar prices to pay for the rights... and of course all the other expenses. You're right when you said commercials are a necessary evil. Without them no one would see the game.

Bugeater 07-11-2012 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 8733629)
Oh I understand that. My point is that the plethora of ads have to be sold and often at high dollar prices to pay for the rights... and of course all the other expenses. You're right when you said commercials are a necessary evil. Without them no one would see the game.

Bullshit. If the networks are having that much trouble making a profit off of NFL telecasts, they shouldn't be paying such exorbitant prices for the rights. They're the ones setting the market price by trying to outbid each other.

Dr. Johnny Fever 07-11-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8733641)
Bullshit. If the networks are having that much trouble making a profit off of NFL telecasts, they shouldn't be paying such exorbitant prices for the rights. They're the ones setting the market price by trying to outbid each other.

Supply and demand. High bidder always wins and then recoup their costs through advertising. The NFL could set a price and then sell to the first network to buy but do they do that? Hell no. Tell me where the greed is.

In radio we have prices for programs that are set. The first person to accept the deal gets the spot. Pro sports doesn't work that way. But broadcasters are "greedy" for recouping their costs...

Bearcat 07-11-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8733482)
This is how spoiled we've gotten. Newspapers are bleeding money because people like us copy links because we feel entitled to. Now we get upset because a tv station wants to advertise so they can actually make money off their shows.

Cable has always been expensive. With more options like satellite dishes and the Internet they have to try harder to make money.

It's amazing that we think a subscriber fee entitles us to free programming. If you want that experience, then pay a monthly fee for hbo. People are confusing subscriber fees with fee to keep time Warner in business. Advertising may be inconvenient.. But it is the only way networks can afford to provide you with quality programming. If you cut advertising, and hope you enjoy pbs.

Boo-****ing-hoo... better raise rates, they only made five hundred million dollars this quarter, and what will the poor stockholders think about the 11% drop?!??!

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Time Warner reported a profit of $583 million for the quarter ending March 31, compared with $653 million for the same period in 2011, an 11% drop. Revenue was up 4% to $7 billion.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/ente...-earnings.html

...and like Bugeater said, CBS buys the rights to the NFL or March Madness or whatever for eleventy billion dollars, then drown us in ads to help pay for it.

Bugeater 07-11-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 8733650)
Supply and demand. High bidder always wins and then recoup their costs through advertising. The NFL could set a price and then sell to the first network to buy but do they do that? Hell no. Tell me where the greed is.

In radio we have prices for programs that are set. The first person to accept the deal gets the spot. Pro sports doesn't work that way. But broadcasters are "greedy" for recouping their costs...

I never used the word "greedy". My point is the networks are setting the market price, so I don't want to hear about how hard it is to recoup costs. If it's that unprofitable, don't ****ing bid on it.

Dr. Johnny Fever 07-11-2012 08:33 PM

Heh ok guys. The networks are evil. Shit everyone is in business to make money but when broadcasters do it the public gets their pantys in a bunch because they get inconvenienced for 2-4 minutes while nothing is going on in the game. ****ing broadcast companys.

Dr. Johnny Fever 07-11-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8733656)
...and like Bugeater said, CBS buys the rights to the NFL or March Madness or whatever for eleventy billion dollars, then drown us in ads to help pay for it.

You're welcome. You can listen to the games on local radio instead once all this thievery stops.

Bugeater 07-11-2012 08:35 PM

Half the time the reason nothing is going on the game is because they're waiting for the network to come back from commercial breaks.

Bearcat 07-11-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 8733668)
Heh ok guys. The networks are evil. Shit everyone is in business to make money but when broadcasters do it the public gets their pantys in a bunch because they get inconvenienced for 2-4 minutes while nothing is going on in the game. ****ing broadcast companys.

No, it's all ridiculous when you think about how much money is swapped between all of the layers, yet I'm sitting here without freakin' ABC because TWC is in a squabble over probably a dollar increase (while my bill has gone up $10/month over the past 3 months).

The music industry eventually changed for the better, so I hope the same happens one day with cable... I love all the choices and for the most part think it's worth the money, but it's still a pretty terrible system.


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