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Saccopoo 12-23-2012 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9234344)
the funny thing is...

8 years ago (or whatever) Tom Brady was SOOOOOOOOOO much better than Peyton Manning because Peyton Manning was surrounded by all of these GREAT weapons and his front office showered him with great pick after great pick after great pick.

This is no exaggeration. People like Mecca used to spew this stuff all of the time during my yearly Peyton Manning/Tom Brady debates. Seriously. It was..."Tom Brady has no weapons but Peyton Manning has Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne!"

Every. Single. Year.

Now?

Now we are rumored to get Polian and Polian was shitty and stumbled into Peyton and Peyton masked all of his poor front office decisions.

Interesting fan base we have.

It's not that Polian is shitty. I think he's pretty decent. It's that he's 69 and is going to try and package a GM deal to get his boy in here as well. I'm sick and tired of the nepotism thing. You are going to get Polian in here for a year, maybe two and he then hands it over to his kid. Screw that.

It's why Kyle "the Mouse" Shannahan can suck a bag of dicks as a potential head coach.

Skyy God 12-23-2012 12:36 PM

Lulz

Ace Gunner 12-23-2012 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9234344)
the funny thing is...

8 years ago (or whatever) Tom Brady was SOOOOOOOOOO much better than Peyton Manning because Peyton Manning was surrounded by all of these GREAT weapons and his front office showered him with great pick after great pick after great pick.

This is no exaggeration. People like Mecca used to spew this stuff all of the time during my yearly Peyton Manning/Tom Brady debates. Seriously. It was..."Tom Brady has no weapons but Peyton Manning has Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne!"

Every. Single. Year.

Now?

Now we are rumored to get Polian and Polian was shitty and stumbled into Peyton and Peyton masked all of his poor front office decisions.

Interesting fan base we have.

:D

Ace Gunner 12-23-2012 12:44 PM

one thing's for sure if polian were to take over in KC -- he's going to draft a QB

RealSNR 12-23-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9234567)
I don't know man.
It is a little early to say much about the 2012 draft but Wilson has had a very mediocre season when Bradshaw and co. missed a lot of time.
Amukamara can't seem to stay healthy. The rest of 2011 is not impressive.
Pierre-Paul is good and Joseph has been ok but he has stomped a player for retaliating because Joseph was trying to pull him off the pile. The rest of 2010 is meh.
Hakeem Nicks is ok but is inconsistent at best and is dinged up easily. The rest of 2009 is pretty meh.
Kenny Philips and Terrell Thomas are ok but not great shut down anything.
There is a lot of mediocrity through all of those drafts.

Now we're just getting picky on a few of these players. The Giants have been re-stocking on fresh new talent every season seemingly. Draft or free agency.

Pioli has done neither, and doesn't respect the QB position. He's also a psychotic sociopathic dumbass.

If we hired Ross, got a halfway decent coach, and drafted Geno, this team would be going places. That's all it takes.

PhillyChiefFan 12-23-2012 12:47 PM

Based off the Chiefs record alone, Pioli should be listed

Ace Gunner 12-23-2012 12:48 PM

If the Chiefs hire Ross, he's going to bring in another HC from the Parcells coaching tree.

PhillyChiefFan 12-23-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9234722)
Now we're just getting picky on a few of these players. The Giants have been re-stocking on fresh new talent every season seemingly. Draft or free agency.

Pioli has done neither, and doesn't respect the QB position. He's also a psychotic sociopathic dumbass.

If we hired Ross, got a halfway decent coach, and drafted Geno, this team would be going places. That's all it takes.

:grovel:

Saccopoo 12-23-2012 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9234567)
I don't know man.
It is a little early to say much about the 2012 draft but Wilson has had a very mediocre season when Bradshaw and co. missed a lot of time.
Amukamara can't seem to stay healthy. The rest of 2011 is not impressive.
Pierre-Paul is good and Joseph has been ok but he has stomped a player for retaliating because Joseph was trying to pull him off the pile. The rest of 2010 is meh.
Hakeem Nicks is ok but is inconsistent at best and is dinged up easily. The rest of 2009 is pretty meh.
Kenny Philips and Terrell Thomas are ok but not great shut down anything.
There is a lot of mediocrity through all of those drafts.

There's mediocrity in most teams drafts.

The thing I like about him is he's not afraid to pull the trigger on a huge ceiling prospect like JPP and that he's managed to pull in some guys who have contributed - substantially more than what we've seen here under Pioli.

Add to it that the guy is smart (two Ivy league degrees), isn't a son of some guy from the '70's NFL and has intermed/done his time under solid, successful team oriented atmospheres.

Also, he was the Eagles Director of College Scouting back in 2000 at only 27 years old (youngest director of college scouting in the NFL) until 2004.

In between his Eagles and Giants gigs, he was national college scout for the Bills.

He played the game in college, where he still owns numerous receiving records at Princeton. (Offensive minded guy is a plus in my book in this day and age.)

The guy has drive and vision and experience. And he's only 39.

I think he's a pretty solid GM canidate all the way around.

And having the first pick in the draft is a nice little carrot to dangle in front of a prospective GM, especially when it's a QB like Geno Smith who has a ton of potential to be a high level NFL signal caller for a long time.

htismaqe 12-23-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan (Post 9234735)
Based off the Chiefs record alone, Pioli should be listed

Yippee!

Saccopoo 12-23-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9234742)
If the Chiefs hire Ross, he's going to bring in another HC from the Parcells coaching tree.

I doubt it.

He's been with the Giants since 2004. It's not like he's married to the ****ing guys daughter or something.

milkman 12-23-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9234798)
There's mediocrity in most teams drafts.

The thing I like about him is he's not afraid to pull the trigger on a huge ceiling prospect like JPP and that he's managed to pull in some guys who have contributed - substantially more than what we've seen here under Pioli.

Add to it that the guy is smart (two Ivy league degrees), isn't a son of some guy from the '70's NFL and has intermed/done his time under solid, successful team oriented atmospheres.

Also, he was the Eagles Director of College Scouting back in 2000 at only 27 years old (youngest director of college scouting in the NFL) until 2004.

In between his Eagles and Giants gigs, he was national college scout for the Bills.

He played the game in college, where he still owns numerous receiving records at Princeton. (Offensive minded guy is a plus in my book in this day and age.)

The guy has drive and vision and experience. And he's only 39.

I think he's a pretty solid GM canidate all the way around.

And having the first pick in the draft is a nice little carrot to dangle in front of a prospective GM, especially when it's a QB like Geno Smith who has a ton of potential to be a high level NFL signal caller for a long time.

There's also the fact that once Clark Hunt hires the GM he completely turns over the football operations.

There really isn't a better situation for a GM in the league.

ToxSocks 12-23-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9234272)
Polian has succeeded with numerous franchises and with perhaps six GM jobs opening up, this could be a year where several former executives get back in the game.


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/ja...nfora/21445566

OHEMGEE

We are about to witness the return of Carl Peterson.

dundundun

Spott 12-23-2012 01:21 PM

If Pioli is still here next year, I'm finding another team.

Ace Gunner 12-23-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9234813)
I doubt it.

He's been with the Giants since 2004. It's not like he's married to the ****ing guys daughter or something.

Tom Coughlin & staff are all Parcells tree. It's NYG football. That is what Ross knows.


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