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FloridaMan88 12-02-2012 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bobinkc (Post 9170176)
Here is what I am afraid of.....there is a lot of sympathy for Pioli and Crennel....the Chiefs win a couple of games down the stretch....Clark is a pussy and can't man up and fire them....what a nightmare.

I just hope that everyone doesn't lose track of what an awful job they are doing and have done.

This is a legit worry, especially since Fat Scott will use the tragedy as an opportunity to save his job.

Already some in the media are starting the "Pioli is a sympathetic character and those evil fans who wear black to games and fly banners calling for his firing should back off".

lcarus 12-02-2012 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by stevenidol (Post 9169979)
Love the internet tough guys.

I'm not a tough guy in real life or the internet asshole. All I'm saying is the guy murdered a woman and then himself. That's kind of an assholey thing to do. I would get over it if I saw him shoot himself. Don't see how that makes me an "internet tough guy". Also when people say shit like "internet tough guys are really tough behind their keyboards. They probably aren't shit in real life", that's kind of being an internet tough guy.

DaneMcCloud 12-02-2012 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 9170248)
What in the **** are you even babbling about?

Every post in this thread, except for the ones posted by you incredibly tough Internet Superheroes, is expressing sympathy for the people Belcher traumatized by his actions, not expressing sympathy for Belcher.

Maybe you need to get checked for head trauma.


No one has posted today that Belcher may have been suffering from head trauma.

Right.

Internet Superhero? WTF?

mcan 12-02-2012 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9170249)
Use the quote function, Dude....

... It was a crime of passion. Whether or not it was premeditated hasn't been determined and the public may never know the truth.


Domestic murder suicides aren't usually premeditated. Possible, but not nearly as likely as a crime of passion.

Premeditated murder suicides are usually of the V-Tech/Columbine ilk.

DaneMcCloud 12-02-2012 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mcan (Post 9170273)
Domestic murder suicides aren't usually premeditated. Possible, but not nearly as likely as a crime of passion.

Premeditated murder suicides are usually of the V-Tech/Columbine ilk.

As I mentioned earlier, it's yet to be determined whether it was premeditated or not.

For all we know, he could have purchased or borrowed the gun between the time his girlfriend came home from the concert and the time of the murder.

Of course, that's pure speculation but at this point, nothing has been released publicly as to motive.

splatbass 12-02-2012 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9170251)
This is a legit worry, especially since Fat Scott will use the tragedy as an opportunity to save his job.

Already some in the media are starting the "Pioli is a sympathetic character and those evil fans who wear black to games and fly banners calling for his firing should back off".

They SHOULD back off this week. Out of respect for the victims and the other players. This has nothing to do with Pioli.

lcarus 12-02-2012 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9170267)
No one has posted today that Belcher may have been suffering from head trauma.

Right.

Internet Superhero? WTF?

Yeah, apparently we're internet badasses for saying Belcher is a piece of shit.

mcan 12-02-2012 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9170251)
This is a legit worry, especially since Fat Scott will use the tragedy as an opportunity to save his job.

Already some in the media are starting the "Pioli is a sympathetic character and those evil fans who wear black to games and fly banners calling for his firing should back off".


Okay, think about what you're implying: If Scott Pioli handles this situation well, then he's a dick for "trying to save his job." If he handles this situation poorly, then he's not doing his job.... It's lose/lose. The truth is, he probably knows he's going to get fired at the end of the year and after what he saw yesterday, he's probably glad he won't have to go in that building too many more times. In the meantime, he'll continue to try and do his job as best as he can. Just like everybody else in the organization whether they're about to fired or not.

And as for the media encouraging fans to chill out with the SOC stuff, they're right. Everybody agrees, and all of that stuff is cancelled. Not because the media told the fans not to. It's because it's SELF EVIDENTLY in bad taste right now. The media having that opinion doesn't make them Pioli apologists, it makes them... Not idiots.

Phobia 12-02-2012 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9170284)
They SHOULD back off this week. Out of respect for the victims and the other players. This has nothing to do with Pioli.

Yeah - we got that one all worked out by ourselves about 15 hours ago and have already released a statement and a press release.

mcan 12-02-2012 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9170277)
As I mentioned earlier, it's yet to be determined whether it was premeditated or not.

For all we know, he could have purchased or borrowed the gun between the time his girlfriend came home from the concert and the time of the murder.

Of course, that's pure speculation but at this point, nothing has been released publicly as to motive.

That would certainly make the "tabloid" aspect of this whole situation more palpable, if he went out to GET a gun. Chilling thought. Either way though, the victim is just as dead. And since the assailant isn't going to have a day in court or a defense, premeditated or not, it really doesn't matter. The act is done. Time for healing.

lcarus 12-02-2012 01:46 AM

I don't see how premeditated matters. Whether he got angry, went to buy a gun and then the next day blew several holes through his girlfriend and killed her, or got angry, had a gun in his back pocket and the next second blew several holes through his girlfriend and killed her, the only thing that matters is that he intended to murder when he got angry, used a gun to blow several holes through his girlfriend and killed her.

splatbass 12-02-2012 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9170299)
Yeah - we got that one all worked out by ourselves about 15 hours ago and have already released a statement and a press release.

I know, but the guy I was replying to doesn't seem to get it.

Phobia 12-02-2012 01:51 AM

Premeditated matters for people who choose what kind of charges to file and which sentences to seek. I'm no lawyer but I'm nearly certain Belcher will not be facing charges in this lifetime.

DaneMcCloud 12-02-2012 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9170325)
I don't see how premeditated matters.

In the end, you're correct: It doesn't matter.

Two people are dead and countless lives have been negatively affected.

But with that said, if it were to be determined that it was premeditated, it would put to rest any speculation these actions were the result of head trauma.

lcarus 12-02-2012 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9170335)
Premeditated matters for people who choose what kind of charges to file and which sentences to seek. I'm no lawyer but I'm nearly certain Belcher will not be facing charges in this lifetime.

Yeah I understand how premeditated matters when it comes to the law, but in my opinion sometimes it shouldn't. And yeah, lol, in Belchers case it doesn't matter.


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